2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

[AGENT_CLARET]

How do you stop it?

Not my job to stop it, but it needs stopping, like I said earlier the club doesn't help itself by making tickets for under 9's available in the 6k points bracket when it's impossible for under 9's to have 6k points but they will be sold today to them

[shulgin]

Should be open to all season ticket holders then luck of the draw. End of. A bit like getting tickets for gigs used to be. Only fair way. I'm okay as I have enough points and like to go to a few away matches a season. Life circumstances mean I simply couldn't attend every away match a season, family first and all that. A retirement dream perhaps. But let's not all get all puritanical about the fairness of the system. Keep it simple.

[Burnley1989]

What has me having almost 10k points got to do with I personally think the loyalty points system is wrong when non loyalty points holders getting tickets through friends and relatives, I'm ****** off at the amount of under 17 year old that will be there that don't have 6k points

Why let that bother you, that's just silly. Its really not a big deal, or do you just hate children?

[ClaretTony]

Not my job to stop it, but it needs stopping, like I said earlier the club doesn't help itself by making tickets for under 9's available in the 6k points bracket when it's impossible for under 9's to have 6k points but they will be sold today

I’ve bought four tickets online today using four different Clarets Numbers. I can confirm all four have over 6,000 points and I can also confirm that all four tickets will be used by those whose Clarets Numbers I’ve used.

Had I got one for someone else and used one of those Clarets Numbers, how do you come up with a system to stop it?

I agree with you but it’s the people buying the tickets who are cheating the system. Other than collecting them on the day with proof of ID, not sure what can be done.

[jrgbfc]

Don't recall any moaning the last few years in the Prem when we couldn't even sell out at games like City or United.
The system isn't perfect, but short of Burnley sending an employee to do checks at the turnstiles I don't see how you stop people using somebody else's Clarets numbers.

[gandhisflipflop]

This has been done to death over the years, somebody buying tickets for home games puts money into the club, an away supporter doesn't except for any handling charges they may get from the opposition.

I’m talking about supporters who have season tickets at 6k points and go to away games will not have priority over a supporter who never goes to an away game but has a season ticket at 6k points. They both put money into the club, but one should have priority over the other. The dedication, time and effort should count for something.

[Goody1975]

I’m talking about supporters who have season tickets at 6k points and go to away games will not have priority over a supporter who never goes to an away game but has a season ticket at 6k points. They both put money into the club, but one should have priority over the other. The dedication, time and effort should count for something.

and today both of them will be able to buy tickets.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Should be open to all season ticket holders then luck of the draw. End of. A bit like getting tickets for gigs used to be. Only fair way. I'm okay as I have enough points and like to go to a few away matches a season. Life circumstances mean I simply couldn't attend every away match a season, family first and all that. A retirement dream perhaps. But let's not all get all puritanical about the fairness of the system. Keep it simple.

I don't think open to all season ticket holders first is the right way, there should be some sort of better loyalty system but I don't know what, this loyalty points system is a joke and doesn't work because it takes to long for children to get to 6k points, on average it takes over 12 years to get to 6k and that's if they don't up it

Maybe they should be sold in how long you've had a season ticket, like for example

1st sale to those who's had a season ticket for over 12 years

2nd sale to those who's had one for over 6 years

Child sales only if they have a season ticket and bought with one of the above

Not sure what the right answer is

[AGENT_CLARET]

I’ve bought four tickets online today using four different Clarets Numbers. I can confirm all four have over 6,000 points and I can also confirm that all four tickets will be used by those whose Clarets Numbers I’ve used.

Had I got one for someone else and used one of those Clarets Numbers, how do you come up with a system to stop it?

I agree with you but it’s the people buying the tickets who are cheating the system. Other than collecting them on the day with proof of ID, not sure what can be done.

Totally agree with you Tony

[AGENT_CLARET]

Don't recall any moaning the last few years in the Prem when we couldn't even sell out at games like City or United.
The system isn't perfect, but short of Burnley sending an employee to do checks at the turnstiles I don't see how you stop people using somebody else's Clarets numbers.

So then it's not a loyalty system is it

[jrgbfc]

There's still only Huddersfield, Luton and probably Blackpool that won't have got to general sale so far. Not like it's impossible to get to away games.

[4midable]

Got 4
No points at all
Its who you know. Same as every game

[jrgbfc]

So then it's not a loyalty system is it

So what do you suggest?

[4midable]

I am don't worry about that

Go corporate then

[claretandy]

Looks like they are covering up to 1k seats, first 3 rows and the end blocks will be empty.

[shulgin]

I think there needs to be some consideration to kids, hence my idea of just having it open to ST ticket holders. I don't mind a few families and kids in the away end. Usually means a few less potential p*ssed up prats who act like ten men.

[arise_sir_charge]

The club get all the money from ST sales.
They only get a percentage of any away ticket sales, couple that with away 'fans' who are just wanting to pick up a game of football. Not likely this season, but in plenty of years gone by, when we didn't sell our allocation, it happens.
There has to be a system, and no system is going to please everybody, just accept it's the best of a lot of imperfect options.

Couldn’t agree more. It seems folk only get upset if it doesn’t fit their individual circumstance. It’s a system used by most clubs and whilst it’s open to some abuse it’s as fair as it can be.

[Goody1975]

We must be getting more than 3.5k

The blocks shown on the BFC site show tickets in EB EC ED EE EF EH non in EA or EG yet, surley that whole side holds more than 3.5k


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EH is just spinning for me, can't view it. Could be that EG should have been listed?

Pretty sure when watching games this season the end block EA is left empty or very few seats are sold there.

[Lancasterclaret]

What has me having almost 10k points got to do with I personally think the loyalty points system is wrong when non loyalty points holders getting tickets through friends and relatives, I'm ****** off at the amount of under 17 year old that will be there that don't have 6k points

I won't be f**ked off by that, because Burnley FC needs those fans in the future

[Lancasterclaret]

Don't recall any moaning the last few years in the Prem when we couldn't even sell out at games like City or United.
The system isn't perfect, but short of Burnley sending an employee to do checks at the turnstiles I don't see how you stop people using somebody else's Clarets numbers.

This

I mean, we are doing well and away games will sell out

Always did, always will

Hey ho, will explain all this to kid when he gets home from school

[dushanbe]

I'm in the same boat as Lancaster, got more than enough points for myself, but my lad will have to wait until they get below 4000 points, which they probably won't. There isn't really a practical way of solving that particular dilemma though unfortunately.

[claretandy]

We must be getting more than 3.5k

The blocks shown on the BFC site show tickets in EB EC ED EE EF EH non in EA or EG yet, surley that whole side holds more than 3.5k


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180 seats times 20 rows is 3600.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Roll on Reading away when the ticket system will be deemed to be working fine

[ClaretInLeeds]

Not one person complained last season when we couldn’t sell out games less than 30 miles away.

[G0foste]

The system is generally fine, fans who go every week should be rewarded.

However not all families or people can afford to go to a lot of away matches (not always a choice), so I think some tickets should be held back for a ballet, other people and children still have a chance for some big matches.

The time period for loyalty points however points should be on a rolling 3 or 5 year timescale not life.

[arise_sir_charge]

The system is generally fine, fans who go every week should be rewarded.

However not all families or people can afford to go to a lot of away matches (not always a choice), so I think some tickets should be held back for a ballet, other people and children still have a chance for some big matches.

The time period for loyalty points however points should be on a rolling 3 or 5 year timescale not life.

Not many people can afford to go to the ballet.

[Targetman]

Exactly....how do you stop it?

I'm a member of the FA's England Travel Club. Many years ago when they first set up this club they had a similar problem with tickets for England away games.

You can only buy tickets for England away games if you are a member, to stop members passing on/selling their tickets to other people they adopted a new system.

Match tickets for away games were no longer posted out to members who had bought them, tickets can only be collected in the city where England are playing, the day before the game or on the day of the game.

Photo ID is required to collect your ticket, usually your membership card which has your photo printed on, or your passport. You can only collect your ticket in person, you cant collect for someone else.

This stopped people from selling their tickets on to non members or people who haven't got enough loyalty points to buy a ticket for that game.

Now all this takes quite a lot of organising including renting an office or hiring a room in a hotel in the city where England are playing.

All of this would be beyond Burnley's ticketing resources, particularly as it's the home club who get the monies from those match tickets.
And in any case I'm sure that Burnley fans wouldn't want to collect their match tickets on the day for away games.

However one thing that Burnley could implement, similar to what the FA do for England away tickets, is to have a rolling loyalty points system.
With England membership normally lasts for 2 years, from tournament to tournament. All points, or caps as the FA call them, gained by a member stay with them for 4 years, but 2 years worth of caps are taken away from your account at the start of a new membership period.

For example anyone renewing for the current membership 2022/24 will lose all caps earned from the period 2018/20. This allows new members to climb up the loyalty ladder and get nearer to members who are 'top-cappers'.

[Lancasterclaret]

The system is generally fine, fans who go every week should be rewarded.

However not all families or people can afford to go to a lot of away matches (not always a choice), so I think some tickets should be held back for a ballet, other people and children still have a chance for some big matches.

The time period for loyalty points however points should be on a rolling 3 or 5 year timescale not life.

I would pay serious money to watch Burnley fans trying to do "Swan Lake" for the chance of a Blackpool ticket

[1989_claret]

The club did this for Istanbul and Athens on the day of the games in 2018. Turn up, present passport and receive ticket.

It isn't feasible and i wouldn't want to have to do this for a standard UK away game.

[Jjjack]

Getting boring this, same thread every other week. The same people annoyed they don't have enough points and want the system to change to suit them. The system works fine as it is, 3 games for one season. Last season we were taking the smaller allocation off clubs and not even selling them out. Just shows that we are one bad season away from half of the moaners jumping ship again and back to watching us on telly.

[Clive 1960]

Before I moved abroad I had the 6000 points and used to travel to a lot of away games and some games if I didn't go I would let someone I knew use my card ( family) I could trust , but some games I went to and we had sold out I used to wonder how so and so got a ticket who hardly went away the same way possibly my family did or in the know at the ticket office like some knew . To me and I'm not saying it as I live abroad but there's got to be a way to let youngsters especially get a flavour of the away experience as they are the future. Also how do the big big clubs like Man Utd distribute there allocation with there fan base. UTC

[Jjjack]

Before I moved abroad I had the 6000 points and used to travel to a lot of away games and some games if I didn't go I would let someone I knew use my card ( family) I could trust , but some games I went to and we had sold out I used to wonder how so and so got a ticket who hardly went away the same way possibly my family did or in the know at the ticket office like some knew . To me and I'm not saying it as I live abroad but there's got to be a way to let youngsters especially get a flavour of the away experience as they are the future. Also how do the big big clubs like Man Utd distribute there allocation with there fan base. UTC

Youngsters can have a flavour of the away experience. We've made general sale for all but 2 games this season (Blackpool pending).

[quoonbeatz]

The answer, as I've said many times before, is to bin the 'loyalty' system and go back to ST priority, them gen sale.

Much more inclusive as the vast majority have an equal chance of getting tickets that way. There'd be far less arguments that way, perhaps apart from those, who think away support should be an exclusive club.

We're all loyal at the end of the day.

[Goody1975]

The answer, as I've said many times before, is to bin the 'loyalty' system and go back to ST priority, them gen sale.

Much more inclusive as the vast majority have an equal chance of getting tickets that way. There'd be far less arguments that way, perhaps apart from those, who think away support should be an exclusive club.

We're all loyal at the end of the day.

Yes but if we return to being ****, there are about 7,500 (season ticket holder in the mid 2000's) who are more loyal than others.

[thomaspaine]

There's still only Huddersfield, Luton and probably Blackpool that won't have got to general sale so far. Not like it's impossible to get to away games.

So true . Great support at Swansea , Bournemouth , Ipswich and Norwich …..but didn’t sell out ….

[jimbob21]

Whilst folk are bickering it’s worth nothing that’s it’s not even sold out…

[Jjjack]

So true . Great support at Swansea , Bournemouth , Ipswich and Norwich …..but didn’t sell out ….

Not sure if you're being facetious in listing the furthest games but there's games a lot close that went to general sale... Sheffield United, Coventry, Birmingham, West Brom, Stoke, Manchester United, Wigan, Preston.

[quoonbeatz]

Yes but if we return to being ****, there are about 7,500 (season ticket holder in the mid 2000's) who are more loyal than others.

And they'd get priority....

[Jjjack]

And they'd get priority....

There's clearly a need for some sort of priority system beyond just ST holders.

[quoonbeatz]

There's clearly a need for some sort of priority system beyond just ST holders.

What need is that?

[ŽižkovClaret]

Yes but if we return to being ****, there are about 7,500 (season ticket holder in the mid 2000's) who are more loyal than others.

TBF some of us p****d off abroad

[Jjjack]

What need is that?

Blackpool looks set to sell out tomorrow at the 4000 point mark. The need is to guarantee that those LOYAL fans with LOYALTY points can cherry pick the games they want to go to.

[Goody1975]

And they'd get priority....

Not necessarily but that's another argument.

How about about awarding loyalty points based on how poor we were that season?

Renewing after Cotterill's "nineteen game" season, or going to away games during that season should see loyalty points doubled.

[Dark Cloud]

I honestly think with the reasonable allocation for this game there won't be too many folks who really want a ticket actually missing out. I've not repeated my error with the Luton game and I got sorted straight away.
On the wider issue of the points system I honestly believe that whilst like all systems it will have it's flaws and anomalies, it's probably the best and fairest I can think of right now. The way to build up points isn't by attending Blackpool, Blackburn and PNE away, but by attending Norwich, Millwall, Bournemouth, Ipswich, Bristol City etc, etc, season on season where tickets are freely available. The people who make those kind of trips, as well renewing their season tickets (even when we're playing crap!) are the ones with all the points and that's probably why they're called loyalty points I guess. Maybe.

[claretandy]

Maybe we could hold back 20% and these could go in a ballot ?

[taio]

Rarely an issue getting away tickets and the current system is the best option. Don't agree with the idea of just prioritising to all season ticket holders. There must be a way of differentiating between a season ticket holder for say 30 years who attends all away games and a season ticket holder for one season who hasn't attended any away games yet.

[Jjjack]

Maybe we could hold back 20% and these could go in a ballot ?

Why when so many of them go to general sale.

[Lancasterclaret]

Not necessarily but that's another argument.

How about about awarding loyalty points based on how poor we were that season?

Renewing after Cotterill's "nineteen game" season, or going to away games during that season should see loyalty points doubled.

Yes

I've always argued that loyalty can only be judged on whether you went to places like Hartlepool in the depths of winter for a 0-0

By some complete coincidence, that would mean I qualify

[Somethingfishy]

The loyalty points are only 10 per game I'm right in thinking? Yet the gap between levels is 2000. Lets not kid ourselves that away games count for anything. The weighting is heavily towards those that buy season tickets.
The kids lose out for heavily in demand games. Unless they know someone with the points that doesn't want to go..which is naturally more difficult because it's in demand and even then the points would go to that person and the kids loyalty points still don't get added to.

It needs looking at regarding the kids with season tickets. Give them a chance.

[quoonbeatz]

Blackpool looks set to sell out tomorrow at the 4000 point mark. The need is to guarantee that those LOYAL fans with LOYALTY points can cherry pick the games they want to go to.

Apologies, missed the sarcasm.