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David Gold dead

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:59 pm

Half of the West Ham owners passed away this morning following a short illness.

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David Gold has died

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:59 pm

Joint chairman of West Ham David Gold has passed away aged 86.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:03 pm

I think we both posted about the same time. I’ve merged the two.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Croydon Claret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:09 pm

He lived pretty close to me. Used to open his gardens in the summer to raise money for the local hospice

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by NRC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:09 pm

porn in the UK will never be the same. Another exploiter of the vulnerable

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:29 pm

I know it's said you shouldn't speak ill of the dead but---

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Zlatan » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:30 pm

RIP Mr Gold

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Rowls » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:45 pm

Obviously, the way he made his money makes him a target for a lot of criticism yet few people are critical of widespread proliferation of porn these days. There's a good debate to be had about the morality of the sector he made his wealth in.

I heard him speak eloquently about the poverty he endured during childhood and how the fear that he would lose his wealth never left him.

RIP

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by NRC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:50 pm

Sky Sports reporter reports his working career as "He had interests in property, publishing, and retail, he even owned his own airline for a while."

Daily Star gets marginally closer

Brought up in the east end of London, he was forced into developing his entrepreneurial ways as he and his mum battled poverty, while his criminal dad Godfrey 'Goldy' Gold was behind bars. A botched heist saw dozy getaway driver Gold senior fall asleep at the wheel of a lorry, after his gang had hauled a barge containing £75,000 of copper ingots off the Thames.

Gold junior meanwhile would help raise funds for his mum by selling buttons from a stall outside their house and later cards and sweets from their front room. At the age of eight he survived tuberculosis - a young friend wasn't so lucky and died from the disease.

David Gold found success with many businesses including Ann Summers (Image: News Team International/Dave Evetts)
The aspiring businessman and publisher first worked as a bricklayer. But Gold, well, struck gold when he founded Ann Summers, now run by his daughters Jacqueline and Vanessa.

However, while business was booming, Gold's personal life was anything but. He realised his dad was stealing his shares on the same day he found the mum of his children and wife of 15 years cheating on him with his best friend in his swimming pool.

He joined forces with Sullivan that same year of 1972 and they launched the Sunday Sport newspaper in 1986, which went down as another raging success, thanks to its mixture of topless glamour models and satirical stories.

Along with brother Ralph, he also co-owned adult magazine company Gold Star Publications who printed and distributed a number of X-rated titles, including Rustler and Raider.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by warksclaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:17 pm

He's a dying breed

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:17 pm

I should imagine the do after the funeral will be full of tits,fanny and Clarets.
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:42 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:17 pm
I should imagine the do after the funeral will be full of tits,fanny and Clarets.
Tony Livesey worked for him as an Editor and Managing Director at The Sport and Sunday Sport ... he wrote a book in 1998 called "Babes, Booze, Orgies and Aliens: The Inside Story of Sport Newspapers"

Have a memory of him bringing "The Sport Girls" to Turf Moor who paraded on the pitch at 1/2 time but I may be mistaken

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Hipper » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:48 pm

Porn is very popular and not necessarily illegal. One of our 'greatest fans' was involved in it. A top fan and active supporter of another club was editor of a 'girly magazine'. I bet many on here have looked at porn and used it for various purposes. I looked at porn when I was a youth and found it, er, interesting and educational. Until I became active in the field I learned more from that then sex lessons at school or home, which were practically non existent.

Fein the moral high ground if you must but legal porn has its uses.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:52 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Porn is very popular and not necessarily illegal. One of our 'greatest fans' was involved in it. A top fan and active supporter of another club was editor of a 'girly magazine'. I bet many on here have looked at porn and used it for various purposes. I looked at porn when I was a youth and found it, er, interesting and educational. Until I became active in the field I learned more from that then sex lessons at school or home, which were practically non existent.

Fein the moral high ground if you must but legal porn has its uses.
Agree, long live porn!
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:23 pm

An easy target was Gold , though people perhaps forget he turned sex shops into high street stores with AS ,and even his publishing empire was very legit soft porn titles .His daus Van n Jaq are v smart cookies. Gold used to remind me of Alan Sugar ,proper born n bred east London Jew .I met him several times and his brother Roger/Ray? and once with Sullivan too after they shed a few “ titles “ lateish 90’s. DG was out the game 30 yrs ago though .Bit curt and very businesslike but a fine life .RIP DG

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Holmeclaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:24 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Porn is very popular and not necessarily illegal. One of our 'greatest fans' was involved in it. A top fan and active supporter of another club was editor of a 'girly magazine'. I bet many on here have looked at porn and used it for various purposes. I looked at porn when I was a youth and found it, er, interesting and educational. Until I became active in the field I learned more from that then sex lessons at school or home, which were practically non existent.

Fein the moral high ground if you must but legal porn has its uses.
Get a grip, Hipper 😁

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by AmbleClaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:57 pm

Have a memory of him bringing "The Sport Girls" to Turf Moor who paraded on the pitch at 1/2 time but I may be mistaken
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Are you getting confused with Fancy Pants dog troupe ? :lol:

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by mkmel » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:10 pm

Serious question......What wrongs did he ever do?

And why is there any animosity towards him?

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:24 pm

The guy made money and lots of it and from what I can tell he made it entirely legally. Some may not agree with the way he made it (like me with tobacco companies for example), but there was clearly a hell of a market for what he was selling or he'd have made nowt.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by mkmel » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:26 pm

Tobacco kills Porn doesn't kill
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:27 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Porn is very popular and not necessarily illegal. One of our 'greatest fans' was involved in it. A top fan and active supporter of another club was editor of a 'girly magazine'. I bet many on here have looked at porn and used it for various purposes. I looked at porn when I was a youth and found it, er, interesting and educational. Until I became active in the field I learned more from that then sex lessons at school or home, which were practically non existent.

Fein the moral high ground if you must but legal porn has its uses.
There's more than one purpose for porn?
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:27 pm

I prefer Tony's post to the op.

He seems to have earned a lot and spent a lot - not bad.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:28 pm

mkmel wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:26 pm
Tobacco kills Porn doesn't kill
Maybe not the best choice of analogy. I was simply trying to show that how he made his cash was totally legitimate, despite some people seemingly having a "moral" issue with it. I was actually agreeing with your point of view, but may not have made myself clear.
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:47 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:57 pm
Have a memory of him bringing "The Sport Girls" to Turf Moor who paraded on the pitch at 1/2 time but I may be mistaken
Are you getting confused with Fancy Pants dog troupe ? :lol:
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No honestly ... I am sure the Sport Girls came with Livesey to Turf Moor

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by dougcollins » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:42 pm
Tony Livesey worked for him as an Editor and Managing Director at The Sport and Sunday Sport ... he wrote a book in 1998 called "Babes, Booze, Orgies and Aliens: The Inside Story of Sport Newspapers"

Have a memory of him bringing "The Sport Girls" to Turf Moor who paraded on the pitch at 1/2 time but I may be mistaken

I once asked Tony for a job when we were waiting for an away coach in the Morris Dancers.

He asked me: 'Do you have any journalistic experience?'

Me: 'None whatsoever'.

Tony: 'Start on Monday'.
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:20 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:13 pm
I once asked Tony for a job when we were waiting for an away coach in the Morris Dancers.

He asked me: 'Do you have any journalistic experience?'

Me: 'None whatsoever'.

Tony: 'Start on Monday'.
He used to park in the Tennis Club and walked down many times with him (he went to School with a m8 of mine who used to be at Rolls Royce)
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by NRC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:30 pm

mkmel wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Serious question......What wrongs did he ever do?

And why is there any animosity towards him?
no issue with porn whatsoever, but it manifests in deepening levels of depravity. It should be a regulated industry to ensure that participants know what they're doing, why they're doing it, have the mentality to understand it, and do so with full consent. I'll never be convinced that all the participants that went through the various pornographic doors of Gold HQ knew what they were doing

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:50 pm

NRC wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:30 pm
no issue with porn whatsoever, but it manifests in deepening levels of depravity. It should be a regulated industry to ensure that participants know what they're doing, why they're doing it, have the mentality to understand it, and do so with full consent. I'll never be convinced that all the participants that went through the various pornographic doors of Gold HQ knew what they were doing
They were soft core jazz mags and Ann Summers stores . Sullivan was more in the publishing side though and he’s always been a pornmeister. His “ empire “ was mainly earned on the property , distribution rights and publishing . He got out yrs before he actually sold up as well maybe 30+ yrs ago .

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by JohnMac » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:39 am

Surely you can't knock anything about someone from such a poor childhood making a success of his life.

He wasn't exactly Dirk Diggler!

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Lip » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:42 pm

R.I.P. David Gold

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:17 pm

It's been announced that his daughter Jaqueline has died today after a 7 year battle with breast cancer aged just 62.
She was the "Boss" of the Ann Summers chain, and highly respected in the business world.
Not a good year for the Gold family.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:18 pm

She was only 62 too

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Croydon Claret » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:04 pm

The Anne Summers headquarters, and factory shop, is just a couple of miles down the road from me. It's such a landmark that the roundabout it's next to has been locally christened "The Ann Summers" roundabout, without a bat of any eyelid
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Re: David Gold dead

Post by IanMcL » Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:59 pm

Damn shame. Always appeared to be a very nice and very helpful person, to anyone needing such help.

Long, long time to be at stage 4. Must have been a rough ride.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Rowls » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:57 am

Both Tony Livesey and Alistair Campbell have peddled porn mags during their careers.

Didn’t harm their careers and nothing wrong in it. Don’t really understand the vitriole aimed at Gold.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:57 am

Rowls wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:57 am
Both Tony Livesey and Alistair Campbell have peddled porn mags during their careers.

Didn’t harm their careers and nothing wrong in it. Don’t really understand the vitriole aimed at Gold.
Equally it's a mystery to me to fail to understand people that see things that aren't there. The vitriole at gold only exists in an imaginary figment.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:02 am

I think the Gold “vitriol “ was more football related “ easy target” stuff . Who couldn’t resist the “dildo twins” moniker . He was however highly respected . Sounds like Jaq Gold had an awfully long fight with breast cancer , may she RIP.

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Re: David Gold dead

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:08 am

Banter without malice but let's not forget to heap copious amounts of VAT onto something to try to make something sound nothing like it is.

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