Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[warksclaret]

VK currently cooking Charlie Taylor an omlette.....

So, Sir Charles, how do you like your eggs?

"I am used to turned-over Vinny" he replied

[Nori1958]

I think it's safe to say Maatsen is not coming

[Swizzlestick]

Andy Jones pretty much confirming Tresor https://twitter.com/adjones_journo/stat ... 05621?s=20

[Firthy]

At least we got another excellent player in our squad. Tresor and Maatsen on loan... Still waiting for the big fish to bite and see who we manage to buy in the end.

Have we actually completed the Tresor deal yet?

[Boss Hogg]

Think we should have sorted the LB position early in pre season as with CM. These were the two clear positions that needed strengthening. We shouldn’t be left to be held to ransom on deadline day.

[claretdj]

31 million for maatsen? Who writes this stuff.

[Gazclaret83]

Daily Mail now saying Maatsen fee is £13.5 million.

A bit of sanity at last.

So Chelsea now want less money for maatsen when they said he wouldn't move for less than 20m

[RVclaret]

Think we should have sorted the LB position early in pre season as with CM. These were the two clear positions that needed strengthening. We shouldn’t be left to be held to ransom on deadline day.

Don’t you think they’ve been trying?

[LaLigaClaret]

Well if its £13.5m and not £31.5m then that is sensible for us to get personal terms agreed sharpish and shouldn't be a problem unless its something else that is the problem.

[burnleymik]

I hoped Maatsen would return, but if he doesn;t want to be here then I'd just rather we moved on quickly. A real shame it's been dragged out this long.

[Murger]

Can’t see this happening

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[claptrappers_union]

He wants to prove himself at Chelsea, it a football decision for him, but that said, when clubs agree a fee, it usually means that your club is happy for you to move on which is both football decision and a business decision.

[Vegas Claret]

Daily Mail now saying Maatsen fee is £13.5 million.

A bit of sanity at last.

typo, you aren't getting a current Dutch international for 13.5 million in the insanity of 2023

[AGENT_CLARET]

Well if its £13.5m and not £31.5m then that is sensible for us to get personal terms agreed sharpish and shouldn't be a problem unless its something else that is the problem.

What ever the price is I can't see a season long loan, he's refused a contract extension at Chelsea so at the end of this season (after a loan) he becomes a free agent

[4midable]

Hes not.coming

[claptrappers_union]

As for Divok Origi. I think we are better investing in a player we can develop

[kentonclaret]

31 million for maatsen? Who writes this stuff.

A person suffering from dyslexia maybe?

[Wembley09]

So Chelsea now want less money for maatsen when they said he wouldn't move for less than 20m

There will be add-ons, the deal will be no where near the reported £31.5 million
Initial fee could be around £13m - £18m with the potential to rise with performance based add-ons. £2/3 million avoiding relegation.. future £5 million if we got into Europe, maybe £1 million if Maatsen was part of a team that kept X amount of cleansheets or got X amount of assists.

All hypothetical, but I'd imagine it would be a deal set out something along those lines.

[Gp8419]

what if the breakdown is 5 million loan fee, 20 million over 4 years plus the rest in add ons based on PL appearances, avoiding relegation and qualifying for Europe with 4 years - that makes it much more affordable. Just need to persuade him

It’s like shopping with littlewoods catalogue,I’m still paying £2.52 a week for some trainers I bought ten year ago! The interest is incredible!

[RVclaret]

Just bizarre all round really. Ready to break our transfer record on him, after spending a year working with him/building trust, for him to not be interested in a move. Whatever his reasons are I think it’s a bit of a poor do from him.

[Wembley09]

Hes not.coming

See what the day brings, but I can't see him joining today either.
He will probably stay and see how he gets on at Chelsea, then if he doesn't break into the side regularly enough in the next few months.. MAYBE we will get him in January, hopefully for cheaper

[Gordaleman]

typo, you aren't getting a current Dutch international for 13.5 million in the insanity of 2023

You don't pay £31 million for an inexperienced full back either. I'm sure the fee will be a lot nearer £13.5 mil than £31mil.

Either way, we'll probably never know as it will be "An undisclosed fee " if it happens at all.

[winsomeyen]

If he is not committed to our cause time to walk away now.

[HahaYeah]

Yeah Billy Big B0llocks.

[Pearcey]

If he is not committed to our cause time to walk away now.

I think most players move their own cause don’t they? Career progression etc.

[Gazclaret83]

Hes not.coming

Obligation to buy then means nothing. So we could just take maatsen on loan for season an let west ham say get him on a free

[ksrclaret]

Unless Maatsen has only today decided he’s not keen on the move, it’s on the club this one and not the player.

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Breaking News: Charlie Taylor convinces Vincent Kompany he is a left back.

[Steddyman]

Time's ticking. Still no progress on any signings today.

Sky just confirmed Maatsen not happening as it stands.

[Wembley09]

SSN now reporting that Maatsen is leaning towards staying at Chelsea despite a fee being agreed.

[claretspice]

There's a few people need to read Dandeclaret's post a page or two back. Don't get suckered into the media narrative.

As Roman Roy says about the US election, this is just about making a day long entertainment programme to the journos. There's a kernel of truth in the stories, but there's a lot of spin and gilding the lily.

[RVclaret]

Looks like just Tresor today then?

[Firthy]

Bit disappointing so far. No new rumours amd god knows how many pages discussing Maatsen who now doesn't want to come. It's going to be a very long evening.

[RVclaret]

Standard suggesting Maatsen was more open to a move to West Ham. Reading between the lines he thinks he’s above us now after these Chelsea appearances.

[buzzclarets79]

£31m is a hell of a lot of money, but there seems to be a real lack of really good LB around. Look at Man Utd, they've been looking for a replacement for Shaw and not really un earthed any real talent. If Man Utd can't get a good LB in that says something. So while 31M is one real outlay could certainly see it paying off in the long run.

[Steddyman]

Will 300 pages be a record in a transfer window if we get there?

[Wembley09]

Bit disappointing so far. No new rumours amd god knows how many pages discussing Maatsen who now doesn't want to come. It's going to be a very long evening.

We've had many a long transfer deadline days, especially in recent years under Dyche and no budget.

[claretdj]

Pull the plug now n move on if ian not keen. Lokonga going on loan to Luton.

[Gazclaret83]

Get Ben mee back haha

[burnleymik]

Give Taylor a crack at it for 6 months. If Maatsen was preferring a move to West Ham (if true) and wants to remain at Chelsea, everything is pointing towards him not wanting to be here. I think Taylor would be fine dropping into a back three and at left back, especially as we can use his experience.

[LaLigaClaret]

Maatsen probably thinks someone else will come in for him in January and he will get more money and play for a "bigger" team. He should understand Chelsea DO NOT WANT HIM and he is not considered a LB and his potential midfield position puts him in competition with a lot of players who are rated far more highly than him. Hopefully common sense will prevail and a combination of VK and Poch telling him that will make him come to us. Where would Maatsen have been in his career if he hadn't been with us last season, I bet he will have been sold off cheap or out as a free agent next year and not with the reputation he has now aquired.

[agreenwood]

The emotional swing (jubilation and the toys out the pram) some people on this thread go through with every bit of news that comes out is unreal.

[BurnleyFC]

Maatsen quoted as saying “Burnley’s a **** hole, I wanna go home.”

[Wembley09]

Pull the plug now n move on if ian not keen. Lokonga going on loan to Luton.

Definitely time to move on, his heart is clearly not on the move (seem Chelsea want it more than him)
We don't want a player here regretting the decision to come, and wondering what could have been.

Let him stay at Chelsea, see what happens and if it doesn't work out go back in for him in January.. bring him in with a clear mind.

[Gazclaret83]

The emotional swing (jubilation and the toys out the pram) some people on this thread go through with every bit of news that comes out is unreal.

Because we love the club an hope kills you

[willsclarets]

Give Taylor a crack at it for 6 months. If Maatsen was preferring a move to West Ham (if true) and wants to remain at Chelsea, everything is pointing towards him not wanting to be here. I think Taylor would be fine dropping into a back three and at left back, especially as we can use his experience.

The premier league isn't really the place to "give someone a crack". VK clearly isn't keen on Taylor, even if he was having no back up there is a bit daft.

It's suprising that Maatsen's preferences would be news to us by now, hopefully we're already trying other left backs. We've signed some exciting players this summer, but we've potentially dropped a big boll*k here

[steve_f]

Sky sports now reporting Maatson deal agreed

[burnleymik]

The premier league isn't really the place to "give someone a crack". VK clearly isn't keen on Taylor, even if he was having no back up there is a bit daft.

Yeah, I mean Taylor has never played in the Premier League before.....

[Wembley09]

Give Taylor a crack at it for 6 months. If Maatsen was preferring a move to West Ham (if true) and wants to remain at Chelsea, everything is pointing towards him not wanting to be here. I think Taylor would be fine dropping into a back three and at left back, especially as we can use his experience.

I wouldn't mind seeing Taylor at left back, he's proven at left back in the Premier League.. did a very decent job for us there.
He would have alot of rust to shake off though, not played in that position (or any position really regularly the past season) so would take time to get back up to speed of the PL.. but he's still only 29 iirc.

[taio]

Some people spend far too much time listening to media reports and worrying about them