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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretAL » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:25 am

Either their could be truth in this or it is to leverage to get Chelsea to sell, but which would you prefer Mattsen Or Gomez?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-rea ... e-verdict/

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Post by frankinwales » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:31 am

Wow, young Gomez sounds great as well.

Up the Clarets

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Post by Clive 1960 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:40 am

boyyanno wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:04 pm
This lad is another wonderkid. I honestly don't think I have ever been as excited for a transfer window as I have for this one, we've been linked with the kind of players I never thought I'd see at Burnley.
It's great being linked and that's all it is but i want to see new players in sooner rather than later.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:42 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:40 am
It's great being linked and that's all it is but i want to see new players in sooner rather than later.
At least wait for the window to open before you have a wibble.
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Post by agreenwood » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:49 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:25 am
Either their could be truth in this or it is to leverage to get Chelsea to sell, but which would you prefer Mattsen Or Gomez?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-rea ... e-verdict/
I saw a poll on this the other day. Quite a lot of people had voted and at that stage more people had chosen Gomez.

Unless you were a regular watcher of Anderlecht, I’d question where those in favour of Gomez had seen him. He played 900 minutes of football for City last season. That’s about 10 games worth.

I watch a lot of football, but can barely remember seeing him play. Again, its transfer opinions are often Football Manager-esque.

I’m not saying he wouldn’t be a good signing or even better than Maatsen. I just marvel at how much people claim to know about footballers they would have struggled to watch.
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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:50 am

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:12 am
Deals to bring players in will be structured in instalments along side add ons, such as surviving in the PL, so if we do sign the likes of Tella or Maatsen for 20m, the actual cash out of the bank initially will be quite small, staying up will be key. If we did go down (unlikely if you ask me) but if we did we'd easily move these players on for decent fees, due to age and potential.
People saying Maatsen can leave for free at end of his contract, I think due to his age Chelsea would be due compo as we did with Ings move to Liverpool (stand to be corrected though)
Article in Lancs Live this morning suggesting that Maatsen has one year left, plus an option. It’s the first time I’ve seen this mentioned but might explain Chelsea being able to demand a little more on the fee.

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Post by dibraidio » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:20 am

Reading a link about Tresor and it says that Dimitri De Condé is the person we'd have to negotiate with. I have a feeling that we were linked with him back around 2000. No idea if there was anything in it.

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Post by Murger » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:22 am

dibraidio wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:20 am
Reading a link about Tresor and it says that Dimitri De Condé is the person we'd have to negotiate with. I have a feeling that we were linked with him back around 2000. No idea if there was anything in it.
Didn’t we have him on trial?

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Post by claretburns » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:23 am

dibraidio wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:20 am
Reading a link about Tresor and it says that Dimitri De Condé is the person we'd have to negotiate with. I have a feeling that we were linked with him back around 2000. No idea if there was anything in it.
Dimitri De Condé himself has been linked to Technical Director roles at West Ham and Southampton.

Edit: Leeds also interested in appointing him.

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Post by claretburns » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:26 am

Reading Dimitri De Condé's work at Genk since he joined the club in 2015 is to buy young and then sell, resulting in over €300 million in players sales including Leon Bailley and Sander Berge

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:37 am

Sounds like Tresor will be close to €20m if we want him.

Likely be breaking our record transfer if Kompany really wants him.

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:33 pm

Seems like Tella and Maatsen have been priced at roughly £20m each if we believe media reports. For me Tella makes Maatsen look dear, as I can understand why someone who has scored 19 goals and also contributed in assists is initially priced at £20m. Of course depends on structure of that fee and room for downward negotiation. Spending £40m on both seems a lot of our powder is being used, however if it meant close going up to £20m for Tella, or close, at the expense of not having Maatsen that would sound more logical for a club like us. We know Tella likes our club, has friends here and has got to know the area. He knows also that he can enjoy and probably succeed in the PL under Vinny. For us it might give us a £35-£40m in a few years

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Post by boyyanno » Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:38 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:40 am
It's great being linked and that's all it is but i want to see new players in sooner rather than later.
To be fair the window isn't even open yet and despite that we've already made two unbelievable signings- Beyer and Kompany on an extended contract. There's no doubt we are going to get more.

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:13 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:38 pm
To be fair the window isn't even open yet and despite that we've already made two unbelievable signings- Beyer and Kompany on an extended contract. There's no doubt we are going to get more.
Spot on. I can see at least 6.

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:23 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:25 am
Either their could be truth in this or it is to leverage to get Chelsea to sell, but which would you prefer Mattsen Or Gomez?

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-rea ... e-verdict/
I expect we want Maatsen and Gomez. Charlie is the one we will move on,

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:37 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:23 pm
I expect we want Maatsen and Gomez. Charlie is the one we will move on,
Hmm... will they both sign if one is benched? I can see Taylor staying and knowing he'll be back-up.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:46 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:23 pm
I expect we want Maatsen and Gomez. Charlie is the one we will move on,
Nope.....one or the other

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:53 pm

N’Golo Kanté off to Saudi

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:46 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:37 pm
Hmm... will they both sign if one is benched? I can see Taylor staying and knowing he'll be back-up.
Think Taylor will still leave but we will only sign one of Maatsen or Gomez and Vitinho will be back up left back, especially if we are still signing that right back from Portuguese league

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:52 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:46 pm
Think Taylor will still leave but we will only sign one of Maatsen or Gomez and Vitinho will be back up left back, especially if we are still signing that right back from Portuguese league
I think the ship has sailed with Vitinho at left-back. Kompany won't be wanting someone to fill in. We're Premier League now.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Vitinho is on his list to sell.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:05 pm

No chance we sell Vitinho with the amount of positions he can fill in. He may also develop into a handy player yet for a specific role.
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Post by Enola Gay » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:09 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:03 pm
And a decent performance for Scotland about every eight.
Quicknick wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:56 pm
Is that guesswork?
No.

Can’t really argue with the goal return but by Christ he can look like an absolute carthorse.
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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:21 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:05 pm
No chance we sell Vitinho with the amount of positions he can fill in. He may also develop into a handy player yet for a specific role.
I think the fact you haven't mentioned a position speaks volumes. He doesn't currently have one.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:55 pm

Nixon saying we are making a new 7m + bonus offer for Jack Clarke. Sunderland want 10 guaranteed.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:32 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:21 pm
I think the fact you haven't mentioned a position speaks volumes. He doesn't currently have one.
I don’t think it does , what is he 22/23? He’s as close to the old “utility” player as you are going to find in or squad , can play out wide either side , either full back role, and if a change of system was to arise I do think he’d thrive as a wingback. He attacks much better from a deeper position than he does as a winger . If he could tidy his passing game up a bit I also think he’d be useful in the centre of the midfield as a bit of a ball winner high up the pitch.

One of his stand out performances was actually at left back against Wigan away.

I think it speaks volumes that our manager was chasing him at Anderlecht and brought him to Burnley , probably for those very reasons .
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Post by fatboy47 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:35 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:09 pm
No.

Can’t really argue with the goal return but by Christ he can look like an absolute carthorse.
I must have missed every 8th game.

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:38 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:32 pm
I don’t think it does , what is he 22/23? He’s as close to the old “utility” player as you are going to find in or squad , can play out wide either side , either full back role, and if a change of system was to arise I do think he’d thrive as a wingback. He attacks much better from a deeper position than he does as a winger . If he could tidy his passing game up a bit I also think he’d be useful in the centre of the midfield as a bit of a ball winner high up the pitch.

One of his stand out performances was actually at left back against Wigan away.

I think it speaks volumes that our manager was chasing him at Anderlecht and brought him to Burnley , probably for those very reasons .
I'm just not seeing it. And I think Kompany will be looking to sell him.

The Prem is not the time to be trying players in 147 positions to see what suits him.

I can see yoyr point mate of course I can. I just don't think Kompany wants him.

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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:38 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:35 pm
I must have missed every 8th game.
So the consensus is he isn't very good. :lol:
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:57 pm

Every team needs a Vitinho in it. He is our utility man
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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:58 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:57 pm
Every team needs a Vitinho in it. He is our utility man
So a modern-day Arthur Bellamy, then.

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Post by buzzclarets79 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:11 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:57 pm
Every team needs a Vitinho in it. He is our utility man
No way is he getting sold. The squad will need exactly someone like Vitinho for squad depth, I think we won’t see him as often this season but he’s in the 25 man squad for sure.

He’s Burnley’s James Milner.

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Post by Carwin261 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:13 pm

Thought he was excellent when he had a long run in the side when Roberts was out,just not been to get a place since Christmas.

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:28 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:38 pm
So the consensus is he isn't very good. :lol:
More than happy to discuss this. It's what people do. Why have this board otherwise?

I just don't think VK will keep him.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:38 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:28 pm
More than happy to discuss this. It's what people do. Why have this board otherwise?

I just don't think VK will keep him.
The players I can see kompany being happy to leave:
BPF
Franchi
Thomas
McNally (or loan again)
Taylor
Churlinov
Jay Rod
Weghorst
Richardson

Think he will keep bastien around as we are limited in the middle
Costelloe (on loan)

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Post by whiffa » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:38 pm
The players I can see kompany being happy to leave:
BPF
Franchi
Thomas
McNally (or loan again)
Taylor
Churlinov
Jay Rod
Weghorst
Richardson

Think he will keep bastien around as we are limited in the middle
Costelloe (on loan)
I'd agree with most of this except for Taylor, I think he's proven PL quality and is worth more to us (especially now he can play 2 positions) than he would be to sell and get in a replacement.

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:52 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm
I'd agree with most of this except for Taylor, I think he's proven PL quality and is worth more to us (especially now he can play 2 positions) than he would be to sell and get in a replacement.
We have very different thoughts on football.

You are keeping BPF, Churlinov, Jay Rod and Weghorst. No. I'm pretty much replacing half of your list.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:53 pm

I don't think anyone will be leaving till we've actually got some more players in to be perfectly honest

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Post by ClaretLoup » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:53 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:55 pm
Nixon saying we are making a new 7m + bonus offer for Jack Clarke. Sunderland want 10 guaranteed.

At £10 million I think this would be an excellent signing. He’s a young lad who looks a very good footballer I’ve seen him three times now for Sunderland and he has perhaps been one of their best players on every occasion.

Set up the first goal for the Mackems vs Burnley.
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Post by whiffa » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:55 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:52 pm
We have very different thoughts on football.

You are keeping BPF, Churlinov, Jay Rod and Weghorst. No. I'm pretty much replacing half of your list.
I'm saying I'd keep Taylor, happy for the rest of the list to leave. Not sure what's a "different thought on football" really, why does everything have to be so fractious?

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:01 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:55 pm
I'm saying I'd keep Taylor, happy for the rest of the list to leave. Not sure what's a "different thought on football" really, why does everything have to be so fractious?
It's not that. But you seem to want to replace what I said.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:05 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:53 pm
At £10 million I think this would be an excellent signing. He’s a young lad who looks a very good footballer I’ve seen him three times now for Sunderland and he has perhaps been one of their best players on every occasion.

Set up the first goal for the Mackems vs Burnley.
I would be very happy with that

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Post by whiffa » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:05 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:01 pm
It's not that. But you seem to want to replace what I said.
You're making no sense at all, if someone else can translate I'll respond :lol:

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:10 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:05 pm
You're making no sense at all, if someone else can translate I'll respond :lol:
You want to keep BPF, Churlinov, Jay Rod and Weghorst.

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Post by whiffa » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:14 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:10 pm
You want to keep BPF, Churlinov, Jay Rod and Weghorst.
Think you need to read again what I put mate, looking a bit daft here.

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Post by clarets12 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:24 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:14 pm
Think you need to read again what I put mate, looking a bit daft here.
Apologies. I mixed you up with another poster.
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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:06 pm

clarets12 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:28 pm
More than happy to discuss this. It's what people do. Why have this board otherwise?

I just don't think VK will keep him.
I was talking about a potential signing. 8-)

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:25 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:46 pm
Nope.....one or the other
Nope. We will move Charlie on. His wages will be much higher than the other two.

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Post by ClaretinJapan » Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:28 am

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Post by dibraidio » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:51 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:25 pm
Nope. We will move Charlie on. His wages will be much higher than the other two.
It was strange last season, I don't think Charlie really fits at left back or centre back into the VK way of playing. We needed to keep playing him so that he doesn't lose his value but at the same time Maatsen and Beyer were better options. I'd be very surprised if he's still here in September. I wouldn't be surprised if Dyche wanted to sign him.

I'm surprised at people thinking that Jay might leave. He's another year on his contract and I can't really see him wanting to go anywhere else. Surely he's the sort of influence the lads need in the dressing room, his experience of 220 appearances in the Premier League surely has more value than getting his wage off the bill. Jack Cork is the same, 300 games at this level is massive. You can't replace that with a 22 year old from Belgium.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:55 am

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