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Shanks said no

Post by LONDONCLARET23 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:10 pm

I have no clue how this article from yesteryear popped up on my Google stories but it provided a lovely bit of Tuesday afternoon nostalgia

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... rs-closed/
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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:22 pm

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:10 pm
I have no clue how this article from yesteryear popped up on my Google stories but it provided a lovely bit of Tuesday afternoon nostalgia

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... rs-closed/
Interesting reading the comments ... Houseclaret (he is the same "Ian" Houseclaret as visits here) and RobH20 (an ex Giggleswick Grammar School boy from Colne) who used to frequent the Boars Head back in the day ... often wonder what happened to him πŸ€” or if he is still with us...

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:36 pm

Some great comments there. Strange that Burnley fans sing about the Longside and the club now flashes it out in the stadium before kick off.

But it no longer exists :cry:

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by claretbob » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:53 pm

Amazing how many songs we have compared with most teams. City might have some of the best players on the planet but they barely sing Blue Moon nowadays.After last week I’m not sure if Hull have any songs!

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by LONDONCLARET23 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:58 pm

Some great memories of those early 90s seasons eh.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by LONDONCLARET23 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:59 pm

I will put it out there and say I always found the Longside intimidating!

The Beehole was far more my scene!

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:46 pm

Though the song was probably first sung about the Stretford Enders.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Though the song was probably first sung about the Stretford Enders.
Interestingly, we've had this debate before. Why would the Stretford End sing a song about Bill Shankly and Bertie Mee.

It is like a number of Burnley songs originally sung by Scouses. As is the current. In my Lancashire home, which is obviously the old scouse song about 2 cathedrals and accents exceedingly rare.

In the early 70, Liverpool and Arsenal were the two big teams and Shanks and Bertie Mee the two managers. The song is basically alluding to the fact that Kopites had no knowledge of their counterparts in the North bank HIghbury.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:59 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Though the song was probably first sung about the Stretford Enders.
Not quite, dougcollins.

Bertie Mee said to Bill Shankly "Have you heard of the North Bank, Highbury."

Shanks said no, I don't think so, but I've heard of the Longside, Burnley.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:59 pm
Not quite, dougcollins.

Bertie Mee said to Bill Shankly "Have you heard of the North Bank, Highbury."

Shanks said no, I don't think so, but I've heard of the Longside, Burnley.
Quite a few think its "Bertie Bee said to Bill Shankley" lol

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:09 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 pm
Quite a few think its "Bertie Bee said to Bill Shankley" lol
Many years before Bertie Bee reared it's head.....Bosscat.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:10 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:09 pm
Many years before Bertie Bee reared it's head.....Bosscat.
I know πŸ™„ but try telling some of the ones who were singing that πŸ˜‰

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:16 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:59 pm
Not quite, dougcollins.

Bertie Mee said to Bill Shankly "Have you heard of the North Bank, Highbury."

Shanks said no, I don't think so, but I've heard of the Longside, Burnley.
We definitely weren't the first to sing it. And it wasn't Liverpool, the Shankly reference doesn't fit with that (because of course Shankly would have heard of the Kop End).
It was deffo United fans who started it.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by LONDONCLARET23 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:17 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:16 pm
We definitely weren't the first to sing it. And it wasn't Liverpool, the Shankly reference doesn't fit with that (because of course Shankly would have heard of the Kop End).
It was deffo United fans who started it.

I think this is true actually.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Claretmisterg » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:27 pm

Good of the United fans to sing about the Longside, still don’t like them though.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:30 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 pm
Interestingly, we've had this debate before. Why would the Stretford End sing a song about Bill Shankly and Bertie Mee.
The original Utd song was "Bertie Mee said to Matt Busby, ........... at Highbury, No said Matt you cockney tw&t, but I've heard of the Stretford Enders"

Utd fan I knew at Uni back in 90's used to love singing this walking back from town p*ssed

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:30 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:16 pm
We definitely weren't the first to sing it. And it wasn't Liverpool, the Shankly reference doesn't fit with that (because of course Shankly would have heard of the Kop End).
It was deffo United fans who started it.
I guess we'll never know but the song is:

"Bertie Mee said to Bill Shankly "Have you heard of the North Bank, Highbury."

Shanks said no, I don't think so, but I've heard of the Longside, Burnley."

The song is the original I knew from the 70s and makes sense as far as I can see,

Burnley fans took the original and replaced 'Anny road aggro' or as I remember it 'Liverpool FC' with Longside Burnley.

Why would Burnley fans take a song about Matt Busby change it to Bill Shankly and rhyme that with Longside, Burnley?

The Man Utd song is:

Bertie Mee said to Matt Busby,
"Have you heard of the North Bank Highbury?!"
"No", said Matt, "You Cockney tw*t,
But I've heard of the Stretford, Enders."..

Which doesn't rhyme and is factually innacurate Bertie Mee was from the midlands.

I rest my case m'lud....!

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Claretmisterg » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:38 pm

I’m not aware of anybody singing it before us. Highbury scans well to Burnley. If United or Liverpool sang it then they likely copied us. Like we copied β€œE for B and Georgie Best” and sang β€œE for B and Ralphie Coates”. It didn’t rhyme but it was our version.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:47 pm

We sang 'E for B and Alan West'.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:47 pm

Ben Mee said to James Tarky.......

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:56 pm

So, come on, if we're reminiscing.......Where did it all start on the Turf ?

For me May'60 away at Maine Road.......1,2,3,4 who do ya think your shouting for.....B.u.r.n.l.e.y....Burnley.

2,4,6,8 who do we appreciate......B.u.r.n.l.e.y.....Burnley.

Yeah, I know, corny now.......But at the time.......

Followed not long after by I, I, Irvine No.9.....possibly the best chant of them all.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:00 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 pm
Quite a few think its "Bertie Bee said to Bill Shankley" lol
Burnley Football Club do - it's written on the wall in the Jimmy Mac Upper - although they have got the correct spelling of Shankly

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:00 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:56 pm

Followed not long after by I, I, Irvine No.9.....possibly the best chant of them all.
Was always I-I-Irvine-Irvine-I

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:00 pm
Was always I-I-Irvine-Irvine-I
Fine....but let's not forget the chant started with cool, calm Angus at full-back......

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:00 pm
Burnley Football Club do - it's written on the wall in the Jimmy Mac Upper - although they have got the correct spelling of Shankly
Ouch CT πŸ˜‰ a stray e slipped in 😁

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:09 pm

We've got Willie Morgan on the wing.......

We've got I-I-Irvine No.9......We've got I-I-Irvine.......

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:10 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:05 pm
Fine....but let's not forget the chant started with cool, calm Angus at full-back......
Cool John Angus at right back, no mention of calm which followed Dear Old Adam in the goal. The Angus one was when we went through the team.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:11 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:09 pm
We've got Willie Morgan on the wing.......

We've got I-I-Irvine No.9......We've got I-I-Irvine.......
I'll repeat it was I-I-Irvine-Irvine-I

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:11 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:08 pm
Ouch CT πŸ˜‰ a stray e slipped in 😁
It's wrong in the article linked too

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:10 pm
Cool John Angus at right back, no mention of calm and a completely different chant. The Angus one was when we went through the team.
Wow, I'll have to bow to your superior memory......as always.

Even though you were a late starter.
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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:11 pm
It's wrong in the article linked too
Explains my extra e πŸ˜‰ its because I have spent too much time reading articles in the Blackburnegraph 🀭
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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:11 pm
I'll repeat it was I-I-Irvine-Irvine-I
You can repeat all you like......I know what I sang, when you were nobbut a tiddler.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:18 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:16 pm
You can repeat all you like......I know what I sang, when you were nobbut a tiddler.
Good for you - always one out of line with everyone else I suppose

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Bosscat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:19 pm

All this correcting what folk sing ... They will be correcting "In our Lancashire homes" next πŸ˜‰






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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:18 pm
Good for you - always one out of line with everyone else I suppose
Oh dear.....Is there really any need ?

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:22 pm

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:21 pm
Oh dear.....Is there really any need ?
No there isn’t - no need at all for that unnecessary comment you made, bowing to superior memory.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:22 pm
No there isn’t - no need at all for that unnecessary comment you made, bowing to superior memory.
What was supposed to be no more than a bit a fun........Oh well, Night all.

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Re: Shanks said no

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:36 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:19 pm
All this correcting what folk sing ... They will be correcting "In our Lancashire homes" next πŸ˜‰






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Aye I seem to recall seeing a band called the Spinnners at Colne Muni singing a song that went 'In my Liverpool home, in my Liverpool home we speak with an accent exceedingly rare stand under a statue exceedingly bare if you want a cathedral we've got one to spare in my Liverpool home.

My parents and family were scouses. One half blue the other red and I was taken to both Goodison and Anfield before moving to East Lancashire with my parents then developing an odd accent and finally a passion for the Clarets because let's be honest wandering around Liverpool saying things like "cuk, buk and luk as opposed to coookk, loookk and boookkkkk" kind of marked me as somewhat of an object of ridicule.

As my mother used to bemoan: "ey lar, I can't even understand wot me own kidz are saying never mind dese woolly@rses wot have lived here der ole lives....! "
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