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Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:33 pm
by tiger76
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:11 pm
Freakishly, 8 of Crystal Palace’s last 10 fixtures are against sides currently sitting below them in the PL table. A couple of wins and Hodgson will be lauded for turning things around.
That's why many expect them to pull away from trouble, you do have to have some sympathy for Viera, yes they've endured a winless run, however in that period they've faced most if not all of the top sides.
And now when they are facing a winnable run of games Viera gets the bump before being allowed to turn things around which he probably would have.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:36 pm
by daveisaclaret
I think it's a really reasonable sacking and a sensible replacement.
The fixtures so far this year have fallen really unfortunately but to not win any of them, go 3 games without a shot on target and scored 5 in 12 doesn't exactly tell anyone they were going to turn it around once the fixture list eased up, does it?
Putting someone you know and trust in to steer them to safety (which he will) is a lot more sensible than trying to find your new long term manager at this state of the season. As a certain Mr Pace could probably attest...
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:54 pm
by Jakubclaret
tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:33 pm
That's why many expect them to pull away from trouble, you do have to have some sympathy for Viera, yes they've endured a winless run, however in that period they've faced most if not all of the top sides.
And now when they are facing a winnable run of games Viera gets the bump before being allowed to turn things around which he probably would have.
If you had any confidence in him winning any of them games not sure why you think he would have done, they was literally seconds away from beating Brentford & everton beat them convincingly & forest beat them narrowly they did get some good results against the teams in & around them but also some bad 1s so it's a stretch to say probably I'd use possibly, add in some reckless sending offs not knowing his best 11 & chopping & changing when some players were playing well it's easy to see why they got rid of him, if they do go down it's not to say that would have been any different had he stayed because there's nothing to suggest it.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:12 pm
by Swizzlestick
Awful appointment devoid of ambition that could come back to bite them.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:15 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:32 pm
If our board decided to appoint a ‘youngish manager’ and a change in style and direction, and 18months later re appoint the guy that they had initially sacked that employs a style they tried to move away from then I’d be asking serious questions.
Almost a shame Dyche has found a new job
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:18 pm
by tiger76
Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:54 pm
If you had any confidence in him winning any of them games not sure why you think he would have done, they was literally seconds away from beating Brentford & everton beat them convincingly & forest beat them narrowly they did get some good results against the teams in & around them but also some bad 1s so it's a stretch to say probably I'd use possibly, add in some reckless sending offs not knowing his best 11 & chopping & changing when some players were playing well it's easy to see why they got rid of him, if they do go down it's not to say that would have been any different had he stayed because there's nothing to suggest it.
No guarantees Palace would have started winning under Viera, however their record against the lower half sides is decent so far this season, so I say it was more likely than not he turned it around.
Compare Palace's treatment of Viera to Brentford's backing of Thomas Frank when Brentford endured a long winless run last season, and their loyalty is now being rewarded with a great season.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:22 pm
by Hibsclaret
Something went on behind the scenes I reckon. There was that issue with the coach or someone being sacked a couple of months ago I think. Think they wanted rid because of something like that rather than anything to do with the bad run specifically.
As for Hodgson, he’s worse than Warnock keep coming back. Destined to be a failure.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:27 pm
by The Centre Spot
Looks like someone has drawn a face on a balloon then blown it up.
Re: Patrick Viera
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:39 pm
by Jakubclaret
tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:18 pm
No guarantees Palace would have started winning under Viera, however their record against the lower half sides is decent so far this season, so I say it was more likely than not he turned it around.
Compare Palace's treatment of Viera to Brentford's backing of Thomas Frank when Brentford endured a long winless run last season, and their loyalty is now being rewarded with a great season.
I do have some degree of sympathy for viera as I don't think their board have backed him enough, we'll never know what viera could have done or not done but the 1 thing we can be sure about is that there never looked like scoring & he was ultimately responsible for mateta & Eduardo there did have some credible home draws against Liverpool Newcastle & man united but when you are keeping the back door shut it's less of a issue with shot shy strikers.