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What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:41 am
by PremierLeagueClass
So far this season, due to the quality of opposition, we have very rarely had to deviate from our primary game plan.

There will be games next season where we need a different approach, as we saw at the weekend. The question is, what does the plan B look like and which players do we need to execute it?

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:56 am
by Pickles
I understand what you're saying but worth mentioning that Kompany has changed games, positions, tactics, formations multiple times in games this season.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:04 pm
by RVclaret
Been so many different plans this season.

In fact, Saturday that you refer to saw a slightly different plan, and it worked for most of the first half.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:06 pm
by Darnhill Claret
VK needs the whole alphabet. Won't limit himself to A and B.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:20 pm
by Pickles
RVclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:04 pm
Been so many different plans this season.

In fact, Saturday that you refer to saw a slightly different plan, and it worked for most of the first half.
Sometimes it's three or four a game.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:25 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
Perhaps I should say, what will our approach be in games where we are the underdogs by some distance, I suspect there are only a handful of teams we play in the Premier League where that will be the case.

Next time we play at the Etihad, will we take a different approach?

This is not a criticism of Kompany at all. It’s just we’ve only seen this team outmatched on a couple of occasions so far.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:29 pm
by Nonayforever
Kompany has that many different plans going that most fans won't even see the transition between them.
Millwall and Luton in particular the change in plan was evident.
He has far more up his sleeve than most fans are aware of.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:44 pm
by It Is What It Is
Plans are ok...it's just executing them that's a problem.
Different set ups and formations has made today's Premier league matches dull boring for most of the game. I would completely ban the back pass to the goalkeeper.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:52 pm
by RVclaret
PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:25 pm
Perhaps I should say, what will our approach be in games where we are the underdogs by some distance, I suspect there are only a handful of teams we play in the Premier League where that will be the case.

Next time we play at the Etihad, will we take a different approach?

This is not a criticism of Kompany at all. It’s just we’ve only seen this team outmatched on a couple of occasions so far.
Depends what you mean by different approach. Camping in our box with 5 at the back and 3 defensive midfielders? Highly unlikely. Will we play as high a line and man to man mark? Possibly but depends if that’s what he feels is Man City’s weakness that we can exploit. It depends on the opposition but our key principles won’t change (pressing traps, retaining the ball where we can, playing out etc).

I get what you are saying but I think Kompany is already very flexible depending on the game state (though still a lot to learn, as he says).

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:54 pm
by Colburn_Claret
PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:41 am
So far this season, due to the quality of opposition, we have very rarely had to deviate from our primary game plan.

There will be games next season where we need a different approach, as we saw at the weekend. The question is, what does the plan B look like and which players do we need to execute it?
No need for a plan B.
The system we operate is very fluid. It was explained very well in an article on this thread last week.
We go from 4 4 2 to 3 5 1 to 2 4 4, depending on how the opposition set up.

So no need for a plan B, we just need to execute plan A to our very best.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:59 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
RVclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:52 pm
Depends what you mean by different approach. Camping in our box with 5 at the back and 3 defensive midfielders? Highly unlikely. Will we play as high a line and man to man mark? Possibly but depends if that’s what he feels is Man City’s weakness that we can exploit. It depends on the opposition but our key principles won’t change (pressing traps, retaining the ball where we can, playing out etc).

I get what you are saying but I think Kompany is already very flexible depending on the game state (though still a lot to learn, as he says).
I actually thought that first half hour at City showed he knew exactly how to beat them. Had Muric been playing we would have broken through their press on multiple occasions and caused some damage. Obviously though we don’t currently have the players to execute that plan for 90 minutes.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:06 pm
by basil6345789
Could try marking opponents in the penalty area - the only criticism I could make - common throughout football now. Otherwise simply brilliant and appreciated.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:08 pm
by Vegas Claret
we won't need to deviate much from what we've done this season, nailed on we bring in far better quality than we currently have in the summer.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:19 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
After Fleetwood we started to mix it up a bit more as just possession wasn’t working in that game and trying to pass it into the net.

I’m hoping we mix it up a lot more next season or we have the possibility of doing a Norwich , I can’t see us being as dominant against prem opposition, it will be interesting to see how VK copes with that.

Against those cheats Man City not many teams have a chance. Switched over at 30 mins as I knew they were just going to go into overdrive after that.

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:29 pm
by Milltown1882
Let’s remember we don’t play Haaland, Mahrez, Foden and KDB every week…

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:29 pm
by Milltown1882
Let’s remember we don’t play Haaland, Mahrez, Foden and KDB every week…

Re: What is our plan B

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:50 pm
by fatboy47
Our plan will be to play twenty-odd of our games against very beatable sides.

Like Bournemouth.