January transfer window rumours.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:53 pm

claret10 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:46 pm
Going on loan

I mean no money

claret10 · Post by **claret10** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:05 pm

Casper wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:53 pm
I mean no money

They must have found a way or we are doing them/him a favour by letting him go to play for the last 6 months of his contract

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:14 pm

Much as we appreciate what players like Westwood, Lowton, Long and even Barnes have done for the club, we have to appreciate BFC is not a charity. Will be great to get the first three off our wage bill, and blend in players who will become our future

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:17 pm

1HappyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:03 pm
Had a few correct for us in the summer, I think.

Links like this under dyche you could pretty much squash straight away but since kompany has arrived, any link or rumour seems possible

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:25 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:17 pm
Links like this under dyche you could pretty much squash straight away but since kompany has arrived, any link or rumour seems possible

Most significant thing Kompany has achieved in 6 months is making us attractive to exciting young European talent like the chap that posted on Zaroury’s instagram. That’s really important for us.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:27 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:14 pm
Much as we appreciate what players like Westwood, Lowton, Long and even Barnes have done for the club, we have to appreciate BFC is not a charity. Will be great to get the first three off our wage bill, and blend in players who will become our future

You are right.
I can't see any of those four making it into the matchday squad very often if at all, though Barnes could still play a part depending on what we do in the upcoming window.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:27 pm
You are right.
I can't see any of those four making it into the matchday squad very often if at all, though Barnes could still play a part depending on what we do in the upcoming window.

I have not been in the "Barnes to stay camp" for a while but in fairness since the Rovers game he has been a very valid member of the squad, and a big part of our game management when he comes on with about 15-20 minutes to go. However I feel by the end of the season, him getting into our team will be too big a challenge for him

timscoot · Post by **timscoot** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:20 pm

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basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:26 pm

We won't have the "heavy pitch" problems of yesteryear so that should save us a player or two

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:01 am

According to Nixon, Lowton is gone. Doesn't say where, just says he is gone.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:24 am

Sentimental, but if Lowts is off, I hope he can have a cameo somewhere, just so that the fans can show their appreciation. He's been a good solid pro for us.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:29 am

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:24 am
Sentimental, but if Lowts is off, I hope he can have a cameo somewhere, just so that the fans can show their appreciation. He's been a good solid pro for us.

Do you mean like Jensen's at Barnsley?

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:29 am

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:01 am
According to Nixon, Lowton is gone. Doesn't say where, just says he is gone.

Gone to Huddersfield on loan hasn’t he

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:31 am

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:29 am
Do you mean like Jensen's at Barnsley?

Don't recall it Silky.....

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:39 am

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:31 am
Don't recall it Silky.....

FA Cup at Barnsley and in the closing minutes made a mess.of a very.simple.cross providing them with a simple winner. In the grand scheme of things not significant but Lowton doesn't need a send off, he must have e some very happy memories of his time at Turf Moor.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:30 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:59 pm
I have not been in the "Barnes to stay camp" for a while but in fairness since the Rovers game he has been a very valid member of the squad, and a big part of our game management when he comes on with about 15-20 minutes to go. However I feel by the end of the season, him getting into our team will be too big a challenge for him

He will always be a "valid" member of the squad as he is our second choice of only two main strikers

This position has to be the top of any potential recruitments in January even if someone only comes in on a loan

He started last night and looked poor again - two goals against Blackburn should not cloud his obvious deficiencies

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:44 am

Last night made me want a striker in a bit more. I thought the difference Jay made when he came on was quite notable and injuries to him from here on could be our biggest threat to a collapse.

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:58 am

It’s tricky the striker situation, because there’s no point signing one in January that can’t transition to the Premier League.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:59 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:44 am
Last night made me want a striker in a bit more. I thought the difference Jay made when he came on was quite notable and injuries to him from here on could be our biggest threat to a collapse.

We would have to "buy back" Weghorst off loan

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:04 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:58 am
It’s tricky the striker situation, because there’s no point signing one in January that can’t transition to the Premier League.

Agree, but also could be a younger type who’s good enough now and can develop further into a PL player, if that makes sense.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:13 am

Sunderland have been dealt a blow with Simms being recalled by Everton

They had just got their front 2 back of him & Stewart

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:13 am
Sunderland have been dealt a blow with Simms being recalled by Everton

They had just got their front 2 back of him & Stewart

Saw this. Seems a desperate move by Everton, not sure he’s good enough for the PL, doesn’t even start at Sunderland.

That makes me think Saints will whip Tella back, though I did see them linked with a 20m move for a striker from Villarreal yesterday…

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:27 am

By what date in January can a club recall players that have been loaned for a season with an option of recall in January. Is it right up to the transfer deadline on the 31st or January 3rd given 1st and 2nd are holidays?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:30 am

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:13 am
Sunderland have been dealt a blow with Simms being recalled by Everton

They had just got their front 2 back of him & Stewart

Nothing I've seen of him suggests he's even remotely good enough for what they need

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:34 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am
Saw this. Seems a desperate move by Everton, not sure he’s good enough for the PL, doesn’t even start at Sunderland.

That makes me think Saints will whip Tella back, though I did see them linked with a 20m move for a striker from Villarreal yesterday…

They lost both him & Stewart around same time to injury and just got them both back fit.
Their fans think they play a lot better with both together in the team

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:37 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:04 am
Agree, but also could be a younger type who’s good enough now and can develop further into a PL player, if that makes sense.

JRod completely changed the game (much more so than Zaroury given how Stoke were sticking tight and blocking balls to the wide men).

The slightly frustrating thing here is that Dervisoglu looked the type of player that could play the role JRod played last night (dropping in, linking play nicely) but for whatever reason that’s not worked out. We 100% need a new striker if Dervisoglu is off.

Not really sure who we can go for. Gyökeres won’t go or would be too expensive, Obafemi I’m not sure is the same kind of player for this system(?). Imagine Undav loan will be the best bet.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:47 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am
Saw this. Seems a desperate move by Everton, not sure he’s good enough for the PL, doesn’t even start at Sunderland.

That makes me think Saints will whip Tella back, though I did see them linked with a 20m move for a striker from Villarreal yesterday…

He’s been injured. When fit he’s played well. 7 goals and 2 assists in 14 starts. To be fair not sure everton could do much worse up front.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:50 am

Dervisoglu is clearly seen as behind Barnes so no point in keeping him (unless we have agreed season loan)
Obafemi can't get in Swansea starting side so no point again really
Hopefully an unknown gem from Belgium league is being lined up

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:47 am
He’s been injured. When fit he’s played well. 7 goals and 2 assists in 14 starts. To be fair not sure everton could do much worse up front.

Yeah, but they seem to play with one striker most of the time and Stewart is ahead of him. He’s done well though, as you say, just not sure he’s the answer for Everton. But yeah, Everton are pretty thin there right now.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:58 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:37 am
JRod completely changed the game (much more so than Zaroury given how Stoke were sticking tight and blocking balls to the wide men).

The slightly frustrating thing here is that Dervisoglu looked the type of player that could play the role JRod played last night (dropping in, linking play nicely) but for whatever reason that’s not worked out. We 100% need a new striker if Dervisoglu is off.

Not really sure who we can go for. Gyökeres won’t go or would be too expensive, Obafemi I’m not sure is the same kind of player for this system(?). Imagine Undav loan will be the best bet.

Yeah I liked the look of Dervisoglu for the reasons you say. Not sure he’s got the work rate VK desires though. Obafemi would a different type so I’d welcome that, doesn’t necessarily have to be the same as Jay. Only 22 as well, so he’s someone at an age VK can improve and potentially be a useful option in the PL. I think Swans could be more open to a sale, judging by Martin’s comments recently.

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:05 am

A bit far fetched but VK should be asking his mate Pep for the young Argentinan lad who's just won the world cup. Alvarez I think it is, 10 minutes every other week for them won't help his development. 5 months with us playing the Pep way could be valuable for him and us

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:06 am

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:05 am
A bit far fetched but VK should be asking his mate Pep for the young Argentinan lad who's just won the world cup. Alvarez I think it is, 10 minutes every other week for them won't help his development. 5 months with us playing the Pep way could be valuable for him and us

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:06 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:58 am
Yeah I liked the look of Dervisoglu for the reasons you say. Not sure he’s got the work rate VK desires though. Obafemi would a different type so I’d welcome that, doesn’t necessarily have to be the same as Jay. Only 22 as well, so he’s someone at an age VK can improve and potentially be a useful option in the PL. I think Swans could be more open to a sale, judging by Martin’s comments recently.

Re: Obafemi, I’m imagining it depends on what he’s said to them behind the scenes. Does sound like he’s made it clear he wanted to leave.

Not even on the bench last night from what I can tell. Not sure if that’s an injury or he’s checked out.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:09 am

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:05 am
A bit far fetched but VK should be asking his mate Pep for the young Argentinan lad who's just won the world cup. Alvarez I think it is, 10 minutes every other week for them won't help his development. 5 months with us playing the Pep way could be valuable for him and us

Strong rumours that he’s off to Ipswich on loan.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:46 am

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:05 am
A bit far fetched but VK should be asking his mate Pep for the young Argentinan lad who's just won the world cup. Alvarez I think it is, 10 minutes every other week for them won't help his development. 5 months with us playing the Pep way could be valuable for him and us

We might as well ask if they’ll lend us Haaland whilst we’re at it.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:23 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:30 am
Nothing I've seen of him suggests he's even remotely good enough for what they need

And their scouting team thought Maupay was good enough

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:41 am

Still think Twine could provide the alternative to Jay in that front man role tasked with dropping deep and linking the play, allowing the wide men and midfielders to use the vacated space. It’s just we’d lose that physicality and height that Jay offers as well. Barnes can do the physical stuff but can’t link the play anywhere near as well.

Ideally, we’re looking for a younger version of Jay with all of his attributes, or we might decide to go down a different route and sign someone like Obafemi who hangs on the shoulder offering a huge thread in behind but that would require some more craft in the number 10 role than Brownhill can offer to make up for what Jay offers in midfield.

It’s a very interesting conundrum.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:05 pm

From Birmingham Live via BBC Gossip page:

"Wolverhampton Wanderers target Viktor Gyokeres, 24, is going nowhere in the January transfer window, says the Sweden forward's Coventry City boss Mark Robins."

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/ ... r-25862929

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:32 pm

Personally can see Robins moving on soon. His stock is probs at its highest at the moment and he will know that all that is on the horizon for Coventry is problems, problems and more problems.

KlyBfc · Post by **KlyBfc** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:57 pm

The lad at swansea which suits our style / way Jay plays is the lad Piroe but I’m not sure we have the money to prize him away. I’d take Martins though not sure he’d be good enough if we get promoted.

If we just want a striker (different to Jay) I’d take a gamble on Stewart at Sunderland who’s stalling on a new contract.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:26 pm

KlyBfc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:57 pm
The lad at swansea which suits our style / way Jay plays is the lad Piroe but I’m not sure we have the money to prize him away. I’d take Martins though not sure he’d be good enough if we get promoted.

If we just want a striker (different to Jay) I’d take a gamble on Stewart at Sunderland who’s stalling on a new contract.

Yes, if you’d told me we were trying to sign a striker from Swansea in the summer, I’d have imagined it’d be Piroe not Obafemi. Scores but not sure if he’s Prem quality.

Dovbyk also looks a player to me, imagine he could be cheaper than either.

Big advantage we have now is any deal involving promotion clauses will look likely to players/clubs so we might be able to compete if a player for instance knows their wages will likely be doubling in June.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:38 pm

Have we been linked with Dovbyk at all?

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:50 pm

Seems like an ideal time to utilise the overseas market with an ambitious raid for a top striker. The incoming player would see us a near guarantee of PL football next season with the luxury of time to acclimatise both in personal and footballing terms. Could even structure it as a loan with an obligation to purchase on promotion.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:54 pm

Maybe we go back in for Georges Mikautadze from Metz.

He’s done well for them since we tried for him.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:02 pm

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:38 pm
Have we been linked with Dovbyk at all?

Not recently, we were in summer.

He’s done well this season; 11/2 G/A in 15 games.

Agent was recently saying interest has intensified in him since summer & he would cost more than the €7-8m being quoted then. But that looks reasonable if you consider we allegedly went as high as £10m for Obafemi.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:04 pm

Zirkzee not pulling up any trees at Bologna but fancy Vinny could get a tune out of him. Swap deal with Wout anyone?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:59 pm

Noticed Zirkzee had faded. Think someone on here said he’d not had the best attitude at Anderlecht or something.

Guitargeorge · Post by **Guitargeorge** » Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:34 am

Happy New Year! Have we signed anybody yet? Looks like we’re leaving it until the last minute again.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:50 am

Burnley sign players on the last legs of their Contract. We loan others with longer contracts.

If Lowton gas gone then he deserves our best wishes. I think Westwood could be very valuable in the run in. He is a class player. Barnes still has some in the tank.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:58 am

I hope Westwood stays until the end of the season.

Experienced head and good cover in midfield should we get an injury.