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Eurovision

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:04 am

After years of being a joke and hostile towards The ÙK, suddenly it's the dog's watsits. I'm pleased for the publiciy for Ukraine but oh, how big bucks change things.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:25 am

I would sooner walk around Ewood with a nail in my shoe.
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Re: Eurovision

Post by 1882Clarets1882 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:26 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:25 am
I would sooner walk around Ewood with a nail in my shoe.
I'd sooner watch you !
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Re: Eurovision

Post by Falcon » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am

Yes there is an element of politics to it.

BUT

If you don't enter a decent song you will not win. We had what the kids would call a banger last year so we did well. Not heard this year's effort yet.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:31 am

Falcon wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am
Yes there is an element of politics to it.

BUT

If you don't enter a decent song you will not win. We had what the kids would call a banger last year so we did well. Not heard this year's effort yet.
Was on the Zoe Ball breakdast show on Radio 2 this morning ... very Eurovisiony ... a bit Meh really

...https://youtu.be/tJ21grjN6wU

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:41 am

The song 'we've' chosen will be lucky to finish in the top ten. It's ten-a-penny landfill pop-trash, and I'm being too kind here. If you're going to enter a generic pop song, at least have something that makes the song stand out from the other dross.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Falcon » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:42 am

Happen we don't want to host two years in a row...

It's not unusual for a host country to enter some cookie-cutter blandness to avoid having the expense the following year.

#ItsAllAConspiracy

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Re: Eurovision

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:44 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:25 am
I would sooner walk around Ewood with a nail in my shoe.

Not the most catchy of song titles, you would hope our entry was titled something a bit shorter
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Re: Eurovision

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:55 am

Falcon wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am
Yes there is an element of politics to it.

BUT

If you don't enter a decent song you will not win. We had what the kids would call a banger last year so we did well. Not heard this year's effort yet.
Ive seen a (to me plausible) explanation of our much improved score last year as being because UK became more popular in many (especially eastern/northern) European countries because of our relatively strong support of Ukraine against the generally hated Russians.

Could be because it was a good song though for all I know.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:16 pm

Falcon wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:42 am
Happen we don't want to host two years in a row...

It's not unusual for a host country to enter some cookie-cutter blandness to avoid having the expense the following year.

#ItsAllAConspiracy

There's a lot of money in it nowadays for the hosting city. Thousands of fans along with the media circus and its entourage, even from countries that aren't represented. And it goes on for a full week as well. Who said kitsch wasn't popular...

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Billyblah » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:58 pm

The costs are a bit of a head scratcher for me. Depending on which website you look at it would appear that the BBC will be contributing £10m and Liverpool Merseyside Region £4m.
Income will include that from the Eurovision village at Pier Head and of course from the ticket sales from the various heats and final all of which instantly sold out.
Given that the event uses existing venues £14m seems an awful lot of dosh to blow on an overload of hey diddle diddles and even more bing bang bongs.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:40 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:44 am
Not the most catchy of song titles, you would hope our entry was titled something a bit shorter
"If I had the wings".....

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Re: Eurovision

Post by joey13 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:38 pm

https://youtu.be/jzYzVMcgWhg

Best eurovision song ever

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Belgianclaret » Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:00 pm

UK eurosong is rubbish
Belgian's eurosong is even worse
As are most eurosongs...

For some crazy reason I've a soft spot for this one though ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNVRMabSTU

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:04 pm

Our song last year was good with a strong, charismatic vocalist. This year’s is none of the above…

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Re: Eurovision

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:25 pm

I might be in the minority but I found last year's UK entry good, and although it's a bit bland what I've heard of this year's is catchy enough, might be a bit generic though to do as well as Sam Ryder fared, though how much of that success was based on the politics who knows.

Not really a huge Eurovision fan myself, however with all due respect I doubt this board fits the demographic of most Eurovision devotees.
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Re: Eurovision

Post by dougcollins » Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:35 pm

When it comes to Eurovision, I tend to find some people protesteth too much.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:13 pm

I care more about Owen Coyle than I do this. And TBH, I gave up worrying about him years ago.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by timshorts » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:33 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:04 pm
Our song last year was good with a strong, charismatic vocalist. This year’s is none of the above…
Yes. This is about right. Prior to that we had years of dreadful songs that would not have got through the semi final stage if we did not get a bye.

It's "a song for Europe" so it isn't necessarily going to equate to the same **** that is in our chart right now or we'd just enter Ed sheeran and win. The rest of Europe would probably hear it and judge it to be what it actually is.
And there's no point doing "what won last year" as they normally see through that straight away. This uk entry ought to end up on the right hand side of the board and it wouldn't matter which country submitted it.

The competition is supposed to be a bit of fun, and those that enjoy it, dress up, go, have parties, etc generally are happy to take part.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by karatekid » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm

timshorts wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:33 pm

The competition is supposed to be a bit of fun, and those that enjoy it, dress up, go, have parties, etc generally are happy to take part.
Yes, and those that have absolutely no interest in it whatsoever come on this messageboard, click on the thread title of a subject that they have no interest in the slightest or despise and then take the time to post this fact so we all know. ;)

I think it is a good nights entertainment that comes around once a year. I know thats not the cool thing to say but there it is.
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Re: Eurovision

Post by dougcollins » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:08 pm

karatekid wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm
Yes, and those that have absolutely no interest in it whatsoever come on this messageboard, click on the thread title of a subject that they have no interest in the slightest or despise and then take the time to post this fact so we all know. ;)

I think it is a good nights entertainment that comes around once a year. I know thats not the cool thing to say but there it is.
Exactly. Take it for what it is, have a few beers, have a laugh.
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Re: Eurovision

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:19 pm

Eurovision is great - good fun, some decent songs now and then, Graham N is a laugh doing the commentary and the voting is actually quite exciting. If you don’t like it, just avoid it.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:20 pm

The music is mostly rubbish and the show is the most obscenely gaudy thing you'll see on British TV, but this is the stuff that makes it. If it took itself seriously, hardly anyone would watch it in the UK.

Get some score sheets printed off. Crack some beers open and have a different Saturday evening for this tawdry once-a-year event. Oh, and have a laugh too. It will do some of you good.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by dsr » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:32 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:41 am
The song 'we've' chosen will be lucky to finish in the top ten. It's ten-a-penny landfill pop-trash, and I'm being too kind here. If you're going to enter a generic pop song, at least have something that makes the song stand out from the other dross.
Did you mean "lucky to finish with 10 points"? If I was betting over/under 10, I'd bet under. Regardless of support for Ukraine, I doubt we'll get enough sympathy votes to register.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:34 am

Every year it seems we’ve hit Rock Bottom with our entry.
And then after a while, you think you’re beginning to like the song - Ooh Ah, Just A Little Bit.
It can take while to be certain - best not rush Making Your Mind Up.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:02 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:40 pm
"If I had the wings".....
Far more catchy and one the whole country can join in with

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:08 am

dsr wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:32 am
Did you mean "lucky to finish with 10 points"? If I was betting over/under 10, I'd bet under. Regardless of support for Ukraine, I doubt we'll get enough sympathy votes to register.
You are probably right, regarding under 10 points. Last year we had a good song, by Eurovision standards, and finished second. This year we have gone back to norm.

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Re: Eurovision

Post by Falcon » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:12 am

I've now listened to our entry.

It seems we've slipped back into trying to enter a song that sounds like one another country would enter into Eurovision.

Last year the song sounded like something that comes from the UK, but this is cookie-cutter Europop and historically we've got crap scores when trying that approach.

Mid-table at best I reckon.

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