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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 am

Hardly surprising clubs in Turkey would want him when he has proved he can perform there. A number of clubs would want him maybe just not PL ones.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 11:11 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 am
Hardly surprising clubs in Turkey would want him when he has proved he can perform there. A number of clubs would want him maybe just not PL ones.
He can perform in Holland, Germany, Turkey

I'd argue that he can perform here, but he just can't score the required amount for whatever reason

The only thing missing from his game as a link up player really is goals and that is a real shame as I think he would be an asset to us next season in that role

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Post by warksclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 11:31 am

I think if it was not for his attitude, and purely on his skills, I for one would not be opposed to him staying. His work rate, fighting back for the ball and pressing are motivational factors for our team

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu May 25, 2023 12:03 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 9:38 am
The Newcastle who currently have Callum Wilson and Alexander Isak ?

Yes the same team. They will be in Europe next season and will need a bigger squad.

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Post by Stan Tastic » Thu May 25, 2023 1:01 pm

Imagine wanting a striker to continue playing for your team when he can't score goals. Unbelievable.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 25, 2023 1:20 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 10:38 am
Because we signed him for 10m doesn't mean that 2 years later we want 10m
The 10m figure was in relation to the posters above who were saying they think we will get 10m for him.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu May 25, 2023 1:23 pm

It seems odd thinking of weaknesses when we have just been the league’s top scorers, but goals from the centre forward position was one of them. Jay got a few but we know he scores much less at the top level nowadays.

In that context Weghorst is not the answer. We need other options, who will get 10 a season. Midfielders scoring will be slimmer pickings next season.

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Post by whiffa » Thu May 25, 2023 1:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 6:20 am
I think most were until his first half of football. Then nearly everyone and there Nan realised lorry’s turn quicker.
I'd completely disagree and argue most fans though he looked brilliant at holding the ball up and bringing others in to play, it's strange how when someone falls out of favour with the fans - there's an assumption that everyone and his mother thinks he was crap from the off. He wasn't brought in for his pace was he.
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Post by Foshiznik » Thu May 25, 2023 1:38 pm

If this was the 90s/2000s, he would be a brilliant Niall Quinn style player if he had a Phillips type prolific scorer alongside him.

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Post by frankinwales » Thu May 25, 2023 1:46 pm

Good afternoon guys.

Just joining in to say that when I've seen highlights of man united's games the established stars don't seem to want to pass to him.?

Not sure if it's because they don't rate him or just don't want to use him?.

Only short highlight packages I've seen but to my mind his teammates could have used him better and maybe he would have scored more goals than he has?.

Up the Clarets.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu May 25, 2023 1:46 pm

Too me the signs with weghorst were there straight away when you you looked and thought this guy is the only 6ft 6 striker who shrinks when he jumps
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Post by bumba » Thu May 25, 2023 1:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 6:20 am
I think most were until his first half of football. Then nearly everyone and there Nan realised lorry’s turn quicker.
He was brilliant away at Brighton, the 2nd half against Man Utd at home too.
He's better than any striker we currently have.
It hasn't worked out for him at Burnley nor Man Utd, I think a season in the championship scoring goals would of been good for him.
Personally think he'd suit that role in this team it's made for him but I think he's burnt his bridges here

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 2:06 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 11:31 am
I think if it was not for his attitude, and purely on his skills, I for one would not be opposed to him staying...
And his 'attitude' is in question because? Surely not just based on what oosters on here have said.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 2:17 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:06 pm
And his 'attitude' is in question because? Surely not just based on what oosters on here have said.
If you want the honest answer to that,have a word with Connor Roberts-I am sure he wont hold back and probably reflects what the rest of last season's team thinks about him. And have a look at the crocodile tears he showed at Turf Moor the minute we were relegated in front of the home crowd.I am sure there is footage on it. The next morning he was demanding a move to Turkey. Then there was wanting to see Alan Pace last season when he was dropped rather than discuss it with Dyche. As I say no question marks for me on his footballing ability but when you are a small club like ours punching above its weight you need strong team players

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Post by MancunianClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 2:23 pm

bumba wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 1:49 pm
He's better than any striker we currently have.
Not even a patch on Jay imo

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 2:32 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:17 pm
If you want the honest answer to that,have a word with Connor Roberts-I am sure he wont hold back and probably reflects what the rest of last season's team thinks about him. And have a look at the crocodile tears he showed at Turf Moor the minute we were relegated in front of the home crowd.I am sure there is footage on it. The next morning he was demanding a move to Turkey. Then there was wanting to see Alan Pace last season when he was dropped rather than discuss it with Dyche. As I say no question marks for me on his footballing ability but when you are a small club like ours punching above its weight you need strong team players
Bad attitude because two players on opposing sides got annoyed with each other during an international.

He left on loan because we were relegated and in such circumstances, it was agreed he could do to fulfill his World Cup ambitions.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 25, 2023 2:34 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 1:20 pm
The 10m figure was in relation to the posters above who were saying they think we will get 10m for him.
If we get 10m for him then we have done amazing, think 5-6m would be nearer

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 25, 2023 2:44 pm

we can probably kiss Georges Mikautadze goodbye
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... nterested/

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Post by BigGaz » Thu May 25, 2023 2:48 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 8:38 pm
He’s not really much of a goal scorer. Two for us and two for Man Utd. He still has TWO YEARS left on his contract. Who on earth decided to sign him in the first place?
Or, he scores at a rate of 1 in 2 outside of England, 1 in 3 in his earlier career

At Burnley, he was having the ball launched at his head when we were told, and he said himself, that isn’t his game despite his height. That side also didn’t create enough chances on its best days. When you count yourself as a slower runner than the likes of Ashley Barnes and Dale Stephens you’re gonna have a problem in this league.

At United, he simply isn’t quick enough to get into the positions they want him to be in. He was supposed to be their plan B that ended up having to be their plan A for longer than they would’ve liked.

Hes scored goals wherever he’s gone outside of England, and that’s because other countries leagues don’t have that’s same level of speed and to be fair, quality.

The bloke and his profile are not suited to this league, unless you adapt your team to play to his strengths, which for us, was a risky strategy and he didn’t do enough to warrant giving him that level of responsibility.

Good player, just not right for how the game is played here imo. There’ll be a buyer, if we can get 5-8m I’d be happy.

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Post by Somethingfishy » Thu May 25, 2023 2:52 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 1:38 pm
If this was the 90s/2000s, he would be a brilliant Niall Quinn style player if he had a Phillips type prolific scorer alongside him.
Niall Quinn was dominant in the air. Weghorst is shocking in that respect considering his height. He barely jumps.

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Post by bumba » Thu May 25, 2023 2:58 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:23 pm
Not even a patch on Jay imo
Jay in his prime probably not, Jay now........your having a laugh haha
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Post by dibraidio » Thu May 25, 2023 3:03 pm

12 million was the price mentioned by the press for Wout over a 3.5 year deal. So as an asset his value on the accounts is now 6.8m anything above that is a profit.

I'm pretty sure that when he was brought in he was seen as a bargain replacement for Chris Wood and the club never really thought about whether they'd get their money back, it was more about not going down. I have no idea how the payments were structured but it's possible that we still need to keep paying Wolfsburg for him for another two seasons. Now that he's over 30 I wouldn't expect us to get a massive amount of money for him.

I'm torn between thinking that his time at United has reduced his value because it's shown that he's not good enough for the Premier League or the fact that United were even interested means that he may be worth slightly more than he would have been if he's stayed in Turkey.

Looking at the German press at the time of his signing I got the impression that he has a reputation as a troublemaker which for me means he's not a Sean Dyche type of signing or a Vincent Kompany type of signing. I hope he finds a move somewhere else over the summer.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu May 25, 2023 3:30 pm

His football has been fine at ManU apart from scoring. He takes the ball in well, plays team mates in, tracks back and wins the ball. As mentioned previously many times he has taken up excellent positions and they pass the other way.
I had no problem with him leaving to keep his WC place but I don’t feel he’ll come back. I still think we can get £10m for him.
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Post by Carwin261 » Thu May 25, 2023 3:42 pm

Doesn’t seem to get on with anyone,even when he was at Old Trafford he seemed to be wanting to be in charge,and I’ve milk in the fridge that can turn faster than him,please VJ,give him a wide berth.

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Post by trawlen » Thu May 25, 2023 3:49 pm

I can't understand anyone defending him sorry. There's a lot of players who can take the ball well, pass and 'work hard' who don't cost £12m and take the biggest pay packet from the club.

Nothing signals to me that he should play for us. I'd rather Foster had a chance but we all know that Wout wouldn't sit on the bench for him. He'd want every single game and someone needs to tell him that he's not good enough.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 4:05 pm

The difference between Wout and our other newer strikers is that at premier league level we know that Wout doesn’t score goals so any doubt is removed. Need to get shut.

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Post by MancunianClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 5:02 pm

bumba wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:58 pm
Jay in his prime probably not, Jay now........your having a laugh haha
Know who I'd put money on to score goals and it isn't the stepladder

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu May 25, 2023 5:21 pm

Iniesta on a free anybody? Just opening it up for discussion not a suggestion

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Thu May 25, 2023 5:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:44 pm
we can probably kiss Georges Mikautadze goodbye
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... nterested/
Do we know how reliable the source is?
Could be the agent driving up the price if we are interested.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 25, 2023 6:05 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:34 pm
If we get 10m for him then we have done amazing, think 5-6m would be nearer
I agree that would be good value.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 6:08 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 2:17 pm
If you want the honest answer to that,have a word with Connor Roberts-I am sure he wont hold back and probably reflects what the rest of last season's team thinks about him. And have a look at the crocodile tears he showed at Turf Moor the minute we were relegated in front of the home crowd.I am sure there is footage on it...
So you've not actually had 'a word with Connor Roberts' or indeed with any of the rest of last season's team, instead you've made an assumption, based upon your personal interpretation of a few moments of TV footage.
It strikes me that the 'honest answer' is that you've got no more idea or insight into Wout Weghorst's attitude than I or most anyone else does; but hey-ho, who needs facts or honesty intruding when there's a prejudice that needs to be confirmed. :lol:
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu May 25, 2023 6:25 pm

Weggie, 1 in under 3 games until he plays in the PL.

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Post by boyyanno » Thu May 25, 2023 7:03 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 5:02 pm
Know who I'd put money on to score goals and it isn't the stepladder
You can't really think that can you...

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Post by NewClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 7:16 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 5:21 pm
Iniesta on a free anybody? Just opening it up for discussion not a suggestion
Iniesta is one of my favourite all time players, I doubt I’d be able to contain myself if I thought I’d see him in a Burnley shirt!

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Post by NewClaret » Thu May 25, 2023 7:25 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 5:55 pm
Do we know how reliable the source is?
Could be the agent driving up the price if we are interested.
We’re not getting him if AC Milan are in the running, unfortunately.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu May 25, 2023 7:27 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 7:16 pm
Iniesta is one of my favourite all time players, I doubt I’d be able to contain myself if I thought I’d see him in a Burnley shirt!
I’d even consider buying my first Burnley shirt in about 20 years to get his name on the back 😂
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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 25, 2023 7:45 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 5:55 pm
Do we know how reliable the source is?
Could be the agent driving up the price if we are interested.
Mercato usually pretty decent as are those who are reporting it, doesn't mean as you say it's not coming from his agent though
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Post by Hibsclaret » Thu May 25, 2023 7:54 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 6:25 pm
Weggie, 1 in under 3 games until he plays in the PL.
1 in 3 months when he gets to the prem

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu May 25, 2023 7:54 pm

Over the last 65 yrs I’ve had my favourites ,Pointer rather than Connelly ,Geoff Nulty rather than Peter Noble,any many more ,but never really took a dislike to any of the players ,apart from perhaps Paul Stewart ,and an odd loan here and there ,but for some reason I can’t take to WW at all.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu May 25, 2023 8:26 pm

I really like the look of Mikautadze and think he’d fit our system perfectly
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Post by Steddyman » Fri May 26, 2023 8:43 am

Of course the last two pages of the transfer rumours thread are discussing how crap Weghorst is.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 26, 2023 9:22 am

Steddyman wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 8:43 am
Of course the last two pages of the transfer rumours thread are discussing how crap Weghorst is.
Thanks for changing the subject back to him :lol:
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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri May 26, 2023 9:51 am

Troyes striker Ike Ugbo linked
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Post by Burnley Ace » Fri May 26, 2023 10:56 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 8:26 pm
I really like the look of Mikautadze and think he’d fit our system perfectly
What’s the overall quality of Div 2 in France? He might prefer a chance in the Prem rather than being loaned back to Metz?

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Post by NewClaret » Fri May 26, 2023 10:59 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 10:56 am
What’s the overall quality of Div 2 in France? He might prefer a chance in the Prem rather than being loaned back to Metz?
They might be going up though. 3rd currently although the French playoff system is pretty tough, would need to play winner of a 4th vs 5th playoff then 18th from Ligue 1.

But I’d really like him, looks great!
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Post by Woonderbah » Fri May 26, 2023 11:03 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 7:16 pm
Iniesta is one of my favourite all time players, I doubt I’d be able to contain myself if I thought I’d see him in a Burnley shirt!
David Silva is two years younger than Iniesta, still playing in La Liga and a former team mate of VK.. either on a one year contract could be interesting

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 26, 2023 11:19 am

I know it's early and I know most links are just adding our club name, to make the magical 3 clubs interested that agents like, but we don't seem to be getting linked with any central midfielders.
Which is the most important position we need to strengthen if we are to play keep ball.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri May 26, 2023 11:24 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 11:19 am
I know it's early and I know most links are just adding our club name, to make the magical 3 clubs interested that agents like, but we don't seem to be getting linked with any central midfielders.
Which is the most important position we need to strengthen if we are to play keep ball.
Lokonga from Arsenal
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by claretburns » Fri May 26, 2023 11:54 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 10:59 am
They might be going up though. 3rd currently although the French playoff system is pretty tough, would need to play winner of a 4th vs 5th playoff then 18th from Ligue 1.

But I’d really like him, looks great!
It is different this season as moving forward France Ligue 1 will only be 18 teams. So it is the bottom 4 in Ligue 1 relegated and only the top 2 in Ligue 2 promoted, no play offs.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 26, 2023 11:58 am

claretburns wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 11:54 am
It is different this season as moving forward France Ligue 1 will only be 18 teams. So it is the bottom 4 in Ligue 1 relegated and only the top 2 in Ligue 2 promoted, no play offs.
Ah, didn’t know that. Thanks.

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