agreenwood wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:46 pm

We’ve been linked with Jovane Cabral again in this article..

https://observador.pt/2023/01/30/sporti ... 1675114671

We don’t have space in the match day squad for any more loans anyway.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:51 am

We don’t have space in the match day squad for any more loans anyway.

Obafemi makes 6, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Dervişoğlu is gone by 11pm tonight and Harwood-Bellis seems unlikely to play again for another month or two.

More on Jovane this morning...

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/01/31/b ... -4-5m-bid/

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:51 am

We don’t have space in the match day squad for any more loans anyway.

Perhaps it more about getting players in now with a view to next season

Jovane sounds exactly like a player we don’t need
Arrogant and big headed. Talks too much and plays very little.
Leave him where he is.

ayrshireclaret83 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:59 pm

Can’t see that now although I always liked him he’d be a great signing imo

If this happens it makes me fear that JBG/Bensons injury could be worse than expected. Either that or he isn’t liking the look of Churlinov/Twine as back up.

Surely Kompany and others no more about any player they are interested in and their attitudes than posters on here reading what could well be lazy or bitter reports by "modern journalists"

Obafemi we should avoid
Cabral we should avoid

We were told we were doing it on the cheap through the summer, told we will struggle this season, relegation more likely than promotion.

Benson was crap and has no end product

Why not just trust the manager has he not earned that up to now

Barnes being linked with a move to Stoke by the Mirror.

Honestly, what a time to be alive.....

"Judge us on what we do, not what we say" was the words of Alan Pace at the beginning...... And even though we are betting the ranch, its ours to loose.... And this journey we are on this season on and off the pitch is nothing short of incredible....

Managing to get Kompany and Bellamy was a master stroke in itself....

UTC

colne-claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:57 am

If this happens it makes me fear that JBG/Bensons injury could be worse than expected. Either that or he isn’t liking the look of Churlinov/Twine as back up.

Kompany has said both injuries are short term, could be a case of him not classing JBG as a wide player anymore, so in theory bringing another wide player wouldn’t be a bad idea

CM - Cullen cork bastien brownhill
10s - brownhill JBG twine
Wingers - benson tella zaroury churlinov and potentially Cabral
Strikers - jay rod barnes foster obafemi

Somebody has already edited his wiki page and has his current club as Burnley Belvedere

Quiet day expected? We don't really need anyone do we? Maybe a Westwood replacement would have been nice but i don't think it's desperate. No last minute panic-buying this year...we've been well prepared!

Think ideally we would like another central midfielder - we have 4 now having lost Westwood, and the back stop cover in the squad was Egan Riley who has gone on loan.

Of course those 4 are backed up by JBG, Twine and Rodriguez who can drop in as a 10, but it still leaves us slightly short on cover given our tendency to play 3 at any one time.

But that's council of perfection stuff really. There's no glaring gaps in this squad at all right now.

claretspice wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:35 am

Think ideally we would like another central midfielder - we have 4 now having lost Westwood, and the back stop cover in the squad was Egan Riley who has gone in loan.

Of course those 4 are backed up by JBG, Twine and Rodriguez who can drop in as a 10, but it still leaves us slightly short on cover given our tendency to play 3 at any one time.

Agreed. An extra body in there could be really handy/essential if we were to lose one, or god forbid two, of Cullen/Cork/Browny through injury or suspension. Those deep lying CM's do put themselves about a lot in our team too.

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:43 am

Agreed. An extra body in there could be really handy/essential if we were to lose one, or god forbid two, of Cullen/Cork/Browny through injury or suspension. Those deep lying CM's do put themselves about a lot in our team too.

Cork in particular seems to pick up a booking most weeks...suspended on Saturday of course and likely to hit the threshold for a 3 game ban before the end of the season the way he is going

It makes you wonder with all the players we’ve brought in, what business we would as to actually look to do in the summer. If we were able to retain the loan players and sign a new midfielder, would that be us more or let set for the premier league?

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:43 am

Agreed. An extra body in there could be really handy/essential if we were to lose one, or god forbid two, of Cullen/Cork/Browny through injury or suspension. Those deep lying CM's do put themselves about a lot in our team too.

Jack Cork has 11 yellows from 29 appearances, that would suggest he's likely to finish the season with 17 cards which means it's more a case of when rather than if he'll be suspended. If Cullen or Brownhill get injured at the same time we'll be relying on Bastien to step in and if we lose another player we may even need someone like Vitinho or Charlie Taylor to slot in there for a game or two. I think we have enough in our squad to cope. For once we don't really seem to have an obvious candidate in the U21s to take a place on the bench if we are light in numbers in that area.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:56 am

Cork in particular seems to pick up a booking most weeks...suspended on Saturday of course and likely to hit the threshold for a 3 game ban before the end of the season the way he is going

I think he will likely to carry on doing so too as it seems he's been tasked with "taking one for the team" when the opposition are breaking in numbers...

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:05 am

It makes you wonder with all the players we’ve brought in, what business we would as to actually look to do in the summer. If we were able to retain the loan players and sign a new midfielder, would that be us more or let set for the premier league?

Keeping the loan players would cost us a fortune given how they have played for us. I just hope we do have an option on Beyer but cant think City will release THB. Maatsen and Tella maybe get for combined £20million if we are lucky but no idea how they will perform in the Prem.
As Hansen said you win nothing with kids

Bastien isn’t getting enough game time, so I’m unclear why adding another back up midfielder helps so much.

If we’re signing a new midfielder it’s an upgrade to the first team or we hold off until summer as far as I’m concerned.

ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:43 am

Agreed. An extra body in there could be really handy/essential if we were to lose one, or god forbid two, of Cullen/Cork/Browny through injury or suspension. Those deep lying CM's do put themselves about a lot in our team too.

For me it would take the shine off an otherwise great window if we didn’t get a CDM.

You can argue that we could cover one injury/suspension to Cork/Cullen with Brownhill and JBG/Twine fitting in. I think if they were both out for whatever reason, we’d struggle. For me it seems a bit risky loaning CJ, bringing in 2 CB’s and loaning McNally, if you’re not going to add there.

Hadziahmetovic would’ve been perfect - defensive, but creative, capable of running with it, turning attack to defence. The other that occurs is Lokonga - Chelsea close to signing Jorginho, who plays in his position, and also have been after Caicedo (but not getting him), so he’s well down the picking order.

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:07 am

Barnes being linked with a move to Stoke by the Mirror.

Must say I'd be disappointed with this if it happens, certainly before the end of the season, when I believe he's out of contract.
AB can come on and unsettle defences like very few we have and knows where the net is, fair enough, he's not exactly permanently on fire, but a good option to have.

Like I say, the end of the season is another matter, but for now he should stay imo.

Socrates wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:10 am

Bastien isn’t getting enough game time, so I’m unclear why adding another back up midfielder helps so much.

If we’re signing a new midfielder it’s an upgrade to the first team or we hold off until summer as far as I’m concerned.

Yeah, agree with this. Don’t really get the need for one, would much rather see Twine get a chance (plus already JBG there too) if Brownhill needs to drop back in.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:05 am

It makes you wonder with all the players we’ve brought in, what business we would as to actually look to do in the summer. If we were able to retain the loan players and sign a new midfielder, would that be us more or let set for the premier league?

I was thinking about this last night. I'd expect BPF to move on for first team football and us to sign a very good keeper, possibly first choice. Unless he shows more between now and the end of the season then Bastien might need upgrading. Churlinov is in the same boat. Barnes is likely to leave in the summer which leaves a slot for another striker. Add Beyer, Maatsen, Tella, THB and Obafemi to it and it will have to be a really busy window again.

Yeah the loans we have now, will be interesting in terms of if we can get them and if they are fit for the prem (if we go up) and how much clubs will want for them.

THB - Potential we could get him on a season loan again? Can't see City selling
Beyer - Good chance of striking a deal.
Maatsen - Again we could get him, but is he good enough for the prem, and good value?
Tella - Love him, but depends on Southampton's situation and how much they want for him. Is he good enough for the prem? Can we get better value for say around 10 million?

Id rather have Twine getting more minutes in the ten area and Brownhill alongside Cullen in the games where Cork is unavailable than sign someone just for the sake of it.

If we go up the options we’ll have at centre mid will be far bigger and that’s a really key signing (long term Cork replacement). I’d rather wait till then and go very big (for us).

Socrates wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:10 am

Bastien isn’t getting enough game time, so I’m unclear why adding another back up midfielder helps so much.

If we’re signing a new midfielder it’s an upgrade to the first team or we hold off until summer as far as I’m concerned.

I think it's either an upgrade to the first team, or someone who is 'one for the future' - we signed Egan Riley and McNally in the summer clearly in the expectation they wouldn't feature immediately but could be developed over time, and no reason why we shouldn't do the same in midfield right now. But I agree, its insurance rather than necessity and if the right candidate isn't available, we shouldn't waste money for the sake of it.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:10 am

The other that occurs is Lokonga - Chelsea close to signing Jorginho, who plays in his position, and also have been after Caicedo (but not getting him), so he’s well down the picking order.

If he weren’t off to Palace on loan of course

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:10 am

For me it would take the shine off an otherwise great window if we didn’t get a CDM.

You can argue that we could cover one injury/suspension to Cork/Cullen with Brownhill and JBG/Twine fitting in. I think if they were both out for whatever reason, we’d struggle. For me it seems a bit risky loaning CJ, bringing in 2 CB’s and loaning McNally, if you’re not going to add there.

Hadziahmetovic would’ve been perfect - defensive, but creative, capable of running with it, turning attack to defence. The other that occurs is Lokonga - Chelsea close to signing Jorginho, who plays in his position, and also have been after Caicedo (but not getting him), so he’s well down the picking order.

Lokonga plays for Arsenal

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:47 am

Lokonga plays for Arsenal

Sorry, meant Arsenal close to signing Jorginho (from Chelsea).

But he’s going Palace anyway.

We’re not going to be signing another winger on 6 months plus salary + possible loan/transfer fee just to cover some lads that are out of action for a couple of week tops.

This, and the other transfer window, having seen us bring in 20+ players that have performed better than anyone could have ever imagined, will not have the shine taken off them because we haven’t managed to secure another midfielder.

We have gone from famine to feast and I fear some of you have been spoilt.

colne-claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:57 am

If this happens it makes me fear that JBG/Bensons injury could be worse than expected. Either that or he isn’t liking the look of Churlinov/Twine as back up.

Mentioned the other day that I’d Benson’s injury wasn’t good. At that time heard that Elanga was wanted. Can’t see that now with the loan limits.

Perhaps Churlinov needs a loan to get going, long term planning seems to be an active process undertaken by Pace and Kompany.

Well we won’t be replacing JBG

Just signed new deal until 2024 plus option of another year

JBG signed a new contract.

Great news

Shocked on that one but good news. Hope he’s back from injury soon.

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:02 am

JBG signed a new contract.

Great news

Brilliant, he's been a player reborn this season.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:04 am

Brilliant, he's been a player reborn this season.

He's made a difference when he's come on, even when we've been struggling to get control of games.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:05 am

It makes you wonder with all the players we’ve brought in, what business we would as to actually look to do in the summer. If we were able to retain the loan players and sign a new midfielder, would that be us more or let set for the premier league?

I was wondering this morning, because we have bought a lot of players, and should promotion be confirmed, we will need a new batch of players, if the policy is to buy 2 or 3 for every position, find out who is the best and keep them. Sell the 1 or 2 that aren't quite there, and replace with known/hoped for better. I can't imagine us starting next season, with this seasons squad, so somebody has to go.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:02 am

Shocked on that one but good news. Hope he’s back from injury soon.

When you hear Kompany talk about JBG this news comes as no surprise

dibraidio wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:15 am

I was thinking about this last night. I'd expect BPF to move on for first team football and us to sign a very good keeper, possibly first choice. Unless he shows more between now and the end of the season then Bastien might need upgrading. Churlinov is in the same boat. Barnes is likely to leave in the summer which leaves a slot for another striker. Add Beyer, Maatsen, Tella, THB and Obafemi to it and it will have to be a really busy window again.

Muric isn't getting replaced.
He does what VK wants, and VK likes him. If you listened to Corberan you would understand why he is essential to the way the whole team plays.
You need to stop focusing on his so called shortcomings, they are there, and VK knows they are there, but he isn't bothered, and neither should we be.
Muric is growing all the time, and I like him more and more, give it a year and he will be a fans favourite, even though the occasional clanger is inevitable.

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:40 am

Muric isn't getting replaced.
He does what VK wants, and VK likes him. If you listened to Corberan you would understand why he is essential to the way the whole team plays.
You need to stop focusing on his so called shortcomings, they are there, and VK knows they are there, but he isn't bothered, and neither should we be.
Muric is growing all the time, and I like him more and more, give it a year and he will be a fans favourite, even though the occasional clanger is inevitable.

It isn't rocket science is it? If Muric didn't have shortcomings, he wouldn't be playing for us would he?

Belgian media linking us with a move for Enock Agyei.

ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:43 am

It isn't rocket science is it? If Muric didn't have shortcomings, he wouldn't be playing for us would he?

This.

That will be for the under 21 again
Just turned 18

Belgian U18 international at Anderlecht - doesn't look like he's made his first team debut but has 17 games/4 goals/1 assist in the 'Challenger Pro League' for their youth team called RSCA Futures (I think that's the second tier in Belgium?).

Clearly someone that Kompany must have seen a lot of potential in when he was there.

Wonder what his twin brother is like given he has no club at present

ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:43 am

It isn't rocket science is it? If Muric didn't have shortcomings, he wouldn't be playing for us would he?

Its like when im watching Zizkov. We have players who you just know if they dont complete their move in 3 touches, the 4th inevitably is horrendous. I then quietly sing "that's why you play for us, that's why you play for us etc etc"

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20230131_94318815

Looks like the 18 year old Belgian Agyei mentioned further up will be joining but not until the summer.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:19 pm

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20230131_94318815

Looks like the 18 year old Belgian Agyei mentioned further up will be joining but not until the summer.

I take your word for that then RV

Agyei is one we looked at last summer, same time as Cullen.