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Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 10:55 pm
by Vegas Claret
100 Million plus add ons all agreed to Real Madrid, good move for him and England

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 pm
by Lip
This is why football is a joke. Sooner somebody gets the superleague idea back up and running the better. Let's get rid of these money rich clubs and get back to a fair play system ..If there is one.🤔

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:11 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Lip wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 pm
This is why football is a joke. Sooner somebody gets the superleague idea back up and running the better. Let's get rid of these money rich clubs and get back to a fair play system ..If there is one.🤔
No need to worry, all of this money will inevitably cause a financial vacuum and we will all be able to enjoy watching each of these 'super rich' clubs implode.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:28 pm
by Tricky Trevor
After last Sundays Vinicius incident I’m surprised any player of colour would want to go to that country until they solve the problem.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:37 pm
by Claret3495
If that figure is correct, it is a steal. (Using the benchmark of Pogba at £90m and Neymar at £200m +)

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:46 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Lip wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 pm
This is why football is a joke. Sooner somebody gets the superleague idea back up and running the better. Let's get rid of these money rich clubs and get back to a fair play system ..If there is one.🤔
It is a joke, but this was said 20 years ago. Not going to happen.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:47 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:28 pm
After last Sundays Vinicius incident I’m surprised any player of colour would want to go to that country until they solve the problem.
What problem? A few pricks out of 50-60,000? Why would any player ‘of colour’ want to come to England after a few dickheads abused saka after the 2020 euros?

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:56 pm
by JellyBaby
It’ll be a long time before it’s solved in Spain unfortunately

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:58 pm
by ClaretTony
Lip wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 pm
This is why football is a joke. Sooner somebody gets the superleague idea back up and running the better. Let's get rid of these money rich clubs and get back to a fair play system ..If there is one.🤔
Getting a superleague up and running would only make things worse.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
by Woodleyclaret
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:47 am
by Vegas Claret
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:18 am
by nyclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.
Surely a windup?

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:21 am
by bobinho
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:28 pm
After last Sundays Vinicius incident I’m surprised any player of colour would want to go to that country until they solve the problem.
£5m a year might soften the blow…

Now, if he’d refuse the move and reveal the reason to be Spains recent issues with race and the lack of any significant steps to deal with it, now that really WOULD be something…

Anyway, fantastic talent, absolutely top class footballer.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:35 am
by arise_sir_charge
nyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 7:18 am
Surely a windup?
No, he’s actually serious. Didn’t he say recently he’d rather have Josh Brownhill than Jude Bellingham?

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:42 am
by Lancasterclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.
Crikey!

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:47 am
by Swizzlestick
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.
I give up on some of you lot.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:58 am
by Burnley1989
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:47 pm
What problem? A few pricks out of 50-60,000? Why would any player ‘of colour’ want to come to England after a few dickheads abused saka after the 2020 euros?
I’m sure I read that all but two of those tweets came from accounts in Asia, not that it makes it right.

I think he’s world class, great move for him

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:02 am
by Woodleyclaret
Why would any non white player want to play in Spain ?
They have some of the most racist fans in Europe and a gutless football authority who won't act to stamp out abuse.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:04 am
by Woodleyclaret
Just on a personal note.I said Bellingham is average and I wish him well in his career.I don't subscribe to the hype some fans get sucked into.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:05 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 6:40 am
Good luck to Bellingham a player of very average ability talked up by pundits and his agent.Nice work if you can get it.
:D :D this is why your posts never fail to amuse.

Still fair play to you, I know nothing at all about american football so would never be brave enough to join a forum a repeatedly post things displaying this lack of knowledge, you don't let that stop you with football so fair play

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:16 am
by Tricky Trevor
bobinho wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 7:21 am
£5m a year might soften the blow…
Now, if he’d refuse the move and reveal the reason to be Spains recent issues with race and the lack of any significant steps to deal with it, now that really WOULD be something…
Anyway, fantastic talent, absolutely top class footballer.
He could, probably, get the same money from Utd/City/Chelsea.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:57 am
by Lancasterclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 8:04 am
Just on a personal note.I said Bellingham is average and I wish him well in his career.I don't subscribe to the hype some fans get sucked into.
No one who understands what it takes to be a modern centre midfielder can call him "average"

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 9:23 am
by Tribesmen
Not sure about him myself also , seem the type from the media is way too much .

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:10 am
by AfloatinClaret
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 8:57 am
No one who understands what it takes to be a modern centre midfielder can call him "average"
Come on, it's just a bit of hyperbole by Woodley, even he realises that Bellingham's a cut above... but he's not Robbie Blake (yet)

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:28 am
by Juan Tanamera
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:47 pm
What problem? A few pricks out of 50-60,000? Why would any player ‘of colour’ want to come to England after a few dickheads abused saka after the 2020 euros?
Enough of a problem for a respected professional like Xavi to comment on ?


https://www.football-espana.net/2023/05 ... -president

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:56 am
by Claret Toni
So in spite of Vinnie signing a new 5 year contract it looks like he's chosen the money, glamour and prestige over the honour and privilege of doning the famous claret and blue.

Well each to his own. I just hope he doesn't live to regret it.

We move on to the next target. Declan Rice anyone?

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:17 pm
by bobinho
I see rice more in the Cullen role, so declan would have to bide his time on the bench…

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:24 pm
by jrgbfc
You must have incredibly high standards if you really think Bellingham looks "average".

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:53 pm
by NottsClaret
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible he just doesn't understand averages.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:57 pm
by CoolClaret
You have to remember that Bellingham is 19 and is already asserting himself as a dominant player in centre midfield, which is arguably the hardest position on the park.

His tenacity, dribbling/ ball carrying skills are very, very good

Is he still a little raw? Yeah but he’s going to learn off Ancelotti and will be playing/learning off Valverde, Kroos /Modric (depending on if they stay) - which is only good news not only for Jude but for England

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:45 pm
by Longsider
I'm sorry but for all of Alan Pace's talk of backing Kompany in the transfer window, why were we not even in the picture for signing this lad. Real lack of ambition.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:05 pm
by Stanbill05
For Englands sake I just hope he plays every week, not guaranteed at a club like that. Although watching Madrid v City, I don't think there is too much risk even if he has tough spell.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:11 pm
by Sheedyclaret
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Thu May 25, 2023 11:47 pm
What problem? A few pricks out of 50-60,000? Why would any player ‘of colour’ want to come to England after a few dickheads abused saka after the 2020 euros?
It was more than a few pricks at the mestalla last week more like a few thousand

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 11:49 am
by Swizzlestick
Named Bundesliga player of the season https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65745978

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 3:55 pm
by Claret Toni
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Mon May 29, 2023 11:49 am
Named Bundesliga player of the season https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65745978
Yeah but what do the 4 times world cup winners Germany know about football.

Woodleyclaret has this lad sussed. ;)

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:00 pm
by ClaretTony
Longsider wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 5:45 pm
I'm sorry but for all of Alan Pace's talk of backing Kompany in the transfer window, why were we not even in the picture for signing this lad. Real lack of ambition.
And it looks as if we’ve missed out on his brother Jobe too. He’s in advanced talks with Sunderland.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon May 29, 2023 4:00 pm
And it looks as if we’ve missed out on his brother Jobe too. He’s in advanced talks with Sunderland.
Wasn't he reputed to be better than Jude?

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:43 pm
by equinox
Southgate wanted another tournament because of this kid, Bellingham will win us the next one (obviously with a bit of help from the others).

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:56 pm
by Rowls
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm
Wasn't he reputed to be better than Jude?
It's less likely he'd be going to Sunderland if he were better than Jude.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:57 pm
by ClaretTony
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm
Wasn't he reputed to be better than Jude?
I very much doubt that

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 7:17 pm
by Indecisive
Someone calling Jude Bellingham 'average' is peak uptheclarets. :lol: :lol:

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:49 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
£115 million, confirmed by Real today, on a 6yr deal

Their second most expensive signing behind Hazard

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:03 pm
by jlup1980
How is he still only 19 - it feels like he's been around for ages already?! What a talent this boy is. We should be building the England team around him - he's that good! I can't understand anyone saying he's average... that's just baffling. Had we pulled off his signature I would have happily said we'd finally replaced John Deary :D

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:19 pm
by claptrappers_union
It'll be interesting to track this lad's career on the messageboard in one super thread. Could we merge these threads below with this one

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48740
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48663
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69544

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:21 pm
by Archer
claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:19 pm
It'll be interesting to track this lad's career on the messageboard in one super thread. Could we merge these threads below with this one

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48740
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48663
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69544
Digging up old posts is always fun. Lots of egg on faces about Bellingham. Quite a few good ones in your own locker too, particularly around Easter last year.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:32 pm
by Silkyskills1
CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 4:57 pm
You have to remember that Bellingham is 19 and is already asserting himself as a dominant player in centre midfield, which is arguably the hardest position on the park.

His tenacity, dribbling/ ball carrying skills are very, very good

Is he still a little raw? Yeah but he’s going to learn off Ancelotti and will be playing/learning off Valverde, Kroos /Modric (depending on if they stay) - which is only good news not only for Jude but for England
Hardest( most difficult) position on the pitch is goalkeeper. No other outfield player can do that job.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:40 pm
by Devils_Advocate
claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:19 pm
It'll be interesting to track this lad's career on the messageboard in one super thread. Could we merge these threads below with this one

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48740
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48663
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69544
Opinions change fast....
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 03, 2023 6:50 pm
An excellent move for him .
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri May 26, 2023 8:02 am
Why would any non white player want to play in Spain ?
They have some of the most racist fans in Europe and a gutless football authority who won't act to stamp out abuse.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:15 pm
by Pickles
Sixth Englishman to play for Real Madrid. Can we name them? Quite easy.

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:32 pm
by Stalbansclaret
Off the top of my head can think of Owen, McManaman and Woodgate

Re: Jude Bellingham

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:38 pm
by taio
Laurie Cunningham and David Beckham. Can't think of a sixth Englishman.