Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by NRC » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

that's a shame. I would rather beat them with 11 on the field, though if we don't buck up our ideas we might not beat 10!

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Red is correct. Cullen is on his tiptoes, just about to leave the ground, and he kicks him just below his chin.
Rachel Brown is effing awful. She has got so much wrong.
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Greekclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Unbelievably harsh on the young lad there. Cullen definitely bought that foul, never a red

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Awful decision. Nothing in that. I feel for the lad.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Refs just made our lives a bit easier and once they start to tire 2nd hald we should run away with this one

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by chekhov » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Very harsh that one. Boot wasn’t even chest high!

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by CombatClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Harsh that.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

he was actually trying to pull his boot away...

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by burnleymik » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

No intent,but looked dangerous

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

Ridiculous red card.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by HiThere » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Red is correct. Cullen is on his tiptoes, just about to leave the ground, and he kicks him just below his chin.
Rachel Brown is effing awful. She has got so much wrong.
I kept turning the volume down every 10 minutes, to the point I can hardly hear anything. She's not far off Michael Owen as the worst co-commentating in the history of the game.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Commy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

Didn't look to be near his head. I don't think they were happy the way Cullen suddenly got up and walked off after looking like he had been shot.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm

Rachel Brown is appalling researched co-commentator.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 pm

Greekclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Unbelievably harsh on the young lad there. Cullen definitely bought that foul, never a red
Dont think it was Cullen's fault as he still got a boot in the face, just never a sending off

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by harpers_perm » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 pm

Good for us but that is an absolute joke. He was pulling away from the collision.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by distortiondave » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 pm

Really harsh. I'd be livid for Ashley Barnes to be sent off like that - the young lad knew he'd given a foul away and immediately apologised. Ref should have given himself a bit longer to think, he went to his pocket right away.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Casper2 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Red is correct. Cullen is on his tiptoes, just about to leave the ground, and he kicks him just below his chin.
Rachel Brown is effing awful. She has got so much wrong.
Called Fleetwood , Morecambe at the start :roll:

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Greekclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 pm
Dont think it was Cullen's fault as he still got a boot in the face, just never a sending off
He went down holding the top of his head. He got kneed in the chest at best. The Fleetwood lad pulled his foot away well before contact

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Neil » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:24 pm
Dont think it was Cullen's fault as he still got a boot in the face, just never a sending off
Nowhere near his face.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm

I am totally underwhelmed by Foster. He has to improve a lot to deserve a place in our team. Not picking on him but he doesn’t look good enough on or off the ball

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by dansch » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:23 pm
Rachel Brown is appalling researched co-commentator.
She is beyond bad. I was peeved before a ball was kicked when I learnt she was on Comms cus she's always terrible!

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm

Can't believe so many people think that wasn't a red card.
I feel sorry for the lad as there certainly wasn't intent, but regardless its dangerous play, red card all day long.
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm

Neil wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm
Nowhere near his face.
You could tell by the initial reaction of the Fleetwood player that he caught him

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm

I don’t think this is really the game for Obafemi AND Foster. I think we need a bit more 1 on 1 threat rather than straight up pace. I’d be looking to bring on Churlinov to be more direct and run at them.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Greekclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm
Called Fleetwood , Morecambe at the start :roll:
I thought I heard that.

She also stated that one of Zarourys effort which went flying into crowd was our first shot target.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:27 pm

Commy wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:09 pm
Have they fallen out with Zaroury? He is making some good runs and they are ignoring him.
Taylor isn't Maatsen.
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by HiThere » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Greekclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm
I thought I heard that.

She also stated that one of Zarourys effort which went flying into crowd was our first shot target.
:lol: :lol:

I missed that (couldn't hear her as the volume was on level 2 - of 100)

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Replay from the Jimmy Mac made it look an awful challenge with studs up

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm
Can't believe so many people think that wasn't a red card.
I feel sorry for the lad as there certainly wasn't intent, but regardless its dangerous play, red card all day long.
Yep, seen as endangering an opponent I guess.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by NRC » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

ok, back to the game itself.... we're just not playing smart. They playing 532 and we're literally parked in their half 235 - in other words its a man-to-man mark-up. We need to expand the field of play backwards towards our own goal to create more space, and both Foster and Obafemi need to be dropping, a la Jayrod/Barnes to break the back five line

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:26 pm
Can't believe so many people think that wasn't a red card.
I feel sorry for the lad as there certainly wasn't intent, but regardless its dangerous play, red card all day long.
Exactly right
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Commy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Grimsby 2-0. Another pen.
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Ipreferaflan » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm

Awful decision. Rare that I feel bad when a player is sent off against Burnley, but that's one of the worse I've seen. He's backing out of the challenge and apologies immediately.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by tiger76 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:29 pm

Harsh red in my view, however we now need to make the extra man count 2md half, all of the ball but we've not really tested their keeper enough, final ball is lacking in our usual quality.

TBF to Fleetwood they've made it tough but if we keep pushing they'll surely tire as the night wears on.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:29 pm

Bit soft.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:29 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm
I am totally underwhelmed by Foster. He has to improve a lot to deserve a place in our team. Not picking on him but he doesn’t look good enough on or off the ball
Give him time. He has looked lost, so has Obafemi, together they look even worse.
It shows the benefit of Barnes, knowing the system, knowing his team mates, but it takes time.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by fatboy47 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm

Anyone thinking that's not a red card basically knows bugger all about football in this century.

And I include the dimwits doing the commentary.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Commy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:27 pm
Taylor isn't Maatsen.
Not just Taylor. Twine has had the ball numerous times and not played it to him.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by HiThere » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm

One thing - the player himself doesn't really seem to argue his case. When that happens it's often because he knows it's the correct decision. So I'll need to see more replays.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by NRC » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm

penalty Grimsby - scores
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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm

Greekclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:25 pm
He went down holding the top of his head. He got kneed in the chest at best. The Fleetwood lad pulled his foot away well before contact
He grabbed his head as an instictive reaction to being caiught by his boot in his face. If something catches you unexpected a natural reaction is to crouch down and cover your head.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Clive 1960 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:31 pm

Yellow all day long never a red and ref ruined the game.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by andyh » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:31 pm

Not a red for me

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Quicknick » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:32 pm

Ipreferaflan wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 pm
Awful decision. Rare that I feel bad when a player is sent off against Burnley, but that's one of the worse I've seen. He's backing out of the challenge and apologies immediately.
What was he doing with his foot so high?

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Commy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:32 pm

We always look disjointed in the cup games due to all the changes.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Casper2 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:32 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:30 pm
Anyone thinking that's not a red card basically knows bugger all about football in this century.

And I include the dimwits doing the commentary.
Correct on all counts

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:33 pm

Fleetwood have played as well, if not better than many Championship clubs at Turf Moor this season

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by warksclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:33 pm

Its a fine balance between playing your strongest 11 and giving fringe players a chance. Dont think you could get an easier game for Twine, Odefami and Foster to show what they can do, but it does not all look connected when we get in the final third. Think VK will need to bring Tella and Barnes on sooner rather than later

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by HiThere » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:33 pm
Its a fine balance between playing your strongest 11 and giving fringe players a chance. Dont think you could get an easier game for Twine, Odefami and Foster to show what they can do, but it does not all look connected when we get in the final third. Think VK will need to bring Tella and Barnes on sooner rather than later
With them going down to 10 men I don't think it has to be sooner rather than later. He can give it 15 minutes and see how we get on vs 10 men before making changes.

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Re: Clarets v Fleetwood Match Thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:35 pm

Looks like Ricers v Grimsby in round six !!!

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