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Good point

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:44 pm

Millwall celebrating like they've won a trophy
Half a team missing, all that travel - cracking effort and a good point
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Re: Good point

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:45 pm

How did we draw that one ?

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Re: Good point

Post by Rowls » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:46 pm

It is a good point, even though it doesn't feel like it.

Shame we couldn't have put a few of our chances away earlier in the game but, like you say, it's a good point.
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Re: Good point

Post by Neil » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:46 pm

Disappointing how the game played out but we've all become a little too expectant and greedy!
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Re: Good point

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:49 pm

Great point - humbles us a bit as well.

Congrats to Milwall, the Den seemed loud!!

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Re: Good point

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:50 pm

Could of won 4 nil, Barnes could of scored an hatrick on another night I would of taken a draw before the game, nice point away and our unbeaten run continues and we have a run of easier games coming up
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Re: Good point

Post by RVclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:51 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:49 pm
Great point - humbles us a bit as well.

Congrats to Milwall, the Den seemed loud!!
Just mentioned their fans in my player ratings, very impressive home support that. Fair play.

Good point overall, 16 clear of 3rd, still unbeaten and heading into 3 games against the bottom 3.
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Re: Good point

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:52 pm

Four points from Luton and Millwall away, can't complain.
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Re: Good point

Post by tiger76 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:52 pm

Good point considering our injuries, and on another day we win easily.

Teams pushing for the play-off's are going to make it difficult.

For context it's a point more than Sheff Utd got there on Saturday.
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Re: Good point

Post by Damo » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:53 pm

It was a good point.
I reckon it would have been all 3 but for all the nonsense after we scored.
We should have killed the game off instead of feigning injury and wasting time.
Kompany should have subbed Twine off straight after his embarrassing Swan dive
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Re: Good point

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:53 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:52 pm
Four points from Luton and Millwall away, can't complain.
This.

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Re: Good point

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:55 pm

Would've taken a point before a ball was kicked.

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Re: Good point

Post by 4midable » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:56 pm

Love to see milwall win the playoffs
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Re: Good point

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:57 pm

4midable wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:56 pm
Love to see milwall win the playoffs
Millwall in the Prem would be a lovely sight. Plus us, and Luton.

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Re: Good point

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:57 pm

A point is fine but I don’t like the way we just stop playing around 80 mins into a game if we’re winning it. We’ve done well with some good game management in the past but tonight we were inviting long ball after long ball and set piece after set piece from Millwall which is exactly their strength.

No complaints in the end because of the above and our missed chances. But it could and should have been 3.

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Re: Good point

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:58 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:52 pm
Four points from Luton and Millwall away, can't complain.
some will !!!!!!
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Re: Good point

Post by brexit » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm

4midable wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:56 pm
Love to see milwall win the playoffs
I agree they would cause carnage amongst the london teams

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Re: Good point

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm

Just leaving the ground.

How we’ve contrived to only draw that I will never know.

We were by far the better side but Millwall were always in it at 1-0, and their direct style had been an issue in the latter stages of the first half. The warning was there.

Instead of going for it and getting the second, we have tried to see the game out instead.

The blatant time wasting was embarrassing, particular Twine jumping around. Twine’s lack of physicality is an issue, for me.
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Re: Good point

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:01 pm

Think some fans need to relax a bit and lose their sense of entitlement.

It’s mad how success increases expectations - let’s not turn into plastic fans like, can’t expect teams to just roll over against us.
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Re: Good point

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:03 pm

Difficult to see an harder game between now and the end of the season.
Of course like everyone else I suspect, wondering whether we would have won if we hadn’t sat back as much as we did but they are almost unbeatable at home at the moment . A bit like us really.
Yes a more than good point

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Re: Good point

Post by Jimmymaccer » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:03 pm

Could be worse……….could be a Liverpool fan😀
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Re: Good point

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:04 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:01 pm
Think some fans need to relax a bit and lose their sense of entitlement.

It’s mad how success increases expectations - let’s not turn into plastic fans like, can’t expect teams to just roll over against us.
I can’t help feel you’ve posted this on the wrong thread because there are only balanced, honest appraisals of the game as it unfolded on this one.
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Re: Good point

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:05 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm
The blatant time wasting was embarrassing, particular Twine jumping around. Twine’s lack of physicality is an issue, for me.
If anyone said at the beginning of the season "pick a game, any game that you would play Twine in after hardly playing and an injury lay off" I would hazard a guess that Millwall away on a Tuesday night would be in the bottom 3 on that list. He would have learned a lot in that game tonight imho
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Re: Good point

Post by 4midable » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:05 pm

We were miles the better side at milwall away
Top 4 side
These lower league sides will get battered

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Re: Good point

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:05 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm
Just leaving the ground.

How we’ve contrived to only draw that I will never know.

We were by far the better side but Millwall were always in it at 1-0, and their direct style had been an issue in the latter stages of the first half. The warning was there.

Instead of going for it and getting the second, we have tried to see the game out instead.

The blatant time wasting was embarrassing, particular Twine jumping around. Twine’s lack of physicality is an issue, for me.
Thought Twine had a good game.
Think the challenge broke, impacted his boot, which would hurt.
Hence he changed boots.

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Re: Good point

Post by tiger76 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:06 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:03 pm
Could be worse……….could be a Liverpool fan😀
Now that was a collapse, 2-0 up at home and contrive to lose 5-2.
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Re: Good point

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:07 pm

4midable wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:05 pm
We were miles the better side at milwall away
Top 4 side
These lower league sides will get battered
it's bonkers - Rovers are 4th with a minus 2 goal difference ! Taking nothing for granted though against Huddersfield, under Warnock and they have a decent record at the Turf from memory.

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Re: Good point

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

Twine did alright in spells to be fair . Won the ball back quickly in the first half to set the counter up and a good chance which Zaroury couldn’t take with a bouncing ball from barnes . With more game time in there I think he would notch a fair few goals from arriving late in the box

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Re: Good point

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

Feels a bit like a defeat cos the equaliser was so late, but
it's a really good point.
Got to take full advantage of the next 3 games against the bottom 3 starting with Colins mob Saturday.
And yes, 4 points from Luton and Millwall away is brilliant.

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Re: Good point

Post by RVclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm
Just leaving the ground.

How we’ve contrived to only draw that I will never know.

We were by far the better side but Millwall were always in it at 1-0, and their direct style had been an issue in the latter stages of the first half. The warning was there.

Instead of going for it and getting the second, we have tried to see the game out instead.

The blatant time wasting was embarrassing, particular Twine jumping around. Twine’s lack of physicality is an issue, for me.
You seem to mention Twine’s physicality every time he plays. I’ve no idea why because it’s not looked an issue once. A player like him who drifts around finding pockets of space doesn’t need to be that strong. Did well tonight and that tackle wiped him out, it broke his boot.
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Re: Good point

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:01 pm
Think some fans need to relax a bit and lose their sense of entitlement.

It’s mad how success increases expectations - let’s not turn into plastic fans like, can’t expect teams to just roll over against us.
No-one is expecting teams to roll over us.

I’m happy with the 4 points.

But we’ve made a conscious decision to hang on to the 1-0 lead when the warning signs were there that Millwall would bombard us late on. Make no mistake, the time wasting was embarrassing.

Hopefully we’ve learned a few lessons tonight.

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Re: Good point

Post by Belial » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:59 pm
Just leaving the ground.

How we’ve contrived to only draw that I will never know.

We were by far the better side but Millwall were always in it at 1-0, and their direct style had been an issue in the latter stages of the first half. The warning was there.

Instead of going for it and getting the second, we have tried to see the game out instead.

The blatant time wasting was embarrassing, particular Twine jumping around. Twine’s lack of physicality is an issue, for me.
Agree Twine looks like he needs to work in his strength

One of those games tonight... We had a few chances not finished, hit the woodwork, and got done by the follow up to a set piece bobbling around the area. Not a bad point but slightly miffed it wasn't three

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Re: Good point

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:10 pm

Meh. Thought Milwall were pretty poor and caused us far fewer problems than Luton. Unfortunately when we head into the last 10 minutes of games at just 1-0 up we seem to invite pressure onto ourselves by defending deep and not looking after the ball. We invited that equaliser on tonight as it didn’t appear that Milwall had enough to create a scoreable opportunity.

That said, games every few days, a lot of travelling, a lot of niggles and absentees so keeping the unbeaten run going, after a good win on Saturday, is a big positive.
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Re: Good point

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:11 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm
No-one is expecting teams to roll over us.

I’m happy with the 4 points.

But we’ve made a conscious decision to hang on to the 1-0 lead when the warning signs were there that Millwall would bombard us late on. Make no mistake, the time wasting was embarrassing.

Hopefully we’ve learned a few lessons tonight.
Quite a significant few are, had a lot of injuries and new partnerships in defence against a very organised in form team on the back of another challenging away game

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Re: Good point

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm
You seem to mention Twine’s physicality every time he plays. I’ve no idea why because it’s not looked an issue once. A player like him who drifts around finding pockets of space doesn’t need to be that strong. Did well tonight and that tackle wiped him out, it broke his boot.
I’ve mentioned Twine’s physicality twice. Once at Ipswich and again tonight at Millwall.

He’s a tidy player with nice touches.

But I feel his physicality is an issue. That’s my opinion.

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Re: Good point

Post by RVclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:12 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:12 pm
I’ve mentioned Twine’s physicality twice. Once at Ipswich and again tonight at Millwall.

He’s a tidy player with nice touches.

But I feel his physicality is an issue. That’s my opinion.
Fair enough. Only 23 so I’m sure can work on that side of things.

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Re: Good point

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:14 pm

Thought we were pretty dominant bar 5/10 minute spells in the first and second half. Bit more composure with our finishing and that could have been 4 or 5.

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Re: Good point

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:14 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:04 pm
I can’t help feel you’ve posted this on the wrong thread because there are only balanced, honest appraisals of the game as it unfolded on this one.
My comment isn’t specific to the thread - more what I’m seeing on socials/WhatsApp chats etc

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Re: Good point

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:12 pm
Fair enough. Only 23 so I’m sure can work on that side of things.
I’m sure he can.

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Re: Good point

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm
You seem to mention Twine’s physicality every time he plays. I’ve no idea why because it’s not looked an issue once. A player like him who drifts around finding pockets of space doesn’t need to be that strong. Did well tonight and that tackle wiped him out, it broke his boot.
He appeared to be holding his knee from my end of the lower tier. Although I did notice he changed his boots straight after. :?:

The Millwall I chatted to after were happy with a point, and so we’re most of the clarets. We should and could have taken all 3, but no complaints with 4 points from the last 2 games.
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Re: Good point

Post by CombatClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:17 pm

By far the better side tonight but counts for nought if you don't take your chances. Leaves you open to a scrappy corner canceling it out.
Didn't feel the Millwall fans were that great until the equalizer, prior to that just occasional bouts of that horrible drone noise.

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Re: Good point

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:17 pm

Thought we could have used some fresh legs in the last 15 minutes. Would have liked to see Obafemi. Regardless, would have taken a point before the game.

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Re: Good point

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:17 pm

The only issue ie had with twines brief appearances so far has been that ridiculous rolling around he did .

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Re: Good point

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:18 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm
You seem to mention Twine’s physicality every time he plays. I’ve no idea why because it’s not looked an issue once. A player like him who drifts around finding pockets of space doesn’t need to be that strong. Did well tonight and that tackle wiped him out, it broke his boot.
Not sure I concur with your assessment of the tackle . Could the number of times he rolled over led to his boot becoming damaged?
Personally I don’t want to see that type of play acting
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Re: Good point

Post by RVclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:19 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:18 pm
Not sure I concur with your assessment of the tackle . Could the number of times he rolled over led to his boot becoming damaged?
Personally I don’t want to see that type of play acting
Looked a like he cleaned him out to me, similar to the one Benson got done with, fair challenge but strong, was worried it could have been the same damage as Benson, luckily not!

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Re: Good point

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:19 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:17 pm
The only issue ie had with twines brief appearances so far has been that ridiculous rolling around he did .
It was very strange that almost as if he thought he’d badly injured himself.

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Re: Good point

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:21 pm

Imagine falling over in the street and then doing that

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Re: Good point

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:22 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:19 pm
It was very strange that almost as if he thought he’d badly injured himself.
Well he is going to injure himself if he keeps rolling around like he has been shot

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Re: Good point

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:22 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:19 pm
It was very strange that almost as if he thought he’d badly injured himself.
this, i think his injury has mentally done him, needs a run of games to show him he is ok

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Re: Good point

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:26 pm

Let’s hope it’s a one off then and we don’t see him repeat it as he gets mentally stronger , eh?

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