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HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:45 pm

Do the math

MATHS we are not American

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:54 pm

MATHS we are not American

HunterST_BFC may be!

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:56 pm

HunterST_BFC may be!

How dare you !

Lancs 100%

Is bfcmik Irish ? (obv' in jest)

And with Luton drawing, that means we will clinch promotion if we win the next two.

dsr wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:30 am

And with Luton drawing, that means we will clinch promotion if we win the next two.

Just so. Beat Sunderland then we are promoted if we win at Middlesbrough. JUSTICE

Just said on another thread, sheff utd lose either of the next 2 and we win next 3 I think we're champions.

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:03 pm

How dare you !

Lancs 100%

Is bfcmik Irish ? (obv' in jest)

That's another americanism you prick. (0bv' in jest)

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:45 pm

Do the math

Maths

NRC wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

No, that was a typo.

basil6345789 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:09 pm

Maths

Mathematics. Strictly speaking Math is correct.

Or Math’s

NRC wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

1839

Language evolves.

Maths

It's evolved

We don't speak Shakespeare's English any more (well not the the Turf, from what I've heard)

Claret Toni wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:13 pm

We don't speak Shakespeare's English any more (well not the the Turf, from what I've heard)

Well all’s well that ends well!

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

NRC wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm

According to page 324 in the Statistics of the Colonies of the British Empire, published in 1839 it is Math
https://books.google.com/books?id=PaUNA ... th&f=false

The majority of Americanism is in fact old English. The Boston accent is believed to be the most authentic of how much of England communicated with each other in the seventeen hundreds, while local dialect was the everyday vocabulary, uniformity was needed for trade.

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:23 pm

Well all’s well that ends well!

Yep: As you like it

The Centre Spot wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:27 pm

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

Sums

Given that Luton, Millwall & Blackburn all have to play each other - we are now guaranteed a top four place.

The Centre Spot wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:27 pm

Have you all decided if we're calling it Math or Maths?

Maths - always has been and always will be here, only the Americans managed to drop the s off the abbreviated word.

Americans

Falling out over whose shortened version of a word is correct is peak UTC.

I thought the most authentic old English accent in the USA is found on Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay.

MT03ALG wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:27 am

Americans

They prefer to be called the singular, American.

FigSlice wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:19 pm

I thought the most authentic old English accent in the USA is found on Tangier Island in Chesapeake Bay.

Cheapskate bay? Sounds nice.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:29 pm

Cheapskate bay? Sounds nice.

Its Cheapskates Bay

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:30 am

Yep: As you like it

Was much ado about nothing anyway

Goobs wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:50 pm

Was much ado about nothing anyway

Alls well that ends well though

Chesapeakes Bays

Maths / math, legends / heroes, tomato / potato, its all the same at the end of the day

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:52 pm

Alls well that ends well though

A comedy of errors from you there Boss as that one has already been used

Let's call the whole thing off

Goobs wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:01 pm

A comedy of errors from you there Boss as that one has already been used

Now is the winter of discontent
Made glorious summer by this Son of York

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:18 pm

Now is the winter of discontent
Made glorious summer by this Son of York

And got his ass kicked by Lancastrians.

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:40 pm

And got his ass kicked by Lancastrians.

No twas the "House of Lancaster" nowt to do with Lancashire

Henry 7th was actually born in Pembrokeshire Murdering Welsh bugger

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:54 pm

MATHS we are not American

I've been over here for about 14 years and it still does my head in !!

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:55 pm

No twas the "House of Lancaster" nowt to do with Lancashire

Henry 7th was actually born in Pembrokeshire Murdering Welsh bugger

House of Lancaster.....is not Lancaster the County town of Lancashire?
You're right of course, the Tudors were Welsh, Twyders which was Anglisized, but still stuffed the House of Yorkies.

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:29 pm

House of Lancaster.....is not Lancaster the County town of Lancashire?
You're right of course, the Tudors were Welsh, Twyders which was Anglisized, but still stuffed the House of Yorkies.

Similarly House of York nowt to with Yorkshiremen either but hey ho as long as it gives you something to cling to ... its OK oh and its Anglicised to be pedantic

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:23 am

Maths - always has been and always will be here, only the Americans managed to drop the s off the abbreviated word.

that's clearly incorrect on all counts (sic), witnessed by my post earlier up in the thread. It hasn't always been, and it's not just the Americans

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:33 pm

Similarly House of York nowt to with Yorkshiremen either but hey ho as long as it gives you something to cling to ... its OK oh and its Anglicised to be pedantic

You pedantic ????? Never. Btw I wouldn't cling to a Yorkie at any price.

The word 'sport' has now become 'sports', simply because thats how it is termed in America.

The word 'twice' seems to have now been erased from the English language and replaced by 'two times', again I believe an American import.

So it's not just me that has noticed the dearth of twice. Mind you I still use thrice!

Targetman wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:18 pm

The word 'sport' has now become 'sports', simply because thats how it is termed in America.

The word 'twice' seems to have now been erased from the English language and replaced by 'two times', again I believe an American import.

That substitution of twice makes most linguists wince. I can understand the internationalisation of English but the number of words being lost is going to make English language no more agile than other European languages… the main reason it was adopted for trade in the first place.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:13 pm

That substitution of twice makes most linguists wince. I can understand the internationalisation of English but the number of words being lost is going to make English language no more agile than other European languages… the main reason it was adopted for trade in the first place.

I don’t think English as the ‘lingua franca’ has anything to do with its agility, it’s a notoriously contradictory language compared to other European tongues.

The preeminence of English as a global language through the modern period has much more to do with the power of its native speakers ie The British Empire and all the political and trade dominance that came with it at a time the the world was becoming truly global. With the accession of American power this has only be solidified, and it’s the cultural and political dominance of the US that has gradually lead to their ‘version’ of the mother tongue becoming more widespread.

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:33 am

I don’t think English as the ‘lingua franca’ has anything to do with its agility, it’s a notoriously contradictory language compared to other European tongues.

The preeminence of English as a global language through the modern period has much more to do with the power of its native speakers ie The British Empire and all the political and trade dominance that came with it at a time the the world was becoming truly global. With the accession of American power this has only be solidified, and it’s the cultural and political dominance of the US that has gradually lead to their ‘version’ of the mother tongue becoming more widespread.

A good argument but the ‘American version’ of English is like saying Lancastrian is the same as Queens English. If you go to parts of Missouri it is a distinctively different language to the seventeenth century pronunciation they use in Boston. While Emperialism certainly played its role, English was adopted as the language of trade before either the British Empire became dominant any of the Dutch, French and Dutch Empires and prior to Belgiums massive influence in Africa. So while it is truth of course a combination of our answers rather than an either/or.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:01 pm

A good argument but the ‘American version’ of English is like saying Lancastrian is the same as Queens English. If you go to parts of Missouri it is a distinctively different language to the seventeenth century pronunciation they use in Boston. While Emperialism certainly played its role, English was adopted as the language of trade before either the British Empire became dominant any of the Dutch, French and Dutch Empires and prior to Belgiums massive influence in Africa. So while it is truth of course a combination of our answers rather than an either/or.

Yes, that’s a good point about the variety of dialects etc that exist within the US itself (interestingly as you mention Missouri my sister in law is from St Louis), I should have been more clear and referred to ‘Americanisms’ as that’s what is essentially being argued here.

I think there’s quite a lot of debate about when English became THE global language, not just for trade but diplomacy, science and academia etc, and predictably answers tend to be pretty vague, but I think consensus seems to settle on or around the 19th century when the Empire was at its peak.