RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:44 pm

Al-Dakhil voted Man of the Match in the ground, can anyone vouch for that?

Yes, excellent and still only 20.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:12 pm

Neither did Robbie Blake, Steven Fletcher, Zaroury, Andre Gray, Sam Vokes, Nick Pope or Danny Ings after a game and a half.

Tony Hancock had a good first game mind.

and thats why I said early days. With both Al-Dakhil and Ekdal you can see they look good players immediately. I'm just not seeing it yet with Foster.

So a win over Fleetwood postpones the Deadwood game. Making the possibility of a guard of honour more realistic

My word that was a tough watch some really poor performances tonight

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:13 pm

Are the semis still at Wembley? Don’t like getting ahead of mesen but plans need to be put in place.

Top drawer, Trev.

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 pm

and thats why I said early days. With both Al-Dakhil and Ekdal you can see they look good players immediately. I'm just not seeing it yet with Foster.

I agree-yes its harder when you are not playing with the starting 11, and quality does show. Listened to Radio Lancs and Paul Weller was scathing about Bastian-inaccurate 6 yards passes, a lack of urgency, and generally not in touch with his colleagues, and unlike some of the others he has played quite a bit this season

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:44 pm

Al-Dakhil voted Man of the Match in the ground, can anyone vouch for that?

He was my man of the match too - very assured and can see why we have got him.

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:19 pm

So a win over Fleetwood postpones the Deadwood game. Making the possibility of a guard of honour more realistic

Or they could beat Leicester and be in the quarters themselves.

well we can't be good every game but winning is a good habit

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:19 pm

My word that was a tough watch some really poor performances tonight

Only going off what I've read but it didn't sound pretty, however I suppose the main thing is we are through to round 5 having navigated a tricky tie.

clarethomer wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:25 pm

He was my man of the match too - very assured and can see why we have got him.

He stood out by a mile
Rest of team were very far off it

I was on and we were very poor (by our extremely high standards this season) but tbf Ipswich were excellent at stopping us playing and it couldn't have been a fluke as they did it first game too. Ipswich messed up in the end however because they became increasingly obsessed with wasting time with more than one eye on the extra time and penalties and increasingly less focused on actually trying to win, which I felt they really could have. Our subs definitely changed things too, but we've GOT to be better Saturday and next Tuesday for sure.

Well what i learned tonight or I’m starting to form more conclusions is. :-

Cullen is the heartbeat of this side , gets everything moving forward and with urgency. When he’s out and Jacks on his own we struggle. There 23 had a really good game and pretty much nullified jack.

Bastion - not sure what he brings to side - doesnt really seem to understand his role are position..

Twine needs time to settle made some good runs , has promise but not a first team starter yet.

Taylor , was slow and laborious first half, to be fair there wasn’t a lot of options in terms of movement up front for him.

Churlinov starts brightly for 10 mins and fades.

Tella probably the best first touch i have ever seen from anyone in claret and blue.

Al Dakhil can play and will get better , Beyer is our centre back lynch pin though and walks into our side, ahead of Taylor for me.

Vitinho didn’t have a good game but has done sufficiently previously to just pass this one off.

Foster too early to call, needs time to adjust to pace and shape , hopefully not a hammy and just cramp are a calf strain.

Bailey peacock, a very competent number 2.

Barnes probably playing the best football from him in the last two years.

JBG you can see when he cam on and balls into box why he got contract extension and well deserved.

I know it's not easy getting thrown in for the odd game but Bastien doesn't look up to it. Apart from the free kick against West Brom Twine has shown very little as well.

Poor compared to our usual standards! Too many changes so was very disjointed especially first half but once again we find a way to win.

Thought they were had some passages of play in first half. Second half they increasingly time wasted, espeiclaly the keeper and ref didn't get in top of it all. It was pretty sweet to score in extra time.

We didn't flow, making do many changes probably didn't help but you expect better after a fantastic start.

Onto the next round, hopefully a win as I'm away for the Ewood date

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 pm

and thats why I said early days. With both Al-Dakhil and Ekdal you can see they look good players immediately. I'm just not seeing it yet with Foster.

Foster looked better when Cullen and Brownhill came in and we moved the ball quicker and Tella went more central to run off him.

There were some poor performances tonight. Taylor (first half especially), Maatsen, Vitinhio, Twine, Bastien we’re all off it I thought, though Ipswich were aggressive in their press and tackling to be fair which rocked us at times.

I was on also.
I don’t think Bastien should be anywhere near the starting 11. Looks too heavy and slow to me.
Roberts was poor, Vitinho marginally better.
Worst game I’ve seen from Maatsen.
Really don’t like Taylor at CB.
Twine looks lightweight but probably just needs games.
Relieved we won!

On an Ipswich perspective on that showing will be more than comfortable in the championship next year and i hope they come up. Well drilled and organised and adapt at the dark arts of the game to slow the game down and halt momentum. (Were no diff here). There 23 was excellent but tired ata end. I hope they come up because on the 2 games ive seen they’re a club back on the rise.

To be fair there any following should also be applauded as i suspect they wont get home till after 3am at least. A team with confidence and belief is what i witnessed tonight

Maybe puts paid to the idea that our second eleven would walk the Championship. Good to get through a tricky tie though, and always difficult when there’s so many changes and inevitably less preparation than for a league game.

Really liked Ipswich no 27, a proper old-school CF, but skilful and no slouch for a big lad. Great battle with Al Dakhil.

Hirst I think.

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:50 pm

Really liked Ipswich no 27, a proper old-school CF, but skilful and no slouch for a big lad. Great battle with Al Dakhil.

Hirst I think.

Yeah, he was very good.

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:50 pm

Really liked Ipswich no 27, a proper old-school CF, but skilful and no slouch for a big lad. Great battle with Al Dakhil.

Hirst I think.

Son of former Sheffield Wednesday striker David.

Foster looked like came off with cramp not a pulled muscle, he certainly was snippered. Probably should have come off sooner as he looked off the pace and adapting to the English game.

He needed directing from the bench, particularly when defending.

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:58 pm

So what have we learnt?
Bastien is not going to be a hit?
Twine still needs more time?
Foster has a way to go before he;s ready for English football?
Al D looks a good find?
We still rely on some of the old Prem players for a killing edge?

Not a lot.
The players need more game time, they got it.
Bastien coming in for stick again. People forget you can't pass a ball if no one is showing for it. Any one of those players would have benefited from playing amongst the regulars. Playing amongst others needing game time just makes it harder.
VK wasn't surprised it was hard going 1st half, realistically neither should we.
It sounds like Foster is going to take time to adapt to the system, and the tempo required, which makes it better we brought him in now and not the summer.
We need to cut these lads some slack.
UTC

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:38 pm

I was on and we were very poor (by our extremely high standards this season) but tbf Ipswich were excellent at stopping us playing and it couldn't have been a fluke as they did it first game too. Ipswich messed up in the end however because they became increasingly obsessed with wasting time with more than one eye on the extra time and penalties and increasingly less focused on actually trying to win, which I felt they really could have. Our subs definitely changed things too, but we've GOT to be better Saturday and next Tuesday for sure.

Completely agree, they were better than most of the champ teams I've seen. But like many other side's we've played they seemed to lose a bit of belief, the time wasting was appalling also and why the refs don't clamp down on it I'll never know, should have bee at least ten minutes of added time.

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:50 pm

Really liked Ipswich no 27, a proper old-school CF, but skilful and no slouch for a big lad. Great battle with Al Dakhil.

Hirst I think.

On loan from Leicester

Ipswich were typical of a league one side
Constant fouling and wining
Charlie Taylor was poor but got better.Lyle made the first goal passing to Nathan Tella
Twine was disappointing. Barnes cameo and Tellas goals lit up a ahite game

clarethomer wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:25 pm

He was my man of the match too - very assured and can see why we have got him.

I thought he was just ok abit negative for me every pass was backwards

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:50 pm

Really liked Ipswich no 27, a proper old-school CF, but skilful and no slouch for a big lad. Great battle with Al Dakhil.

Hirst I think.

He was on loan at Rovers in the first half of the season and described by a mate as one of the worst strikers they’d ever seen for them.

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 pm

and thats why I said early days. With both Al-Dakhil and Ekdal you can see they look good players immediately. I'm just not seeing it yet with Foster.

I’d suggest slotting in at centre half, as a natural ball playing centre half, is a lot easier in this team than at centre forward. The movement, pressing and positioning is way more involved in that position, in this system. Add to that having to link up with square pegs in round holes like Vitinho on the left wing, rather than the usual Zaroury and Benson etc.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:49 pm

And, as you'd expect, the discussion moves on to what a load of sh1te the crowd are.

I rarely post about the crowd. In fact last night may even have been my first on the topic for years.

I was just surprised how little slack the players were given by a fair chunk of those around me every time a mistake was made.

How big was the Ipswich following, anyone?

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:49 am

How big was the Ipswich following, anyone?

Not sure of actual numbers, but it was very impressive I have to say considering the distance involved, it was a Tuesday night, they were serious underdogs and they have a far more important game coming up Saturday.

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:57 am

I thought he was just ok abit negative for me every pass was backwards

Similar. Defensively he looked very solid and assured, but his passing was slow and almost always backwards. That wasn't just him though, Taylor was the same and BPF seemed to have to always have to take two touches before playing the ball.

Obviously have to give him time and the signs were very bright.

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:57 am

I thought he was just ok abit negative for me every pass was backwards

Think most of the team suffered with that at times. Missed Zaroury and Benson on the wings. Combined with Jay and Barnes and Cullen missing , we can see who are good at getting the ball into play more forward.

He was the best defender on the pitch without a doubt for me.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:04 pm

Check his posts........he's the runaway leader in the Belmtard of the year contest.

Still a long way behind you