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Re: Nick Pope

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:08 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:51 am
Muric essentially gives us 11 ball playing outfield players against everyone else only having 10

Its a huge advantage and its absolutely key to how we play, and why we've been so successful this season
Would be handy to have a keeper though! We may as well play another holding midfielder!

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:10 am

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:08 am
Would be handy to have a keeper though! We may as well play another holding midfielder!
How about if you have someone who is 6 foot 5, can pass like an holding midfielder but keep goal like a keeper?

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:15 am

Casper wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:34 pm
Pickford is a better keeper than Pope , I know it’s hard to accept for many on here .
Not this season he isn't.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Stan Tastic » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:18 am

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:08 am
Would be handy to have a keeper though! We may as well play another holding midfielder!
Only Sheffield United have conceded less goals.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:18 am

I think it's safe to say that with the way Muric plays for us, and with the way Pope plays for Newcastle then opinion will be firmly divided as to the way football should be played out from the back along with the relative merits/weaknesses of both.

That will never change until either keeper leaves. :)

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:18 am

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:08 am
Would be handy to have a keeper though! We may as well play another holding midfielder!
:D :D

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:23 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:07 am
£10 million may have been a steal for Pope but £25 million for Wood goes a long way to redressing the balance.
Good point.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Fretters » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:25 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:56 am
If Kompany dropped Pope for Muric he would have got lynched.
This is my point, really. As incredible as Pope is, he wouldn't fit the system as well, so we had to sell as VK couldn't have dropped him.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:28 am

Fretters wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:25 am
This is my point, really. As incredible as Pope is, he wouldn't fit the system as well, so we had to sell as VK couldn't have dropped him.
I would rather have Pope in the Prem!!!

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:30 am

Stan Tastic wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:18 am
Only Sheffield United have conceded less goals.
That's because we have 70+% of the possession. Whenever there is a chance at our end, most end up in the net. Muric is as weak a keeper as there is. Superb footwork for passing. Gets dominated by the opposition, despite being 9 foot 8.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:31 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:10 am
How about if you have someone who is 6 foot 5, can pass like an holding midfielder but keep goal like a keeper?
That would be great. Is Alysson available?

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:31 am

There are times when you think someone has no idea what they are talking about.

Just when you may have any doubt they have no idea at all the post again to prove it
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Re: Nick Pope

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:35 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:31 am
There are times when you think someone has no idea what they are talking about.

Just when you may have any doubt they have no idea at all the post again to prove it
Yes, they open their mouth and remove all doubt.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:59 am

Short arms will still get picked by Southgate before Pope even when he's playing for Everton in the Championship next season
Pope must be in the top five of keepers in the World,and I mean goalkeepers not those that get plaudits because they can pass a ball about at the back....

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:29 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:30 am
That's because we have 70+% of the possession. Whenever there is a chance at our end, most end up in the net. Muric is as weak a keeper as there is. Superb footwork for passing. Gets dominated by the opposition, despite being 9 foot 8.
What do you think is a crucial element to having 70+% possession? Who do you think serves a pivotal role in that, especially when closing games out? I have faith you'll get there eventually.

Also, I thought we'd lost this nonsense about him not being able to make a save. He's made some very commendable ones this season. Anyway, I feel this is wasted time.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:31 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:29 pm
What do you think is a crucial element to having 70+% possession? Who do you think serves a pivotal role in that, especially when closing games out? I have faith you'll get there eventually.

Also, I thought we'd lost this nonsense about him not being able to make a save. He's made some very commendable ones this season. Anyway, I feel this is wasted time.
You are 100% wasting your time

Telling boomers that they are wrong despite all the evidence being right in front of them is a complete waste of time

Trust me on this! ;)

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Rowls » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:34 pm

It gets more and more preposterous if Pickford keeps his England place.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by scouseclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:36 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:15 am
Not this season he isn't.
...or the previous 4.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Rowls » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:45 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:31 pm
You are 100% wasting your time

Telling boomers that they are wrong despite all the evidence being right in front of them is a complete waste of time

Trust me on this! ;)
One for you, Lancaster ;)

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:47 pm

I was so very tempted to reply with "Ok Boomer" as well

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Rowls » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:49 pm

OK Boomer

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:50 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:30 am
[quote="Stan Tastic" post_id=2005567 time=<a href="tel:1674645486">1674645486</a> user_id=321]
Only Sheffield United have conceded less goals.
That's because we have 70+% of the possession. Whenever there is a chance at our end, most end up in the net. Muric is as weak a keeper as there is. Superb footwork for passing. Gets dominated by the opposition, despite being 9 foot 8.
[/quote]

I’m glad you’re on your own with this one 😂

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:00 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:49 pm
OK Boomer
My kids try this, but I'm squarely "Generation X" (I think!)
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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Stan Tastic » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:13 pm

I'm defending Muric and I'm a 'boomer'. It gets annoying when people assume all people of a certain age-group are of the same opinion. Especially when those opinions are really stupid.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:40 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:13 pm
I'm defending Muric and I'm a 'boomer'. It gets annoying when people assume all people of a certain age-group are of the same opinion. Especially when those opinions are really stupid.
Apologies Stan, it was meant as a gag and not to be taken seriously

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:00 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:00 pm
My kids try this, but I'm squarely "Generation X" (I think!)
OK Zoomer ;)

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Rowls » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:00 pm
My kids try this, but I'm squarely "Generation X" (I think!)
Hahah lol.

I'd have guessed your age as between 45-50. You might've told me before. I think there's half a generation between us.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:14 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:09 pm
Hahah lol.

I'd have guessed your age as between 45-50. You might've told me before. I think there's half a generation between us.
No longer do I fit into that age group sadly

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by martin_p » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:17 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:00 pm
My kids try this, but I'm squarely "Generation X" (I think!)
Yet Billy Idol is a boomer! Go figure.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Conroy92 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:40 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:12 am
Not sure on that exactly. I could see why the deal was done, at that time, at that price. Hoped for 15m+.

What I found hard to believe is how some posters couldn't see that you need several bidding clubs to be able to raise the price.

Like I said at the time, Newcastle held all the cards, yet inadvertently, despite the lower fee, it helped kick start our outstanding summer window (we signed 3 players within that week including Twine).

In the end a win win for all parties.
With all due respect there is a massive difference on knowing why we got £10m and being happy with £10m. I can appreciate why we only got £10 but it was an absolute steal at that price. People were making all sorts of comments about his age and the price being right for it.

I can't say Pope's sale led to the financing of our summer deals when we made the amount of money we did on sales over that window.

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:48 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:40 pm
With all due respect there is a massive difference on knowing why we got £10m and being happy with £10m. I can appreciate why we only got £10 but it was an absolute steal at that price. People were making all sorts of comments about his age and the price being right for it.

I can't say Pope's sale led to the financing of our summer deals when we made the amount of money we did on sales over that window.
£10 is a bit cheap to be fair

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Re: Nick Pope

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:27 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:40 pm
With all due respect there is a massive difference on knowing why we got £10m and being happy with £10m. I can appreciate why we only got £10 but it was an absolute steal at that price. People were making all sorts of comments about his age and the price being right for it.

I can't say Pope's sale led to the financing of our summer deals when we made the amount of money we did on sales over that window.
Try looking at it as 35 million for him and Wood 🪵 …. We did pretty good.
He wouldn’t fit in with our new system any road.

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