Watching the opening minutes of Spuds v City ...

Is anyone else find it very familiar watching the way City play*, to the way Burnley play

I wonder why that is

Just posted similar,but you beat me to it.

Maybe not with errors like that ... Kane pounces and scores

Very similar, but Burnley are just that bit more entertaining

Well, he's done it.

Kane got She-Ra's record

Pxxxing about Norwich style cost City

Is that hitting the ball into the ground that Kane just did a deliberate thing?

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:46 pm

Kane got She-Ra's record

Maybe not

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:46 pm

Kane got She-Ra's record

Is it Shearer’s record? I thought it was Jimmy Greaves’.

chekhov wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:51 pm

Is it Shearer’s record? I thought it was Jimmy Greaves’.

Note my 2nd post checkov ...

Kane finally passes Jimmy's record, 200 PL goals as well, rare for a Spurs goal to be cheered by Arsenal fans but that one will be.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:53 pm

Kane finally passes Jimmy's record, 200 PL goals as well, rare for a Spurs goal to be cheered by Arsenal fans but that one will be.

Got a way to go to get She-Ra but he is still young enough

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:53 pm

Note my 2nd post checkov ...

Aye well I was trying to get in before you corrected yourself. Everyone like to be a smart alex.

Are Tottenham actually taking part in this game ?

1-0 in front and hardly had a kick.

City seem a bit slower than they used to be.
Too much sideways faffing about!

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:58 pm

City seem a bit slower than they used to be.
Too much sideways faffing about!

Definitely. And lost that electric wing play from the likes of Sane/Sterling.

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:56 pm

Are Tottenham actually taking part in this game ?

1-0 in front and hardly had a kick.

Spuds are 2 yellow cards up on City already too.

Different side without De Bruyne - they have a huge hole to fill when he hangs it up

I think there’s a valid argument that City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

Arsenal fans wanting a Spurs win ?

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:18 pm

I think there’s a valid argument that City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

Is that a serious observation ?

Jesus or Haaland ?....now let's think.

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:31 pm

Is that a serious observation ?

Jesus or Haaland ?....now let's think.

Who said it was a case of Jesus or Haaland? Although, Jesus is playing for a team at the top of the PL who have improved since signing him, and Haaland is playing for a team who are trying to chase them down and who have got worse since signing him.

Would you say that City are a better side now than they were last season?

If city are not going to use Haslands movement off the ball they might as well take him off.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:00 pm

Different side without De Bruyne - they have a huge hole to fill when he hangs it up

I'm sure the owner's cousin's half-brother's uncle who owns a company you've never heard and makes barely any profit of will find a couple of hundred million to sponsor the changing rooms for 4 years, allowing City to fill that gap without breaking FFP.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:18 pm

I think there’s a valid argument that City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

It’s a bit like when Ronaldo signed for United. I always said they were a worse team with him and they wouldn’t be better off with him, but then it was ‘yeah but look how many goals he’s scored’. Not only him leaving part of the revival but they look way better now.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:46 pm

It’s a bit like when Ronaldo signed for United. I always said they were a worse team with him and they wouldn’t be better off with him, but then it was ‘yeah but look how many goals he’s scored’. Not only him leaving part of the revival but they look way better now.

Yeah definite similarities, although I guess there was also the ‘bad apple’ element to Ronaldo, and the fact that his career was on the wane.

City seemed to share the goals around a lot more and were more potent even with a false nine.

Certainly wouldn’t rule them out of this game yet though, particularly now KDB is on the pitch.

Trouble in the camp at City? I can imagine Pep is the type of personality who'd start to grate on you after a few years. Very intense and constantly in your face.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:18 pm

I think there’s a valid argument that City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

We had a similar issue when we had Austin.
We did better without him than with, it's almost like we just over relied on Austin when he was playing to score the goals, it feels like City are the same.

Big save / big miss from Ederson / Kane

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:53 pm

Trouble in the camp at City? I can imagine Pep is the type of personality who'd start to grate on you after a few years. Very intense and constantly in your face.

I wonder if there is a similar thing happening at Liverpool with Klopp?

Don’t want to criticise Haaland as he’s a fantastic player, and not really being used to the best of his strengths. But Kane has offered ten times more to this game.

Whatever the reason, City are playing nothing like they were doing last year.

Kane definitely more able.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:53 pm

Trouble in the camp at City? I can imagine Pep is the type of personality who'd start to grate on you after a few years. Very intense and constantly in your face.

We don't want Pep to lose control at City and be replaced because we know who's name would be top of the list

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:26 pm

We don't want Pep to lose control at City and be replaced because we know who's name would be top of the list

Dyche ?

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:26 pm

We don't want Pep to lose control at City and be replaced because we know who's name would be top of the list

Keegan?

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:26 pm

We don't want Pep to lose control at City and be replaced because we know who's name would be top of the list

That's my fear.
Talking about the exact same thing last night to a friend.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:10 pm

I wonder if there is a similar thing happening at Liverpool with Klopp?

Probably, same as Dyche with us. I think there comes a point when things go stale and the players need to hear a new voice/different ideas.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:36 pm

Who said it was a case of Jesus or Haaland? Although, Jesus is playing for a team at the top of the PL who have improved since signing him, and Haaland is playing for a team who are trying to chase them down and who have got worse since signing him.

Would you say that City are a better side now than they were last season?

Have Arsenal really improved since Jesus joined them ?......Not for me.

Similar to Grealish at City, no positive contribution. Looks first and foremost for a foul each time he receives the ball. Needs to be replaced if City are to have a say in the final destination of the title.

Is Pep getting too arrogant? I think, when playing Spurs, De Bruyne would be the first name on the team sheet.

What a weekend for Man Utd. City and Arsenal lose and Newcastle only draw

Hasn't Guardiola said that winning the Champions league is his priority?

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:33 pm

Have Arsenal really improved since Jesus joined them ?......Not for me.

Similar to Grealish at City, no positive contribution. Looks first and foremost for a foul each time he receives the ball. Needs to be replaced if City are to have a say in the final destination of the title.

Well it’s fairly obvious that Arsenal have improved since Jesus signed, quite significantly as the league table will demonstrate. That’s clearly not down to one player in the same way that Man City’s regression can’t be pinned on one player. But Jesus suits the way that Arsenal play, whereas Haaland clearly doesn’t suit the way Ciry play. I’m not sure I saw him even touch the ball in the second half whereas Kane was instrumental for Spurs.

So to go back to my original point, there is definitely a valid argument to be had that Man City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:43 pm

Well it’s fairly obvious that Arsenal have improved since Jesus signed, quite significantly as the league table will demonstrate. That’s clearly not down to one player in the same way that Man City’s regression can’t be pinned on one player. But Jesus suits the way that Arsenal play, whereas Haaland clearly doesn’t suit the way Ciry play. I’m not sure I saw him even touch the ball in the second half whereas Kane was instrumental for Spurs.

So to go back to my original point, there is definitely a valid argument to be had that Man City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

So what is Haalands goals/game ratio since he came into the side ?......Does that not determine whether City are a stronger team with him in the side ?

I thought today Grealish and Bernardo were given too much of the ball by City making them look a little ponderous, especially in the first half. Mahrez has been in scintillating form of late but was only given 2 proper touches by his team mates in the first half and hit the bar with the second. Sometimes I can't get my head around Guadiola's thinking and team selection.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:43 pm

Well it’s fairly obvious that Arsenal have improved since Jesus signed, quite significantly as the league table will demonstrate. That’s clearly not down to one player in the same way that Man City’s regression can’t be pinned on one player. But Jesus suits the way that Arsenal play, whereas Haaland clearly doesn’t suit the way Ciry play. I’m not sure I saw him even touch the ball in the second half whereas Kane was instrumental for Spurs.

So to go back to my original point, there is definitely a valid argument to be had that Man City are a weaker team with Haaland in it.

Haaland doesn't suit the way city play he's been banging them for fun, odd games he blanks & now the sudden conclusions been reach that he unsuitable, somebody's been on the strong shandy's early doors, Kane might have a odd off game it doesn't mean he's not suited it just means he's not 100% consistent, no footballer is Pele wasn't.

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:50 pm

So what is Haalands goals/game ratio since he came into the side ?......Does that not determine whether City are a stronger team with him in the side ?

I would suggest that Haaland’s goals/game ratio determines his own personal form rather than whether City are a stronger team with him in it.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:55 pm

Haaland doesn't suit the way city play he's been banging them for fun, odd games he blanks & now the sudden conclusions been reach that he unsuitable, somebody's been on the strong shandy's early doors, Kane might have a odd off game it doesn't mean he's not suited it just means he's not 100% consistent, no footballer is Pele wasn't.

I’m not making a case that City are weaker with Haaland in the side because he blanked today - I’m suggesting it may be the case due to the fact that City don’t seem as good a team with him in it - their results could be used as evidence to back this point up.

City gone so far backwards this season.
Are all of Stones Dias and Laporte injured? Because Walker and Akanji are not at there level. I can’t believe he let Cancelo out on loan to play Ake down the left side, madness. De Bruyne looked like he was done at the highest level during the World Cup and he's done nothing to change my mind, can still play a beautiful pass but legs are gone.
Still I hate dynasties in football so I won’t cry if this one and the short Liverpool one are over.