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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:26 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:15 pm
Can I help?
Mike, is here at last.....just wonderful.
Please talk to us and explain what motivated you to write the finest story of all time ?
And yes, I was there Burnley library for the launch of the book.
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:29 pm
I will be donating all my research material about Tommy Boyle to Burnley Library in due course that will form part of the new resource that is being established with a number of Burnley Supporters and the Lancashire Archive and Libraries service.
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by Nori1958 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:30 pm
Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:10 pm
MikeS is Mike Smith, who wrote the finest BFC book of all time featuring Tommy Boyle, a Broken Hero.
Sorry, never heard of him
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by Goody1975 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:30 pm
Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:21 pm
Goody....back to the football.
Talk to us about Tommy Boyle......captain of the FA Cup winners in 1914......off to fight for King and country in WW1, only to return to BFC and the First Division title in 1921......Is there a finer football story, ever ?
Certainly in our great club there certainly can't be.
The names of Halley and Watson alongside Tommy Boyle deserve recognition as well, they were a finely tuned defensive unit. A massive pity that they lost those years in between the cup and league victories.
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by Goody1975 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:31 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:29 pm
I will be donating all my research material about Tommy Boyle to Burnley Library in due course that will form part of the new resource that is being established with a number of Burnley Supporters and the Lancashire Archive and Libraries service.
Excellent.
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:44 pm
I started the Boyle research at the same time as I was researching my family history. My grandmother was called Boyce and was born the same year as Tommy in 1886. They were on the same page in the birth records for the first quarter. Previous Research showed that The Burnley club had Tommy as Thomas Wilkinson Boyle born 1888, when he was actually Thomas William Boyle born 1886.
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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:59 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:44 pm
I started the Boyle research at the same time as I was researching my family history. My grandmother was called Boyce and was born the same year as Tommy in 1886. They were on the same page in the birth records for the first quarter. Previous Research showed that The Burnley club had Tommy as Thomas Wilkinson Boyle born 1888, when he was actually Thomas William Boyle born 1886.
Brilliant, Mike.
Just how good was Tommy......look at some of those towering headers from our corners.
Dad talks about Attwell, Brown & Bray when he was at Wembley in '47, for me it was Adamson, Cummings & Miller in '62.......but your story of 1914 etc surpasses everything of all time......So desperately sad the way it had to end for Tommy Boyle.
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:09 pm
Boyle was only 5' 8, the same height as Messi, but he had tremendous leg muscles - developed from his early career in amateur athletics and down the pit allowing him to jump. The Burnley Express captured a few of his goals on camera showing him leaping well above defenders of the day.
A Roy Keane type on the pitch he shouted and organised his team mates on the field. Apparently he was at it all the game.
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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:16 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:09 pm
Boyle was only 5' 8, the same height as Messi, but he had tremendous leg muscles - developed from his early career in amateur athletics and down the pit allowing him to jump. The Burnley Express captured a few of his goals on camera showing him leaping well above defenders of the day.
A Roy Keane type on the pitch he shouted and organised his team mates on the field. Apparently he was at it all the game.
One of my all time favourite headers was from a corner against Blackburn in 1913.....but did that one actually count ?
The records show the winner in that game was a penalty..... from no other than Tommy Boyle,
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:17 pm
One of the last photographs taken of Tommy prior to his admission into Primrose Bank in Burnley in 1932 and his move a week later to Whittingham Asylum where he stayed until his death in 1940.
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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:22 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:17 pm
One of the last photographs taken of Tommy prior to his admission into Primrose Bank in Burnley in 1932 and his move a week later to Whittingham Asylum where he stayed until his death in 1940.
Wow....Is that special or what ?
But talk to us about that header against Blackburn in 1913......Did it count or not ?
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:24 pm
I'd have to look it up Roy.
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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:31 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:24 pm
I'd have to look it up Roy.
If it helps, the photo is there on Page 15 of "Burnley A Complete Record".
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by Royboyclaret » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:16 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:17 pm
One of the last photographs taken of Tommy prior to his admission into Primrose Bank in Burnley in 1932 and his move a week later to Whittingham Asylum where he stayed until his death in 1940.
What's that we're seeing behind Tommy. ?......Is that the Cricket Field End ?.......Can only be, surely ?
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by mikeS » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:22 pm
It is the old cricket field end yes.
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by Commy » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:22 am
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:57 pm
Are you aware that we can't show it like that without permission from the home club, in this case Blackburn.
Haven't read all the posts, but do we need permission? The club pays Sky to show live games on screens in the Fanzone so wouldn't that cover them showing it at the ground?
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by Sproggy » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:53 am
OK so a boycott isn't going to work.
How about Alan sources 2,000 chicken costumes instead and gives them out when people collect tickets?
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by Rick_Muller » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:39 pm
Sproggy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:53 am
OK so a boycott isn't going to work.
How about Alan sources 2,000 chicken costumes instead and gives them out when people collect tickets?
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Shall I wear one in the home end?
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by Sproggy » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:48 pm
Might attract attention.
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by FCBurnley » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Chairman and board could boycott the game. Would certainly get a lot press and put pressure on Rovers to re visit the decision
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by martin_p » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:24 pm
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:20 pm
Chairman and board could boycott the game. Would certainly get a lot press and put pressure on Rovers to re visit the decision
Nobody outside of east Lancs really cares though. It’s a stupid decision but there’s nothing we can do about it. Rovers want as few clarets there as possible so any sort of boycott is giving them exactly what they want.
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by Royboyclaret » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:56 pm
mikeS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:24 pm
I'd have to look it up Roy.
So, MikeS......did that header stand or was it Boyle's penalty that decided the match ?
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by ArmchairDetective » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:12 pm
martin_p wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:24 pm
Nobody outside of east Lancs really cares though. It’s a stupid decision but there’s nothing we can do about it. Rovers want as few clarets there as possible so any sort of boycott is giving them exactly what they want.
Absolutely. What would gain positive attention however is to sell out our measly allocation, and sell five times our allocation in tickets to some sort of big screen event.
Not convinced such an event will happen. But would love to be wrong.
Go make some noise you 2000 mighty clarets.