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Huddersfield Town

Post by Stayingup » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:52 pm

Been over that way earlier and was told Town are going into adminstration this week. Anyone heard anything?

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by clansman » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:00 pm

Seems about to happen with a pre pack administration clearing debts and starting again. Wealthy Dutchman reportedly interested in them.

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Post by clansman » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:00 pm

Seems about to happen with a pre pack administration clearing debts and starting again. Wealthy Dutchman reportedly interested in them.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by clansman » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:00 pm

Seems about to happen with a pre pack administration clearing debts and starting again. Wealthy Dutchman reportedly interested in them.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by clansman » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:01 pm

Sorry!

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by NRC » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:03 pm

Is that just the one, or three of them, Clansman? :) Investors are like buses - can't find one then they all come along

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by clansman » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:05 pm

Just my hopeless social media skills!😃

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Pickles » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:08 pm

Girlfriend and her family are Town fans. Club needs a reset but are too skint to do it. It's a really poor squad. Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes - good forward options, about ten years ago. Town fan Dean Hoyle has said he'll sell the club for £1 but it's the debt that's the problem. With the right sort of board it's a club with quite a bit of potential. Fairly healthy catchment area and decent facilities. Similar sort of club to us in many ways.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Stayingup » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:19 pm

They will get a points deduction but as they're going down in any case, they might as well take the hit this season and start afresh next. I have been told that if they go into adminstration before the end of March the points deduction will apply to this season and not next season???

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Stayingup » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:27 pm

Pickles wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:08 pm
Girlfriend and her family are Town fans. Club needs a reset but are too skint to do it. It's a really poor squad. Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes - good forward options, about ten years ago. Town fan Dean Hoyle has said he'll sell the club for £1 but it's the debt that's the problem. With the right sort of board it's a club with quite a bit of potential. Fairly healthy catchment area and decent facilities. Similar sort of club to us in many ways.
As a good friend and town fan used to say they are a mirror image of us. Well not now but....
It is a pity is this as I can think of other clubs I would rather see in administartion - not wishing it on anyp particularly. I have some friends still despondent at the demise of Bury FC. All the money swishing round in English football and half a million might well have saved Bury.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:04 pm

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... FNpyg&s=19

Swiss ramble did this thread about them last July and those numbers are horrific for a club that small

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Hipper » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:10 pm

If they knew they might go into administration why did they appoint Warnock - indeed why would he have gone there?

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Pickles » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:17 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:10 pm
If they knew they might go into administration why did they appoint Warnock - indeed why would he have gone there?
Sounds like he's doing Hoyle a favour, I think he's said as much himself. Managed them before, so nostalgia. No real loss from Warnock's perspective and from Town's point of view it galvanised the supporters a bit and they'd already gone through two young managers this season (Fotheringham was a disaster, very weird in press conferences) so it probably had to be something different.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:19 pm

March 24th is the deadline date for Admin points to come off this season, I read somewhere.
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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:19 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:10 pm
If they knew they might go into administration why did they appoint Warnock - indeed why would he have gone there?
Led to believe Warnock agreed to help out until the end of the season - nothing wrong with that

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Claretincraven » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:10 pm
If they knew they might go into administration why did they appoint Warnock - indeed why would he have gone there?
Neil Warnock is also big pals with Leigh Bromby, from their days at Sheffield Utd, who is currently Head of Football Operations at Huddersfield. I think that will also have had a bearing on him taking the job.
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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Pickles » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:03 pm

Claretincraven wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:53 pm
Neil Warnock is also big pals with Leigh Bromby, from their days at Sheffield Utd, who is currently Head of Football Operations at Huddersfield. I think that will also have had a bearing on him taking the job.
Yep, he's the one picking the managers on the whole. A lot of fans point the finger at Bromby and want him gone.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:10 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:19 pm
They will get a points deduction but as they're going down in any case, they might as well take the hit this season and start afresh next. I have been told that if they go into adminstration before the end of March the points deduction will apply to this season and not next season???
I think I heard that the cut off date is this week
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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:11 pm

Pickles wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:03 pm
Yep, he's the one picking the managers on the whole. A lot of fans point the finger at Bromby and want him gone.
Amazed Bromby is still there given his record in recruiting managers

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:14 pm

staggering that Lowton can't get in their match day squad

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:14 pm
staggering that Lowton can't get in their match day squad
Not according to the Huddersfield fans I know

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:10 pm
I think I heard that the cut off date is this week
Sheff utd are trying to avoid administration before Thursday I think it is.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:16 pm
Not according to the Huddersfield fans I know
played poorly I take it ?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:25 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:23 pm
Sheff utd are trying to avoid administration before Thursday I think it is.
I thought I’d heard this week. Blades will have got a boost with reaching the FA Cup semis.
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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:48 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:23 pm
Sheff utd are trying to avoid administration before Thursday I think it is.
No they aren't. You've been reading too much Daily Mail. ;)

If a club is going to be relegated, they can't go into admin just before the end of the season and make the points deduction pointless (pun intended). That's why there is a deadline in March, so that if they go into admin after that but before the end of the season, they will lose points this season if they had enough to stay up, but the deduction will defer to next season if they would have gone down anyway.

The deadline is not relevant for teams at the top. If they go into admin at any time in the season, their deduction is immediate.

Furthermore, Sheffield United have no reason to go into admin at present because they can hope to pay off their debts from PL money on promotion, and no doubt the cup semi-final gate money and prize money will help too. They might in theory go into admin after the play-off final if they don't get promotion, but virtually certainly not before.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Pickles » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:11 pm
Amazed Bromby is still there given his record in recruiting managers
Replacing Coberan was difficult so there's maybe a bit of leeway with the Schofield appointment as he was in-house. Where they really needed to make the correct decision was with Fotheringham and he looked out of his depth immediately with some quite frankly bizarre and angry press conferences. You just cannot imagine players wanting to play for him, and that's before you get onto tactics. Been a season to forget for Huddersfield.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:24 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:48 pm
No they aren't. You've been reading too much Daily Mail. ;)

If a club is going to be relegated, they can't go into admin just before the end of the season and make the points deduction pointless (pun intended). That's why there is a deadline in March, so that if they go into admin after that but before the end of the season, they will lose points this season if they had enough to stay up, but the deduction will defer to next season if they would have gone down anyway.

The deadline is not relevant for teams at the top. If they go into admin at any time in the season, their deduction is immediate.

Furthermore, Sheffield United have no reason to go into admin at present because they can hope to pay off their debts from PL money on promotion, and no doubt the cup semi-final gate money and prize money will help too. They might in theory go into admin after the play-off final if they don't get promotion, but virtually certainly not before.
They don't want the points applying this season because they're still just about in the automatic spots, hence why they don't want to announce admin until after Thursday

The FA Cup run money will help them stave off administration.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:40 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:24 pm
They don't want the points applying this season because they're still just about in the automatic spots, hence why they don't want to announce admin until after Thursday

The FA Cup run money will help them stave off administration.
If they go into administration on Friday or Saturday or the 1st of May, they still get the points deduction. The "deadline" only applies to relegated clubs.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:16 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:40 pm
If they go into administration on Friday or Saturday or the 1st of May, they still get the points deduction. The "deadline" only applies to relegated clubs.
They've made enough money to avoid the 4th Thursday of march deadline.

The FA cup run has given them financial breathing space.

Now if they can avoid administration or complete a sale of the club before the end of the season any points deduction would apply for next season.

The 4th Thursday of march deadline isn't just for relegated clubs, before that date the points deduction is applied immediately.
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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:39 pm

Late account naughty boys as well.

Fancy being that daft.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by Casper2 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:44 pm

The Dutch have taken over

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:16 pm
They've made enough money to avoid the 4th Thursday of march deadline.

The FA cup run has given them financial breathing space.

Now if they can avoid administration or complete a sale of the club before the end of the season any points deduction would apply for next season.

The 4th Thursday of march deadline isn't just for relegated clubs, before that date the points deduction is applied immediately.

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What you have quoted supports what I said, not what you and the Daily Mail said.

12.3.2 says that after the fourth Thursday in March, rule 12.4 applies.

12.4.1 says that if a club would be relegated without any points deduction, the deduction happens next season instead.

12.4.2 says that if a club would not be relegated without any points deduction, then the deduction happens in the current season.

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Post by LS7 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:04 am

The end of the cheap money era.

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Post by paulatky » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:30 am

Pre-pack administrations should be scrapped across the board for all industries.
To easy to write debts off and just continue with same management and staff.
Rinse and repeat as many times as you like

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by claretburns » Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:16 pm

As part of the deal Dean Hoyle will write off the clubs debts of £40,000,000 saving them from administration, for the time being.

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:14 pm

New owner confirmed - Kevin Nagle from Sacramento Republic FC

https://www.htafc.com/news/2023/march/c ... -m.-nagle/

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Re: Huddersfield Town

Post by IanMcL » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:27 pm

clansman wrote:
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Sorry!
I was ok at Double Dutch but blown now!

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