January transfer window rumours.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by brunlea99 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:23 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:07 am
Article in the Mail this morning suggesting the Obafemi deal is an option to buy, not obligation.

Expect the deal will get announced today, so hopefully it will be cleared up. I'd be infinitely more comfortable with this deal if it's an option - or even an obligation based on games played/goals scored.
I've read the article and the phrase "option to buy", is not mentioned, in fact the word option is not in the article. It does say "on an initial loan with view to a £3m deal in the summer".

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:24 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:12 am
But can he trap a bag of sand? Or cement? :D
A dog chasing a balloon as my mate used to say about Andre, but crikey he was bloody quick (and he could certainly stick his chances away!)
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:10 am

brunlea99 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:23 am
I've read the article and the phrase "option to buy", is not mentioned, in fact the word option is not in the article. It does say "on an initial loan with view to a £3m deal in the summer".
We'll be seeing what his heads like first :P

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:39 am

I predict Sean will be in for Charlie Taylor before the end of the window.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:39 am

There can also be loans with mandatory agreed permanent transfer upon expiry of said loan. It’s what Juventus did to finance deals for Chiesa, Rabiot, Bernadeschi, Morata, etc.

It’s not just option to buys.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:55 am

Maybe Barnes too :)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Goobs » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:09 pm

HiThere wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:16 am
Imagine being the opposition needing a goal when you have him, Zaroury, Benson and Tella upfront for the counter!
Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:17 am
Don't forget Foster, he's not exactly slow.
Jesus we are 1 up late on the opposition are pushing for an equaliser and we are playing with 5 forwards! That's some Kevin Keegan style football right there 🤣
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:16 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:39 am
I predict Sean will be in for Charlie Taylor before the end of the window.
That would depend on Taylor wanting to play under Dyche and his coaching staff again! Penny for the thoughts of Tarkowski and McNeil currently.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by martin_p » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:20 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:16 pm
That would depend on Taylor wanting to play under Dyche and his coaching staff again! Penny for the thoughts of Tarkowski and McNeil currently.
They both played the best football of their careers under Dyche. People claimed Dyche was holding McNeil back but under Lampard he’s been as bad, if not worse, than he was for most of last season.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:29 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:39 am
There can also be loans with mandatory agreed permanent transfer upon expiry of said loan. It’s what Juventus did to finance deals for Chiesa, Rabiot, Bernadeschi, Morata, etc.

It’s not just option to buys.
I wouldn’t be getting financial tips from Juve, they just been done again and deducted 12 points for financial irregularities and are embroiled in YET ANOTHER controversy.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:35 pm

brunlea99 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:23 am
I've read the article and the phrase "option to buy", is not mentioned, in fact the word option is not in the article. It does say "on an initial loan with view to a £3m deal in the summer".
That's why I said 'suggests'. A "view" to a deal doesn't sound like an obligation to me. But lets not get caught up in semantics. It should become clearer once the deal is finalised.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:39 am
I predict Sean will be in for Charlie Taylor before the end of the window.
Wouldn't be averse to that to be honest. VK doesn't see him as a left back and he's not in our best 2 current centre backs of THB and Beyer - granted THB is injured currently, but we've also got the 2 new CBs to throw into the mix. If we can get something bordering £5-6m for him I think that works for everyone as he'll be one of the higher earners you'd guess.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by kenyon6923 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:49 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:16 pm
That would depend on Taylor wanting to play under Dyche and his coaching staff again! Penny for the thoughts of Tarkowski and McNeil currently.
I think looking at their monthly pay slip will help.any regrets !!! Particularly Tarks as a free agent move.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:50 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm
Wouldn't be averse to that to be honest. VK doesn't see him as a left back and he's not in our best 2 current centre backs of THB and Beyer - granted THB is injured currently, but we've also got the 2 new CBs to throw into the mix. If we can get something bordering £5-6m for him I think that works for everyone as he'll be one of the higher earners you'd guess.
I agree. I also think the club will jump at the chance of getting his wages off the books.... We have bought replacements for CB, and there are better options at LB.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:52 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm
Wouldn't be averse to that to be honest. VK doesn't see him as a left back and he's not in our best 2 current centre backs of THB and Beyer - granted THB is injured currently, but we've also got the 2 new CBs to throw into the mix. If we can get something bordering £5-6m for him I think that works for everyone as he'll be one of the higher earners you'd guess.
Would leave us a bit short of cover at a critical time in the season in my opinion. THB is injured, the 2 new Centre Backs are untried, and Taylor can also cover for Maatsen
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Carwin261 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:54 pm

Only problem I can see letting Taylor leave is that if THB,& Beyer go back we have then 2 new centre half’s ,and Taylor,that’s not feasible if we get suspensions ,or injuries.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Greenmile » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:55 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:50 pm
I agree. I also think the club will jump at the chance of getting his wages off the books.... We have bought replacements for CB, and there are better options at LB.
Who would play LB if Maatsen got injured though? Vitinho?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:56 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:54 pm
Only problem I can see letting Taylor leave is that if THB,& Beyer go back we have then 2 new centre half’s ,and Taylor,that’s not feasible if we get suspensions ,or injuries.
We won’t be in any different position to the one we were in prior to this window.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ralph8 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:00 pm

We need Taylors height and experience of the Championship, especially when dealing with an aerial bombardment from the Sheff U types.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:03 pm

ralph8 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:00 pm
We need Taylors height and experience of the Championship, especially when dealing with an aerial bombardment from the Sheff U types.
I prefer we played him at LB. He was excellent in that position, but VK doesn't seem to want to play him there.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:03 pm

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:56 pm
We won’t be in any different position to the one we were in prior to this window.
Prior to the window THB wasnt injured, we still had Long and NcNally on the books, and we hadnt signed the 2 new , as yet unproven Centre Backs.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Stayingup » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:08 pm

Just read some stats on O'Bafemi. 5'7".tall - or small depending.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Woonderbah » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:16 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:16 pm
That would depend on Taylor wanting to play under Dyche and his coaching staff again! Penny for the thoughts of Tarkowski and McNeil currently.
Would be interesting to know how Pope feels about Billy Mercer coaching Pickford to keep the England shirt out of Pope's grasp

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:25 pm

kenyon6923 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:49 pm
I think looking at their monthly pay slip will help.any regrets !!! Particularly Tarks as a free agent move.
Tarks never gave less than 100% all of last season. Unless summat went on at Gawthorpe I don't see why there should be a problem.
McNeil is a different matter as SD seemed to lose confidence in him, rightly as things have transpired.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretandy » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:27 pm

Woonderbah wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:16 pm
Would be interesting to know how Pope feels about Billy Mercer coaching Pickford to keep the England shirt out of Pope's grasp
Mercer is at Rotherham.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:27 pm

Taylor is a proven PL defender at LB. Getting him off the books whilst Maatsen is only on loan would be madness.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:27 pm

claretandy wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:27 pm
Mercer is at Rotherham.
But for how long?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:32 pm

Don't Everton have the England GK coach as theirs?

Pickford won't like him getting replaced.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:33 pm

Pope seems to be doing OK without worrying about where Mercer ends up. 😉

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:38 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:20 pm
They both played the best football of their careers under Dyche. People claimed Dyche was holding McNeil back but under Lampard he’s been as bad, if not worse, than he was for most of last season.
They did although I’m not sure they were enjoying playing under him at the end.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Pearcey » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pm

Thought Obafemi would’ve been confirmed by now. Are we expecting anything today?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:02 pm

People seem to be forgetting that Dyche, for reasons known only to him, often preferred Erik Pieters to Charlie Taylor.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:13 pm

Pieters was the better player for most of last season to be fair to him.
Taylor was way off it.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cooclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:16 pm
That would depend on Taylor wanting to play under Dyche and his coaching staff again! Penny for the thoughts of Tarkowski and McNeil currently.
We’re presuming be takes them?

I always said I’d be interested to see who follows him into his next role. He’s a bright man and reflects well.

I think he will keep the Everton backroom staff.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cooclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:24 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:25 pm
Tarks never gave less than 100% all of last season. Unless summat went on at Gawthorpe I don't see why there should be a problem.
McNeil is a different matter as SD seemed to lose confidence in him, rightly as things have transpired.
McNeil is bobbins

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:24 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pm
Thought Obafemi would’ve been confirmed by now. Are we expecting anything today?
All the recent announcements have been made early evening if I recall correctly - between 5 and 7pm.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by halfmanhalfbiscuit » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:34 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pm
Thought Obafemi would’ve been confirmed by now. Are we expecting anything today?
Yeah me too.
Do we know if he's had his medical?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:39 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:23 pm
We’re presuming be takes them?

I always said I’d be interested to see who follows him into his next role. He’s a bright man and reflects well.

I think he will keep the Everton backroom staff.
Probably wrong thread for me to be commenting ,but he might not have a choice about the backroom staff if they are contracted they have already paid FL out maybe not fully but you'd expect some in part & hired SD (which is looking likely not confirmed yet) so FM might not want to get rid of them even if SD did. After what's happened recently I wouldn't be surprised if FM assumes more operational control instead of being on the periphery.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:40 pm

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:34 pm
Yeah me too.
Do we know if he's had his medical?
It’s been reported that he’s passed his medical and set to be announced today. Like someone else said, we usually do them post 5pm, I imagine because it gets more traffic on twitter.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:40 pm

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:34 pm
Yeah me too.
Do we know if he's had his medical?
Medical passed yesterday according to Pete O'Rourke. Announcement will likely be later on today after all the media stuff is done.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Commy » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:43 pm

We used to have to wait for the photos but now we have to wait for the reveal videos to be done :lol: .
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cooclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:49 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:39 pm
Probably wrong thread for me to be commenting ,but he might not have a choice about the backroom staff if they are contracted they have already paid FL out maybe not fully but you'd expect some in part & hired SD (which is looking likely not confirmed yet) so FM might not want to get rid of them even if SD did. After what's happened recently I wouldn't be surprised if FM assumes more operational control instead of being on the periphery.
Bielsa loves a huge backroom staff, I can see Dyche being an attraction because he doesn’t or isn’t taking many of any with him!

Funny that Ferguson is out the door and they switch to Dyche…

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:52 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:49 pm
Bielsa loves a huge backroom staff, I can see Dyche being an attraction because he doesn’t or isn’t taking many of any with him!

Funny that Ferguson is out the door and they switch to Dyche…
Dyche is a good bloke & a good manager but let's not pretend he was first choice they have turned to him as the cheaper 2nd choice but I think they'll still do well because despite of that he's a good match for them.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:07 pm

Owen Dodgson has joined Rochdale on loan, good luck to him

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Petersa » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:15 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:39 pm
Probably wrong thread for me to be commenting ,but he might not have a choice about the backroom staff if they are contracted they have already paid FL out maybe not fully but you'd expect some in part & hired SD (which is looking likely not confirmed yet) so FM might not want to get rid of them even if SD did. After what's happened recently I wouldn't be surprised if FM assumes more operational control instead of being on the periphery.
Think I read that a number of backroom staff went with Frank, only remember because one was that incredibly successful ex manager Paul Clement. What a CV that guy must have...can't understand why anyone would want to offload him

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:28 pm

Petersa wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:15 pm
Think I read that a number of backroom staff went with Frank, only remember because one was that incredibly successful ex manager Paul Clement. What a CV that guy must have...can't understand why anyone would want to offload him
Agree I'm moving away from this theme because I can see what's coming on this thread we can't be far off a moan, it's specifically for transfers & there's enough lampard & dyche threads going.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:36 pm

Paul Clement ……. The weird Dracula dance at Swansea?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Petersa » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:37 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:28 pm
Agree I'm moving away from this theme because I can see what's coming on this thread we can't be far off a moan, it's specifically for transfers & there's enough lampard & dyche threads going.
Quite agree just to say I genuinely wish SD the very best at Everton.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:58 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:24 pm
McNeil is bobbins
Really?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:22 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:58 pm
Really?
Certainly over the last season and a half. Can’t cut it as a winger, might need to play in midfield where many said he would end up.

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