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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by KRBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 1:32 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 11:37 am
I’d say based on the size of his contract and signing on fee there are at least 20 million reasons why Tarks signed for Everton.

Funny how most burnley fans voted Tarks in their best ever burnley eleven yet you talk about him like he’s a slight upgrade on Peter Swan. But with your inflated opinion of your football knowledge I’m pretty sure you believe you are correct and everyone else is wrong.
Based on the way you speak Barcelona should have surely been sniffing around him. Quite telling he went on a free transfer and the best option he got was a poor relegation fighting team. I’d have him in my Burnley team too, he was great here but that doesn’t make him not hugely limited to one way of playing

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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 1:52 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6essW1Cg0

We should sign this guy then we can have someone from Japan :)

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Post by HistoricalClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm

for everyone whingin bout Ekrem he doesnt need Burnley twitter traffic he gets enough. He also is followed by Andy Jones the Burnley athletic reporter AND Fabrizio Romano. Ekrem was also the first journalist to report on Weghorst to Manchester United.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 2:54 pm

Messi went on a free transfer I believe. That's what happens when a contract expires, nothing to do with ability.

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Post by ClaretFelix » Mon May 29, 2023 2:58 pm

:D
Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6essW1Cg0

We should sign this guy then we can have someone from Japan :)
Given our penchant for spotting talent in Belgium I assume VK and his band of merry men have noticed the form of Ayase Ueda, Japanese striker from Vitinho's former Club Cercle Brugge. 21 in 38 this season.
I don't know an awful lot about him to be honest but signing a Japanese international might have the same impact Foster's signing has in terms of gaining new supporters in a new part of the world

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Post by RVclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:01 pm

HistoricalClaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm
for everyone whingin bout Ekrem he doesnt need Burnley twitter traffic he gets enough. He also is followed by Andy Jones the Burnley athletic reporter AND Fabrizio Romano. Ekrem was also the first journalist to report on Weghorst to Manchester United.
Poor source. Tier 4.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 11:55 am
Burnley have put an opening offer in for Mikaudetze

According to Ekram Konur
whilst he's followed by plenty of people he doesn't seem to be followed by any big hitters (in the brief look I just had) and that probably says more. A couple of links he put out this week were got from L'equipe and Mercato so they carried a bit more weight imho

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Post by daveisaclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:11 pm

A quick search of the bloke's tweets shows he was claiming Steve Bruce and Sam Allardyce were the candidates to replace Dyche so, you know.

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Post by BB4Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:19 pm

On the subject of young wingers, should we lose Benson, don’t forget that we bought 18-yr-old Enock Agyei from Anderlecht in January and sent him straight out on loan to KV Mechelen (Steven Defour).
I’m not sure how well he’s done. He doesn’t seem to have played much, but would a full pre-season with VK make him an option?

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Post by HistoricalClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:19 pm

BB4Claret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 3:19 pm
On the subject of young wingers, should we lose Benson, don’t forget that we bought 18-yr-old Enock Agyei from Anderlecht in January and sent him straight out on loan to KV Mechelen (Steven Defour).
I’m not sure how well he’s done. He doesn’t seem to have played much, but would a full pre-season with VK make him an option?
Enock is defo on 4 the future rather than now

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 3:41 pm

HistoricalClaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm
for everyone whingin bout Ekrem he doesnt need Burnley twitter traffic he gets enough. He also is followed by Andy Jones the Burnley athletic reporter AND Fabrizio Romano. Ekrem was also the first journalist to report on Weghorst to Manchester United.
You’d expect a journo from turkey to get info regarding a player playing in turkey but the amount of tweets regarding Burnley in the last day, highly doubt a free lance has that must info from England, France and Italy

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Post by HistoricalClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 3:54 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 3:41 pm
You’d expect a journo from turkey to get info regarding a player playing in turkey but the amount of tweets regarding Burnley in the last day, highly doubt a free lance has that must info from England, France and Italy
Fabrizio Romano does. Agents. Sacha does but his focuses more on Beglium and France

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Post by NewClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:02 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6essW1Cg0

We should sign this guy then we can have someone from Japan :)
Bloody hell, he looks good! Great stats in the Bundesliga too!

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:03 pm

I mean, it's been about 20 minutes since we've been linked with someone:
HAN-NOAH MASSENGO
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... -massengo/

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 4:06 pm

HistoricalClaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 3:54 pm
Fabrizio Romano does. Agents. Sacha does but his focuses more on Beglium and France
Don’t buy into that Romano at all, he literally tweets ‘Manchester United admirers off….’ For about 40 different players, bound to get one right, he’s nothing who deletes stuff that doesn’t happen

He will have some contacts but if you tweet enough bound to get something right

That sacha guy got a couple of deals right but he also claimed kompany was debating his future when he had already agreed a 5 year deal

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Post by HistoricalClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:27 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:06 pm
Don’t buy into that Romano at all, he literally tweets ‘Manchester United admirers off….’ For about 40 different players, bound to get one right, he’s nothing who deletes stuff that doesn’t happen

He will have some contacts but if you tweet enough bound to get something right

That sacha guy got a couple of deals right but he also claimed kompany was debating his future when he had already agreed a 5 year deal
Sacha never claimed he was debating his future simply stated his agents were contacted. Fabrizio made brighton look silly and does have connections to agents. If you arent going to give any credit to links provided by those two sources then lets bin the whole thread because to put it simply does not get more accurate than those two individuals.

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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 4:31 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:02 pm
Bloody hell, he looks good! Great stats in the Bundesliga too!
It's the Austrian Bundesliga. He still looks handy though.

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Post by Cooclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:32 pm
Based on the way you speak Barcelona should have surely been sniffing around him. Quite telling he went on a free transfer and the best option he got was a poor relegation fighting team. I’d have him in my Burnley team too, he was great here but that doesn’t make him not hugely limited to one way of playing
Totally agree. Tarks was magnificent for us, is great for Everton. But; he can’t play in a high line, and his distribution is limited. He is a poorer version of Slabhead and he’s shocking in a top six team.

Everton weren’t his only option, they were the only NW option. Who could’ve seen Everton being in a relegation scrap. I didn’t pick it.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 4:40 pm

HistoricalClaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:27 pm
Sacha never claimed he was debating his future simply stated his agents were contacted. Fabrizio made brighton look silly and does have connections to agents. If you arent going to give any credit to links provided by those two sources then lets bin the whole thread because to put it simply does not get more accurate than those two individuals.
Wasn’t about not giving them any credit, I don’t particularly credit anyone rather wait till someone is actually signed.

Just stated all these so called ‘transfer gurus’ post that much that they are bound to get some stuff right.

Sacha did claim exactly that, if you read his tweets he said kompany wasn’t sure if we would have finances to compete and if his credibility if we don’t succeed would go down, that sounds like debating his future to me

None of it really matters, last summer and looks like this summer it’s nice to see names linked regardless of how true they are

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Post by RVclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:53 pm

Speaking of Sacha…

Mikautadze and Orban mentioned.

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 59Piho1d6w

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Post by KRBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 4:56 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 2:54 pm
Messi went on a free transfer I believe. That's what happens when a contract expires, nothing to do with ability.
The team you play for absolutely is an indication of your ability, why else do you think Messi went to PSG and not Oldham on a free transfer

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Post by Big Vinny K » Mon May 29, 2023 4:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:32 pm
Based on the way you speak Barcelona should have surely been sniffing around him. Quite telling he went on a free transfer and the best option he got was a poor relegation fighting team. I’d have him in my Burnley team too, he was great here but that doesn’t make him not hugely limited to one way of playing
What have I said about Tarks that would make you think Barcelona should be sniffing round him ?

When you say one way of football I’m guessing you mean under Dyche ? Yet at the start of the season under Lampard (not exactly known for Dyche type football) Tarks was arguably playing his best football. Danny Murphy said on a MOTD last year that he thought that Tarkowski was the best English centre back in the Premier League at that time and Lineker agreed with him.

As for the reason he signed for Everton - it’s the same reason why many players have gone to relegation fighting Everton. They pay big money and at the start of every season they don’t expect to be relegation fighting. Why do you think one of the most successful football managers in the world in the last couple of decades went to Everton ?

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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 4:57 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:53 pm
Speaking of Sacha…

Mikautadze and Orban mentioned.

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 59Piho1d6w
Don't they want about £15M for him? We going in with silly offers again at £2.5M.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:58 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:57 pm
Don't they want about £15M for him? We going in with silly offers again at £2.5M.
Which one? As for silly offers, that regime isn’t at Burnley anymore, though it doesn’t mean we will pay over the odds.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:00 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:31 pm
It's the Austrian Bundesliga. He still looks handy though.
Ah right, just saw “Bundesliga” and assumed. Good player either way.

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Post by Pickles » Mon May 29, 2023 5:01 pm

Alan Pace went to France
In a Claret taxi
Brought us back a striker called
Georges Mikautadze
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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:58 pm
Which one? As for silly offers, that regime isn’t at Burnley anymore, though it doesn’t mean we will pay over the odds.
Mikautadze. I'm sure someone has already offered £9M and been knocked back.

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Post by ervi34 » Mon May 29, 2023 5:03 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:57 pm
Don't they want about £15M for him? We going in with silly offers again at £2.5M.
That bid was last summer.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon May 29, 2023 5:05 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Poor source. Tier 4.
I love the fact that sources now have tiers. If they get a few rumours correct do they get promoted?

Genuine question if anyone knows the answer, how do they get their tier?

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Post by RVclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:07 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:05 pm
I love the fact that sources now have tiers. If they get a few rumours correct do they get promoted?

Genuine question if anyone knows the answer, how do they get their tier?
Yes based off accuracy. For example when John Percy says something is happening, it’s happening. Tier 1.

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Post by Claretnick » Mon May 29, 2023 5:09 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:57 pm
Don't they want about £15M for him? We going in with silly offers again at £2.5M.
The tweet you're looking at was dated August 2022

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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon May 29, 2023 5:09 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:07 pm
Yes based off accuracy. For example when John Percy says something is happening, it’s happening. Tier 1.
So has Nixon suffered back to back relegations?
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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:10 pm

We need to be quick if we want Orban as most of Europe are watching him.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Mon May 29, 2023 5:11 pm

This thread really sorts the football fans from the transfer fans.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 5:16 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:11 pm
This thread really sorts the football fans from the transfer fans.
Suppose it is a transfer thread

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Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:18 pm

And when we sign players we won't have heard of them and none will have been mentioned on here :lol:

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Post by Pickles » Mon May 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:18 pm
And when we sign players we won't have heard of them and none will have been mentioned on here :lol:
Oh no no, we could sign someone from the third division on Mars and someone on here will have seen them play.
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Post by quoonbeatz » Mon May 29, 2023 5:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:16 pm
Suppose it is a transfer thread
It's entirely fit for purpose then.

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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Mon May 29, 2023 5:22 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:20 pm
Oh no no, we could sign someone from the third division on Mars and someone on here will have seen them play.
That's cos it will be on you tube.

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Post by IanMcL » Mon May 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Burnley connected to anyone, anywhere, any price!

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Post by NewClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 6:00 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:01 pm
Alan Pace went to France
In a Claret taxi
Brought us back a striker called
Georges Mikautadze
I want to sign him just to hear this ringing around the turf :D

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Post by ervi34 » Mon May 29, 2023 6:55 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:05 pm
I love the fact that sources now have tiers. If they get a few rumours correct do they get promoted?

Genuine question if anyone knows the answer, how do they get their tier?
People like John Percy, Paul Joyce and Andy Jones when it comes to Burnley are considered tier 1 because when they have very good sources and are reliable. They usually don't bother tweeting if the information is not 100% verified. On the other hand, people like Ekrem Konur tweet every 30 minutes and some of their stories will turn out to be true but most of them won't.

Nixon is similar to Konur (a lot of stories published weekly) but he has been pretty reliable for us in the past few years. Broke the stories about Collins, Cornet, City players etc.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon May 29, 2023 7:04 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:56 pm


As for the reason he signed for Everton - it’s the same reason why many players have gone to relegation fighting Everton. They pay big money and at the start of every season they don’t expect to be relegation fighting. Why do you think one of the most successful football managers in the world in the last couple of decades went to Everton ?
I don’t see much clamour for Tarkowski to make the England team, from anyone at all, just on here.

Every PL club pays great money, big wages. He went to cannon fodder Everton because that’s his level and he wasn’t flush with choice.

At the start of this season Everton were expected to struggle and did, Tarkowski signed at the start of this season.

Comparing Everton pre Benitez to the one that survived relegation with 1 game to go under Lampard is incredibly disingenuous. Ancelotti went there when they were splashing cash, comfortably mid table and looking to push onto that next level. Million miles away from the current Everton.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 7:29 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 7:04 pm
I don’t see much clamour for Tarkowski to make the England team, from anyone at all, just on here.

Every PL club pays great money, big wages. He went to cannon fodder Everton because that’s his level and he wasn’t flush with choice.

At the start of this season Everton were expected to struggle and did, Tarkowski signed at the start of this season.

Comparing Everton pre Benitez to the one that survived relegation with 1 game to go under Lampard is incredibly disingenuous. Ancelotti went there when they were splashing cash, comfortably mid table and looking to push onto that next level. Million miles away from the current Everton.
Tarks will become the Steve Bruce of the PL. Bruce was a sensational defender, in the true sense. Acknowledged as that by Ferguson and his peers, and I believe he never got an England cap

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Post by Steddyman » Mon May 29, 2023 7:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 7:04 pm
I don’t see much clamour for Tarkowski to make the England team, from anyone at all, just on here.
Ben Mee on the other hand, transformed Brentford. Call him up boss.

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Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Mon May 29, 2023 7:36 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:20 pm
Oh no no, we could sign someone from the third division on Mars and someone on here will have seen them play.
I actually watch quite a few Martian 3rd tier games and there are some gems to be picked up if you know where to look

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Post by Pickles » Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
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I actually watch quite a few Martian 3rd tier games and there are some gems to be picked up if you know where to look
Not sure about the atmosphere though
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Rileybobs » Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 7:36 pm
I actually watch quite a few Martian 3rd tier games and there are some gems to be picked up if you know where to look
Some decent players but a terrible atmosphere.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Rileybobs » Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by fatboy47 » Mon May 29, 2023 7:44 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 7:31 pm
Ben Mee on the other hand, transformed Brentford. Call him up boss.
Yep, ideal chap for fast-flowing, slick, passing, high-line Kompany-ball.

I do just wonder if some people have spotted our change in style this season.

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