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Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:38 pm

Coke Zero and diet coke are the same thing.

Stop kidding yourselves otherwise.

Drink more tea.

Yours sincerely,

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Commy » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:41 pm

I don't think they are. I think the diet has saccharin in and I can't stand the taste of saccharin so I drink Coke Zero. I've got that used to it now that I don't even like ordinary Coke any more.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:43 pm

Commy wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:41 pm
I don't think they are. I think the diet has saccharin in and I can't stand the taste of saccharin so I drink Coke Zero. I've got that used to it now that I don't even like ordinary Coke any more.
They both contain aspartame as the main sweetener. There is no saccharin in either.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:49 pm

They really aren’t but well done in getting the attention that you desperately crave

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:51 pm

Yeah.
Theyre both sh!t.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by IanMcL » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:52 pm

My partner drinks Zero. If not available Diet, if that is all there is. I have sipped both. Not same taste. Zero better.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by johnnyjones » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:57 pm

Both shite, Pepsi max is daddy in this field
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:00 pm

johnnyjones wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:57 pm
Both shite, Pepsi max is daddy in this field
Cherry Pepsi max and now you're talking.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Bosscat » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:00 pm

Disgusting stuff ... will stick to Beer 👍🙂👍
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:01 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:49 pm
They really aren’t but well done in getting the attention that you desperately crave
Go buy two bottles. Have somebody mix them up, then try and tell them apart. You won't be able to.

There are two ingredients that are slightly different but theyre chemical ingredients that perform the same function.

The main difference is the marketing of each product.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:03 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:52 pm
My partner drinks Zero. If not available Diet, if that is all there is. I have sipped both. Not same taste. Zero better.
Next time you have a bottle of both, do yourselves a blind taste test.

Remember to report back!

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by claretburns » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:05 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:00 pm
Cherry Pepsi max and now you're talking.
Got a sodastream recently with Cherry Pepsi Max as one of my syrups, tastes even better than the usual stuff.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:06 pm

Diet Pepsi trumps Diet Coke, Coke Zero and Pepsi Max for me. The pure cane sugar Pespi you can get in the States is cracking though.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by whiffa » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:08 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:03 pm
Next time you have a bottle of both, do yourselves a blind taste test.

Remember to report back!
I drink both, a lot. I can very easily taste the difference.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:09 pm

I had a Dandelion & Burdock yesterday, delicious !
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:09 pm

I vote for Tizer or Dandelion and Burdock.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:11 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:03 pm
Next time you have a bottle of both, do yourselves a blind taste test.

Remember to report back!
Coke Zero tastes of nothing, it's just flat. Caffine free.

Diet Coke has more fizz in.

I don't drink much of either anymore as I'm over 40. Far better drinks about.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:12 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:49 pm
They really aren’t but well done in getting the attention that you desperately crave
"Craving attention" - it's remarkable what people take umbrage at.

There's something very primal that Coca Cola are tapping into with these indistinguishable drinks that appeals to a core element of our psyche. People like yourself clearly don't like that being brought into your conscious thinking but allow yourself a second or two to think what you could do with that information?

Yes, there are a couple of tiny tweaks in the ingredients between the two. The recipe for Diet Coke has changed a couple of times. Like the major brands they're constantly tweaking and looking tighten margins etc.

So when they discovered a way to make no-sugar cola taste ever-so-slightly a little bit more like the original product, why do you suppose they didn't simply improve the recipe for Diet Coke? "Diet Coke - New Improved Recipe! Tastes more like the "real thing"!"

Why didn't they do that?

OK, you might be able to assemble a bunch of crack tasters - professional food tasters with tastebuds as sensitive as a jogger's nipple - and put them in darkened room where they might be able to discern the tiniest of differences between the two products. But do you think that the average consumer could tell the difference? Do you think it would make a difference when the main purpose of the drink is to top up people's caffeine and wash down cheap fast food?

They'd quickly realise that the products are essentially the exact same product. Coca Cola would know it too. A good taster would advise that there is a tiny difference between the two products but that it's so marginal that they are essentially the same.

And yet we live in a world of binary no-sugar Coca-Cola choices. You can buy "Coke Zero" or you can buy "Diet Coke" and two things are exactly the same slop. So why do we have two of them?

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:12 pm
"Craving attention" - it's remarkable what people take umbrage at.

There's something very primal that Coca Cola are tapping into with these indistinguishable drinks that appeals to a core element of our psyche. People like yourself clearly don't like that being brought into your conscious thinking but allow yourself a second or two to think what you could do with that information?

Yes, there are a couple of tiny tweaks in the ingredients between the two. The recipe for Diet Coke has changed a couple of times. Like the major brands they're constantly tweaking and looking tighten margins etc.

So when they discovered a way to make no-sugar cola taste ever-so-slightly a little bit more like the original product, why do you suppose they didn't simply improve the recipe for Diet Coke? "Diet Coke - New Improved Recipe! Tastes more like the "real thing"!"

Why didn't they do that?

OK, you might be able to assemble a bunch of crack tasters - professional food tasters with tastebuds as sensitive as a jogger's nipple - and put them in darkened room where they might be able to discern the tiniest of differences between the two products. But do you think that the average consumer could tell the difference? Do you think it would make a difference when the main purpose of the drink is to top up people's caffeine and wash down cheap fast food?

They'd quickly realise that the products are essentially the exact same product. Coca Cola would know it too. A good taster would advise that there is a tiny difference between the two products but that it's so marginal that they are essentially the same.

And yet we live in a world of binary no-sugar Coca-Cola choices. You can buy "Coke Zero" or you can buy "Diet Coke" and two things are exactly the same slop. So why do we have two of them?
TLDR

Yes I can tell them apart, quite easily as well
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:11 pm
Coke Zero tastes of nothing, it's just flat. Caffine free.

Diet Coke has more fizz in.

I don't drink much of either anymore as I'm over 40. Far better drinks about.
Coke Zero has caffeine in it.

But yes, there are far, FAR better drinks out there.

No.1 has to be a cuppa tea.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:15 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm
TLDR

Yes I can tell them apart, quite easily as well
I know. A whole paragraph!

Hope you manage to give it another go when you have a whole minute to spare. :)

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:16 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm
TLDR

Yes I can tell them apart, quite easily as well
And remember to do a blind taste test.

No reason not to put your tastebuds to the test. Go on - challenge yourself!

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:20 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm
Coke Zero has caffeine in it.

But yes, there are far, FAR better drinks out there.

No.1 has to be a cuppa tea.
I've just checked because when it first came out it was caffeine free, the zero was marketed for Sugar and Caffeine.
Now it looks like you can have Coke Zero with Caffeine or without it.

I did say I didn't drink much of it anymore, but like you say I can't see there being much difference if the caffeine is in.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 pm

Here's how I'd recommend doing a blind taste test if anybody has waaaay too much time and wants to challenge their taste buds.

1. Buy a bottle of both Diet and Zero coke.
2. Set up about 10 to 12 glasses underneath pieces of paper marked with individual numbers
3. You leave the room. You shouldn't see any of the next steps until you come back into the room.
4. Your spouse/partner/captive tosses a coin for each glass. Heads = Zero. Tails = Diet. It doesn't matter if they're all heads or all tails. The heads/tails thing ensures decent randomness in the samples.
5. They mark a piece of paper (kept well out of your sight) which number glass has which drink
6. The bottles are put back in the fridge, out of your sight
7. You come back into the room and take a sip of each, determining which is which.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:22 pm

I remember a while back, someone was doing one of those blind taste tests they do for wine (the sort that ends up with the £6 bottle from Aldi winning). But then they also did one (not blind) where they dyed the white wine as red. Some of the wine buffs tasting it actually reviewed it as a red wine. Amazing what your eyes will convince you of.

I'm probably with Rowls on this.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:20 pm
I've just checked because when it first came out it was caffeine free, the zero was marketed for Sugar and Caffeine.
Now it looks like you can have Coke Zero with Caffeine or without it.

I did say I didn't drink much of it anymore, but like you say I can't see there being much difference if the caffeine is in.
I recall it used to be caffeine free too. Wasn't sure about that as I read the ingredients in the supermarket last night.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by distortiondave » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:26 pm

Flammable and inflammable are the same thing, but overlook and overlook mean the opposite of each other.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:26 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:22 pm
I remember a while back, someone was doing one of those blind taste tests they do for wine (the sort that ends up with the £6 bottle from Aldi winning). But then they also did one (not blind) where they dyed the white wine as red. Some of the wine buffs tasting it actually reviewed it as a red wine. Amazing what your eyes will convince you of.

I'm probably with Rowls on this.
It's fascinating stuff.

The wine industry knows all this and they now avoid blind taste competitions, especially international ones. There's so much psychology to it that is completely distinct from the actual taste of the product.

One of the interesting things about this (what I presumed harmless thread) was one of the prickly responses it got.

I suppose, in hindsight, the OP prompted it by implying people are being conned or duped. People don't like to imagine that might be the case.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:28 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:26 pm
Flammable and inflammable are the same thing, but overlook and overlook mean the opposite of each other.
I once had a crazy stay at the Overlook Hotel.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by distortiondave » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:30 pm

All work and no play makes Rowls a dull boy.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:31 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:30 pm
All work and no play makes Rowls a dull boy.
Precisely!

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:33 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:09 pm
I had a Dandelion & Burdock yesterday, delicious !
Top tier pop!

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:36 pm

I spoke to the head of UK Coca Cola at an event where they launched Coke Zero a few years back (it was at a work event on our site). He told us (as there were a few listening) that Coke Zero is formulated to taste more like full fat coke and it is definitely different to Diet Coke. The plan back then was to merge the marketing colours over time (from black to red - which has happened) to the point where they can withdraw Coke original from sale and Zero will become regular Coke.

I suspect the sugar tax meant that plan changed their plans a little, but Coke Zero is not the same as Diet Coke

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Greenmile » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:37 pm

Diet Coke is for girls and women who are watching their weight.

Coke Zero is for real skydiving, motor-racing, snowboarding (but not skiing) MEN (who are watching their weight).

Disclaimer - I don’t like / drink cola of any type
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:49 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:36 pm
I spoke to the head of UK Coca Cola at an event where they launched Coke Zero a few years back (it was at a work event on our site). He told us (as there were a few listening) that Coke Zero is formulated to taste more like full fat coke and it is definitely different to Diet Coke. The plan back then was to merge the marketing colours over time (from black to red - which has happened) to the point where they can withdraw Coke original from sale and Zero will become regular Coke.

I suspect the sugar tax meant that plan changed their plans a little, but Coke Zero is not the same as Diet Coke
I'd take what they said with a pinch of salt. Not to say that might not have been true, just that there's almost certainly a lot more to it than that.

They even openly acknowledge the binary marketing strategy aimed at men/women these days.

It reminds me of Penn and Teller doing the cup and balls trick with transparent plastic glasses - knowing how it's done doesn't stop it working.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:01 pm

I never touch the stuff, in any of it's guises. It's utter junk /crap and so bad for you. I'll stick to my real ale thanks, as I know what's good for me. It's almost a whole food.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by yTib » Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:43 pm

next week: tap water and bottled water are both water.

or something equally captivating.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by clarethomer » Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:50 pm

Carling versus Urine? They’re the same thing aren’t they?

Budweiser verses urine following eating sugar puffs?

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:52 pm

yTib wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:43 pm
next week: tap water and bottled water are both water.

or something equally captivating.
That IS equally captivating!

Think about it: Mankind has created an ingenious system of underground pipes that pump clean and safe drinking water into our homes.

It's clean, efficient, it tastes brilliant (especially in Burnley) and the cost is piddling. Think about how many of our ancestors spents large portions of every day lugging water around - only for it to end up poisoning and killing them.

It's a modern day mirable that, if your average pre Victorian Briton could see it, they wouldfall to their knees in astonishment and gratitude, weeping tears of joy.

And what do we do?

We buy water in tatty plastic bottles that litter the environment and we willing pay hundreds of times the price of the tap water for the privilege. It's another insight into the human psyche that tells us more about ourselves than the product we're buying.

It's truly fascinating.
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by NRC » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:23 pm

The red button on the US Presidential desk has been removed
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:33 pm

NRC wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:23 pm
The red button on the US Presidential desk has been removed
Replaced by a red chord in case the new incipient "has a fall"?

(I just hope the next one is better than the last two)

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by 4midable » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:36 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:38 pm
Coke Zero and diet coke are the same thing.

Stop kidding yourselves otherwise.

Drink more tea.

Yours sincerely,

Rowls xx
Both taste like crap

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by KRBFC » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm

That's like saying all tea bags taste the same when prepared the same, simply not true.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:50 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm
That's like saying all tea bags taste the same when prepared the same, simply not true.
How do you "prepare" your cola???

edit - ;)
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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:51 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm
That's like saying all tea bags taste the same when prepared the same, simply not true.
Oh but tea bags are remarkably consistent. Another modern day miracle that most people aren't even aware of, let alone take for granted.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:52 pm

4midable wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:36 pm
Both taste like crap
Tea tastes crap or both kinds of cola taste crap?

Tea is nectar.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by 4midable » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:54 pm

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:52 pm
Tea tastes crap or both kinds of cola taste crap?

Tea is nectar.
All 3

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by Rowls » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:13 pm

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by deanothedino » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:49 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:11 pm
Coke Zero tastes of nothing, it's just flat. Caffine free.

Diet Coke has more fizz in.

I don't drink much of either anymore as I'm over 40. Far better drinks about.
Coke Zero isn’t caffeine free. Coke Zero Sugar Zero Caffeine is, as the name suggests, caffeine free.

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Re: Coke Zero & Diet Coke are the Same Thing

Post by deanothedino » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:52 pm

I could tell the difference in a blind taste test between Pepsi Max, Diet Pepsi, Diet Coke and Coke Zero - I have no hesitation in making this claim.

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