Muric

[taio]

Apparently Maatsen has just unfollowed Muric on Instagram.

You're a card

[harpers_perm]

Truth hurts , he was injured because of a pathetic pass from Muric

Im not suggesting you are intellectually challenged or you may need help crossing the road but if so I’m here for you.

That’s either elite level trolling or if not you are a dribbling clown, if so, you do children’s parties?

[Vegas Claret]

Class on and off the pitch

[KRBFC]

It's just more new account trolls, either Rovers fans on the wind up or old banned posters returning with a vengeance to help burn the house down.

[Raconteur]

Yes , gives the ball away yet again , resulting in an injury to one of our players, brilliant.

I can't remember you on here calling Josh Cullen for tackling THB and injuring him and putting him out for a few months.

[Conroysleftfoot]

I can't remember you on here calling Josh Cullen for tackling THB and injuring him and putting him out for a few months.

Was just going to post this myself.

[Claret53]

The way in which Muric is asked to play the ball is highly tactical and involves, inevitably, a degree of risk. But the rewards, in the sense of creating space, are there for all to see. It took a bit of adjustment at the start of the season not to have the heebijeebies because it was such a contrast to what we have been used to seeing - this is no criticism of Pope or SD, it was just a different way of playing in a more difficult league.
His quality of passing is as good as any keeper I have seen in any league.
His general goalkeeping also is showing continued improvement and is a tribute to the coaches and Muric himself.
It’s rather surprising that some posters can’t recognise this.

[KRBFC]

Here's where these GKs were at a similar age as Muric....

Alisson (Internacional in the Brazil league)
Nick Pope (Bury on loan)
Ederson (Benfica B team)
Edouard Mendy (Marseille B team 2nd choice)
Tom Heaton (Wycombe/Rochdale on loan)
Emi Martinez (Rotherham loan)
Robert Sanchez (Rochdale loan)
Jose Sa (Maritimo)

The lad isn't doing too bad for himself, huge time to develop.

[CoolClaret]

I actually think Muric has the highest ceiling out of any of our players which is saying something.

He’s cool as ice, can easily see him being a Barca/Real/Top European club keeper in a few years.

[Casper2]

I can't remember you on here calling Josh Cullen for tackling THB and injuring him and putting him out for a few months.

Maybe you have a bad memory

[Casper2]

Im not suggesting you are intellectually challenged or you may need help crossing the road but if so I’m here for you.

That’s either elite level trolling or if not you are a dribbling clown, if so, you do children’s parties?

No Muric has got the monopoly on clown gigs

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I can't remember you on here calling Josh Cullen for tackling THB and injuring him and putting him out for a few months.

He made a single comment about it and moved on.

He didn't proceed to flog Cullen over it every chance he had.

I think we can see who his agenda is against

[Casper2]

Is it possible Prefeot & Casper2 are the same moron?
If not they should maybe get a room.........Odious.

How often do you have to replace your keyboard ?

The same childish name calling is not a good look for a pensioner

[Taffy on the wing]

Troll!.........get back under your rock.

[Vincent'sCap]

He was OK yesterday not a lot to do,still don't rate the fella though

[Leisure]

He was OK yesterday not a lot to do,still don't rate the fella though

I don't think he'll be too worried about that!

[Leisure]

Here's where these GKs were at a similar age as Muric....

Alisson (Internacional in the Brazil league)
Nick Pope (Bury on loan)
Ederson (Benfica B team)
Edouard Mendy (Marseille B team 2nd choice)
Tom Heaton (Wycombe/Rochdale on loan)
Emi Martinez (Rotherham loan)
Robert Sanchez (Rochdale loan)
Jose Sa (Maritimo)

The lad isn't doing too bad for himself, huge time to develop.

Not according to Caspar2, he's already written him off!

[Vincent'sCap]

I don't think he'll be too worried about that!

I really couldn't give a monkeys whether he's worried or not
I just don't rate the guy and I'm not alone in thinking that

[Leisure]

I really couldn't give a monkeys whether he's worried or not
I just don't rate the guy and I'm not alone in thinking that

Well obviously the manager does and his opinion matters more than yours!

[NewClaret]

Here's where these GKs were at a similar age as Muric....

Alisson (Internacional in the Brazil league)
Nick Pope (Bury on loan)
Ederson (Benfica B team)
Edouard Mendy (Marseille B team 2nd choice)
Tom Heaton (Wycombe/Rochdale on loan)
Emi Martinez (Rotherham loan)
Robert Sanchez (Rochdale loan)
Jose Sa (Maritimo)

The lad isn't doing too bad for himself, huge time to develop.

Great post.

Underlines how it’s possible to develop potential in to an elite keeper.

[KRBFC]

He was OK yesterday not a lot to do,still don't rate the fella though

Another poster with less than 100 posts who hates Muric..... quite an army developing all with barely any previous posts on this forum. It's almost like they only log in to this site and post to tell us how shite Muric is. Coincidence or the same person on different accounts?

[Bigvince]

This place is being killed by trolls.

They soon go away, if no one gives them air by responding to them!

[quoonbeatz]

Great post.

Underlines how it’s possible to develop potential in to an elite keeper.

Great, except that Muric is 24 so the list should be:

Alisson - Roma
Nick Pope - Charlton
Ederson - City
Edouard Mendy - Reims
Tom Heaton - Cardiff
Emi Martinez - Wolves on loan
Robert Sanchez - Brighton
Jose Sa - Porto

Not that it really matters, Muric is doing brilliantly and his the potential to be as good as any of those listed.

[RammyClaret61]

Read this paragraph on a Facebook group report.




“Huddersfield were almost gotten anther chance due to that man Muric….he passed the ball out and it almost intercepted by a Huddersfield player lt just glanced past the players outstretched foot. From this Burnley go on the attack and win a corner” ???

So it was an INCH PERFECT PASS OUT BY MURIC…
That set up a Burnley attack. But let’s clutch at the smallest straw to have a go at Muric?? Alos is the OUTSTRECHED FOOT of the Huddersfield player going to control the ball… ???

[TheFamilyCat]

It's time to ask the really important question about Muric: if asked, would he give us a dance?

[NewClaret]

Read this paragraph on a Facebook group report.




“Huddersfield were almost gotten anther chance due to that man Muric….he passed the ball out and it almost intercepted by a Huddersfield player lt just glanced past the players outstretched foot. From this Burnley go on the attack and win a corner” ???

So it was an INCH PERFECT PASS OUT BY MURIC…
That set up a Burnley attack. But let’s clutch at the smallest straw to have a go at Muric?? Alos is the OUTSTRECHED FOOT of the Huddersfield player going to control the ball… ???

Unbelievable. There’s a reason I’m not in FB!!

I hope someone responded and pointed out the error of his ways?

[Nori1958]

I take it FB is for under 10s?

[RammyClaret61]

Unbelievable. There’s a reason I’m not in FB!!

I hope someone responded and pointed out the error of his ways?

The bottom paragraph is my reply. The writer got back to me telling me “the pass was to close for comfort” & “the outstretched foot may not have controlled the ball, but potentially lost us possession”
He also added “ from a coaching point of view, Muric had other options, so was this the best one given the element of risk”?

I still believe a completely unnecessary paragraph, whinging about something that didn’t happen.

[Nori1958]

The bottom paragraph is my reply. The writer got back to me telling me “the pass was to close for comfort” & “the outstretched foot may not have controlled the ball, but potentially lost us possession”
He also added “ from a coaching point of view, Muric had other options, so was this the best one given the element of risk”?

I still believe a completely unnecessary paragraph, whinging about something that didn’t happen.

I don't know which incident the article is talking about, but there was one pass out in the first half which was nearly intercepted, whether that led to a corner I don't know, but it may have.
I agree that he doesn't always pick the easiest pass, sometimes playing the ball to Cullen who was under pressure and had to quickly play the ball to a full back, who could have had the ball played to him in the first place without risk.

So perhaps the FB poster was correct, but just unable to put it into a readable format

[Vincent'sCap]

Another poster with less than 100 posts who hates Muric..... quite an army developing all with barely any previous posts on this forum. It's almost like they only log in to this site and post to tell us how shite Muric is. Coincidence or the same person on different accounts?

It's Eddie Shoestring the master sleuth

[arise_sir_charge]

I don't know which incident the article is talking about, but there was one pass out in the first half which was nearly intercepted, whether that led to a corner I don't know, but it may have.
I agree that he doesn't always pick the easiest pass, sometimes playing the ball to Cullen who was under pressure and had to quickly play the ball to a full back, who could have had the ball played to him in the first place without risk.

So perhaps the FB poster was correct, but just unable to put it into a readable format

The ball to Cullen under pressure who then gives it to the full back is played entirely on purpose. It’s that kid of pass that creates the extra space.

[Bordeauxclaret]

12 clean sheets now is it this season.

I think Heaton had 20 in the last promotion season and that was possibly starting every game.

[Nori1958]

The ball to Cullen under pressure who then gives it to the full back is played entirely on purpose. It’s that kid of pass that creates the extra space.

Iam fully aware of that. But sometimes an opposition player puts more pressure on Cullen which makes it riskier than 90% of the times that ball is played, on those occasions what's wrong with playing it elsewhere?

[Casper2]

Troll!.........get back under your rock.

Oh dear , there’s a block facility you know , I suggest you use it instead of calling people names , like I said it’s not a good look for an OAP .

[Casper2]

Not according to Caspar2, he's already written him off!

I haven’t written anyone off , just pointing out a fact , which was also pointed out in the match report.

[roperclaret]

Iam fully aware of that. But sometimes an opposition player puts more pressure on Cullen which makes it riskier than 90% of the times that ball is played, on those occasions what's wrong with playing it elsewhere?

It’s all about pulling the other team out of shape. A simple ball straight to the full back just means the oppo can shuffle across and more times than not the fullback will play it back to the keeper or to the winger who’s under pressure. The ball to Cullen means they have to move up the pitch creating a big gap in midfield for either Brownhill, JGB or more recently one of our full backs to exploit.

[NewClaret]

The bottom paragraph is my reply. The writer got back to me telling me “the pass was to close for comfort” & “the outstretched foot may not have controlled the ball, but potentially lost us possession”
He also added “ from a coaching point of view, Muric had other options, so was this the best one given the element of risk”?

I still believe a completely unnecessary paragraph, whinging about something that didn’t happen.

What this person fails to understand then, is that VK asks Muric to play that pass. That’s why he plays it so often and looks for it every time. It’s why Cullen or Cork always run back and create an angle for it.

It’s how he, and the team, are coached to play. Hard to fathom that someone who watches the game enough to write an article on it cannot see that.

[Nori1958]

It’s all about pulling the other team out of shape. A simple ball straight to the full back just means the oppo can shuffle across and more times than not the fullback will play it back to the keeper or to the winger who’s under pressure. The ball to Cullen means they have to move up the pitch creating a big gap in midfield for either Brownhill, JGB or more recently one of our full backs to exploit.

At the risk of repeating myself, I know that.
However there are occasions where the attacker puts more pressure on Cullen, or for some other reason is closer to him than normal, making the chance of the attacker winning the ball, and being clear on goal greater. Why risk that happening, when for once he could play a simple ball to another player and we retain possession. Why give the opposition any advantage?

[NewClaret]

At the risk of repeating myself, I know that.
However there are occasions where the attacker puts more pressure on Cullen, or for some other reason is closer to him than normal, making the chance of the attacker winning the ball, and being clear on goal greater. Why risk that happening, when for once he could play a simple ball to another player and we retain possession. Why give the opposition any advantage?

I agree there’s a point on timing, but I don’t recall him getting any decisions wrong in recent games so cannot see why it’s being debated now.

If we get promoted this will become harder when teams will press quicker and will be more likely to punish any mistakes that are made. Muric will need to be more careful with the pass but equally he wouldn’t be entirely to blame if it went wrong - he’s playing a system the manager wants him to play and our midfield will likely be equally culpable for not creating enough space/the right angle for the pass.

[Nori1958]

I agree there’s a point on timing, but I don’t recall him getting any decisions wrong in recent games so cannot see why it’s being debated now.

If we get promoted this will become harder when teams will press quicker and will be more likely to punish any mistakes that are made. Muric will need to be more careful with the pass but equally he wouldn’t be entirely to blame if it went wrong - he’s playing a system the manager wants him to play and our midfield will likely be equally culpable for not creating enough space/the right angle for the pass.

It's being debated because someone posted about it.

I agree at times next season it will be impossible to play. Lots of Premier league teams leave 3 attackers on the edge of the box to stop the goalkeeper playing short passes

[roperclaret]

Which means he’ll be able to use his ability to hit mid and long passes more!

[Nori1958]

Which means he’ll be able to use his ability to hit mid and long passes more!

Possibly, though some will argue he should be playing the short pass to Cullen

[Devils_Advocate]

At the risk of repeating myself, I know that.
However there are occasions where the attacker puts more pressure on Cullen, or for some other reason is closer to him than normal, making the chance of the attacker winning the ball, and being clear on goal greater. Why risk that happening, when for once he could play a simple ball to another player and we retain possession. Why give the opposition any advantage?

If the opposition press us and Muric passes direct to the full back then the full back will be facing inwards rather than forwards and the opposition can quickly pen the full back into that corner of the pitch limiting our passing options resulting in us more likely needing to go long or give away the ball.

We take a risk using Cullen because that completely opens up the centre and both sides of the pitch and so the opposition cant cover all the space meaning there is usually a full back free who can receive the ball facing up the pitch with time and space to run into.

Its a simple case of risk and reward and by the ball going into Cullen then out to a full back it really opens things up and gets us past the opposition press

[Nori1958]

If the opposition press us and Muric passes direct to the full back then the full back will be facing inwards rather than forwards and the opposition can quickly pen the full back into that corner of the pitch limiting our passing options resulting in us more likely needing to go long or give away the ball.

We take a risk using Cullen because that completely opens up the centre and both sides of the pitch and so the opposition cant cover all the space meaning there is usually a full back free who can receive the ball facing up the pitch with time and space to run into.

Its a simple case of risk and reward and by the ball going into Cullen then out to a full back it really opens things up and gets us past the opposition press

Iam not talking about every time
Just the odd occasion when perhaps the opposition player is level with Cullen for example

[Devils_Advocate]

Iam not talking about every time
Just the odd occasion when perhaps the opposition player is level with Cullen for example

Neither am I but its still the same principle of risk versus reward just that the level of risk VK and the team see as worth taking is just greater than what you and probably many others think.

[quoonbeatz]

The bottom paragraph is my reply. The writer got back to me telling me “the pass was to close for comfort” & “the outstretched foot may not have controlled the ball, but potentially lost us possession”
He also added “ from a coaching point of view, Muric had other options, so was this the best one given the element of risk”?

I still believe a completely unnecessary paragraph, whinging about something that didn’t happen.

The other thing on that is that it wasn't a risky pass, it was absolutely the right ball to play. The issue was that Muric topped it, like he often does when he's playing it along the ground, so it bobbles up and loses speed. Nothing to do with coaching, just execution.

There was a similar pass to Maatsen, a few weeks ago that fell perfectly between two outstretched legs and Maatsen was a way through the middle. One of the passes of the season.

[Taffy on the wing]

Oh dear , there’s a block facility you know , I suggest you use it instead of calling people names , like I said it’s not a good look for an OAP .

Sad, sad Troll.

[Hipper]

There's also the issue of Muric being given the ball by our players when he has few options and is put under pressure. This happened against Huddersfield and, for the first time I can recall, he rolled the ball out for a throw in rather then a very risky pass to a colleague.

The lad is learning as are all the players. Mistakes will happen but they are noticeably getting fewer despite teams knowing how we play.

[NewClaret]

Iam not talking about every time
Just the odd occasion when perhaps the opposition player is level with Cullen for example

I agree with you, there are times where that ball shouldn’t be played, but I can’t remember a time where he’s played it and Muric’s error has led to a goal (the one I can recall was because Cullen took a bad touch or played a subsequent bad pass - can’t remember).

It’ll be targeted next year though, so he’ll need to learn when it’s on and what to do when it’s not (a big long hood that comes straight back as us isn’t the right idea either).

[KRBFC]

At the risk of repeating myself, I know that.
However there are occasions where the attacker puts more pressure on Cullen, or for some other reason is closer to him than normal, making the chance of the attacker winning the ball, and being clear on goal greater. Why risk that happening, when for once he could play a simple ball to another player and we retain possession. Why give the opposition any advantage?

The defender would have to go through the back of Cullen to get the ball, it's a clearly important part of our build up, suck one of their players onto Cullen who then quickly receives and plays it to the fullback.