Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

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Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon May 29, 2023 8:48 am

My first ever visit to Turf Moor to watch Burnley was in August 1950 to watch Burnley play Blackpool. I remember it was a 0-0 draw and the ground was packed partly due to Stan Matthews playing for Blackpool. Does anybody have a copy of this 1950/51 Burnley v Blackpool programme for sale?

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 9:46 am

0-0 it was in August 1950 with Burnley having won 2-1 at Bloomfield Road eight days earlier with two Billy Morris goals. Attendance at the Turf was 38,688.

I'm not sure you will find someone with a copy of the programme to sell, might be worth looking on Ebay.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by martin_p » Mon May 29, 2023 9:48 am

We did get better attendances prior to the Norman Conquest, lost a lot of supporters in those battles (and against the Vikings as well)
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon May 29, 2023 9:49 am

martin_p wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 9:48 am
We did get better attendances prior to the Norman Conquest, lost a lot of supporters in those battles (and against the Vikings as well)
I always knew we had a more ' mature ' readership on here 😉

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by distortiondave » Mon May 29, 2023 9:49 am

I believe we lost to France in the 1066 world cup final but I don't think any Burnley players were in the squad.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by dsr » Mon May 29, 2023 9:50 am

martin_p wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 9:48 am
We did get better attendances prior to the Norman Conquest, lost a lot of supporters in those battles (and against the Vikings as well)
I think the Battle of Stamford Bridge was where hooliganism really got going?

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by 4:20 » Mon May 29, 2023 9:50 am

Twas a while back. We played in blue and white in those days of yore
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by mdd2 » Mon May 29, 2023 10:07 am

Beat you by 10 days DesiC. 0-1 to Areholes another last minute winner by them. Think it went in off the crossbar

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon May 29, 2023 10:49 am

My father worked in Retail always had to work on a Saturday, so I was limited to midweek night games for quite a few seasons.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon May 29, 2023 10:52 am

What was the capacity of Turf Moor in the 1950/51 season, somebody told me it was over 50,000?

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 11:08 am

DesiC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 10:52 am
What was the capacity of Turf Moor in the 1950/51 season, somebody told me it was over 50,000?
It was over 50,000. The last time there was over 50,000 at a game was in 1962 against Everton in the FA Cup.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by claretblue » Mon May 29, 2023 11:10 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 10:07 am
Think it went in off the crossbar
think you mean string mdd2! 8-)

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 1:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 11:08 am
It was over 50,000. The last time there was over 50,000 at a game was in 1962 against Everton in the FA Cup.
Officially, maybe, but in reality nowhere close....

.....Fast forward 11 months....and literally fighting for breath in the CF end.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 1:45 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:41 pm
Officially, maybe, but in reality nowhere close....

.....Fast forward 11 months....and literally fighting for breath in the CF end.
If you mean Liverpool it was under 50,000.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 1:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:45 pm
If you mean Liverpool it was under 50,000.
Like I said, officially maybe.....but the reality was very different.......Never, ever, known anything like it in the CF end....I'm stood next to Liverpool fans and seriously fighting for breath.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 2:05 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:48 pm
Like I said, officially maybe.....but the reality was very different.......Never, ever, known anything like it in the CF end....I'm stood next to Liverpool fans and seriously fighting for breath.
And certainly less than for the Everton game the year before - that was unbelievable.

Liverpool game, we were front of Longside near where all the snow had been piled up.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 2:17 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 1:48 pm
Like I said, officially maybe.....but the reality was very different.......Never, ever, known anything like it in the CF end....I'm stood next to Liverpool fans and seriously fighting for breath.
The downside is, I'm bragging to the Liverpool guy next to me, we'll see of you off at Anfield.....

.......And somehow after extra-time, and an extraordinary goal Alex Elder, we still contrive to lose the game.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm

But here's the thing.....no matter what the record books might tell you....26th Jan.'63 is probably the the only time an attendance in excess of 56,000 has ever been seen on Turf Moor......in fact it was considerably more....as anyone on the CF end stand that day will attest to.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:37 pm

Where's the OP ?......Never understood this....Starts a topic then disappears.

Adamson, Cummings & Bray.

Sounds like Harry Potts (of all people) misses an easy chance in the last few minutes....Dad would be furious.

Mac just a few games away......then plays successive game forever.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Loyalclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:47 pm

Sometimes people post and don't come back. To be fair to the OP it was only this morning when they made the thread!

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Nori1958 » Mon May 29, 2023 4:48 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:37 pm
Where's the OP ?......Never understood this....Starts a topic then disappears.

Adamson, Cummings & Bray.

Sounds like Harry Potts (of all people) misses an easy chance in the last few minutes....Dad would be furious.

Mac just a few games away......then plays successive game forever.
Has anyone mentioned where he can get a programme? If not what is he supposed to come on and say?
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm

Hey Royboy I am still here, my main interest on this thread is my first Burnley game v Blackpool in August 1950 and in particular to try and get a copy of the programme so I could reminisce a little more and recreate my memories before I forget them forever. I have no problem at all with you taking my topic in a completely different direction as I enjoyed reading your memories of that Liverpool game.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:48 pm
Has anyone mentioned where he can get a programme? If not what is he supposed to come on and say?
The very first response is where he might get at a programme.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm

Hey Royboy I am still here, my main interest on this thread is my first Burnley game v Blackpool in August 1950 and in particular to try and get a copy of the programme so I could reminisce a little more and recreate my memories before I forget them forever. I have no problem at all with you taking my topic in a completely different direction as I enjoyed reading your memories of that Liverpool game.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 4:59 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm
But here's the thing.....no matter what the record books might tell you....26th Jan.'63 is probably the the only time an attendance in excess of 56,000 has ever been seen on Turf Moor......in fact it was considerably more....as anyone on the CF end stand that day will attest to.
Despite your fantasy world believing it was a record attendance at the Turf, let’s get back to reality and confirm the attendance was under 50,000. And the ground had four sides.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:01 pm

DesiC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm
Hey Royboy I am still here, my main interest on this thread is my first Burnley game v Blackpool in August 1950 and in particular to try and get a copy of the programme so I could reminisce a little more and recreate my memories before I forget them forever. I have no problem at all with you taking my topic in a completely different direction as I enjoyed reading your memories of that Liverpool game.
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No worries DesiC......this late error from, of all people, Harry Potts, is giving Dad nightmares.

Mac was soon to assume the No.10 jersey for ever.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:59 pm
Despite your fantasy world believing it was a record attendance at the Turf, let’s get back to reality and confirm the attendance was under 50,000. And the ground had four sides.
No fantasy world, the official attendance was 49,827.....but the actual figure was far, far, higher.....no matter your attendance on the wall on the Longside Lower.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:13 pm
No fantasy world, the official attendance was 49,827.....but the actual figure was far, far, higher.....no matter your attendance on the wall on the Longside Lower.
If you say so, I’m bored with it now.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Royboyclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm
If you say so, I’m bored with it now.
Not like you to be bored with factual figures.....but fair enough.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by mdd2 » Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 2:51 pm
But here's the thing.....no matter what the record books might tell you....26th Jan.'63 is probably the the only time an attendance in excess of 56,000 has ever been seen on Turf Moor......in fact it was considerably more....as anyone on the CF end stand that day will attest to.
Frozen out on January 26th due to the big freeze

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by sjb » Mon May 29, 2023 11:12 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm
Frozen out on January 26th due to the big freeze
Not quite sure what you mean by this? The game was played on January 26th. The replay was exactly a month later at Anfield.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by ClaretinJapan » Tue May 30, 2023 12:06 am

I've got a programme for the 1947 match v Blackpool at Turf Moor. Same cover. Handed down from my to dad to my brother then to me. It's hanging together. Keep meaning to frame it.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Bfc » Tue May 30, 2023 7:32 am

DesiC, I’m out of the Country for a couple of weeks and will have a look in my old programmes, for a copy of it, for you, on my return.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by dougcollins » Tue May 30, 2023 7:40 am

distortiondave wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 9:49 am
I believe we lost to France in the 1066 world cup final but I don't think any Burnley players were in the squad.
Yep, one in the eye for us.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Tue May 30, 2023 8:07 am

Thank you BFC much appreciated

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Tue May 30, 2023 8:10 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm
Frozen out on January 26th due to the big freeze
Yes the Big Freeze affected lots of games but this one at Turf Moor on 26th Jan 1963 still went ahead.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Tue May 30, 2023 8:12 am

Bfc wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:32 am
DesiC, I’m out of the Country for a couple of weeks and will have a look in my old programmes, for a copy of it, for you, on my return.
Thank you, much appreciated.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by mdd2 » Tue May 30, 2023 9:59 am

sjb wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 11:12 pm
Not quite sure what you mean by this? The game was played on January 26th. The replay was exactly a month later at Anfield.
I checked on CT's results section from 62-63 season and assumed it was correct BUT there is a typo and the date should be Jan 26th but has it down as December 26th
I think the replay which was lost in the 120th minute, not unlike poor Barnsley, was Mac's last game for us

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by sjb » Tue May 30, 2023 10:19 am

DesiC wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 4:55 pm
Hey Royboy I am still here, my main interest on this thread is my first Burnley game v Blackpool in August 1950 and in particular to try and get a copy of the programme so I could reminisce a little more and recreate my memories before I forget them forever. I have no problem at all with you taking my topic in a completely different direction as I enjoyed reading your memories of that Liverpool game.
Desi - the programme you need is currently being offered for sale on eBay. Starting bid of £3.99 & 1 bid received.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Tue May 30, 2023 10:35 am

sjb wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:19 am
Desi - the programme you need is currently being offered for sale on eBay. Starting bid of £3.99 & 1 bid received.
Thx, I will be bidding for that programme next Sunday, my track record in terms of winning Ebay auctions is not great.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue May 30, 2023 11:49 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm
If you say so, I’m bored with it now.
Not surprised. I was at the Liverpool game in 1963 but mum wouldn't let me.go to the one v Everton the season before. It was in the middle of 'the big freeze' but a slight thaw enabled the game to go ahead. Think some sort of pellets were used on the pitch,too, to effect a thaw but I stand to be corrected on that one.
A lot of very noisy support from a buoyant Liverpool, just promoted to the First Division. Kevin Lewis put them ahead in the first half (just over 12 months later he missed a penalty for Huddersfield in a 3-0 5th round fa cup tie win for us. John Connelly equalised right after half time.
Surprised it took so long for the replay especially with Liverpool being next to the sea but suffice to say it was mind- numbingly cold and even the sea froze over in some parts. 1-1 and last minute of extra time and we had a goal kick. Ref ready to blow for full time but Adam kicked the ball straight at Ian St. John, who was then fouled by Adam as he tried to go around him. Penalty put away by Alf Moran and that was that.
Mc's last game for us, he was wearing the No 10 shirt but unlike Royboyclaret I always thought he made the No 8 shirt his own. When Andy Lochhead came.into the team replacing Jimmy Robson Andy wore 8 and Mc took up the No 10 shirt. What was definite was the end of an era led by the guile of Jimmy McIlroy.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:53 pm

sjb wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:19 am
Desi - the programme you need is currently being offered for sale on eBay. Starting bid of £3.99 & 1 bid received.
Lots of activity on Ebay regarding that programme with 3 days still to go, price is now heading towards £20.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by sjb » Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:42 am

DesiC wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:53 pm
Lots of activity on Ebay regarding that programme with 3 days still to go, price is now heading towards £20.
I have it in my collection but will be watching with interest. Hope you win it.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:53 pm

Thank you to the " OP ", you've just prompted me to buy a copy of the Programme for my first Clarets game which I've been meaning to do for years .... West Ham v Burnley, August 1975 !!
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by DesiC » Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:51 pm

sjb wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:42 am
I have it in my collection but will be watching with interest. Hope you win it.
Great news. I won the Ebay auction this evening, I ended having to pay £42 plus postage for the Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 programme. I am sure even Jimmy McIlroy wasn’t being paid anywhere near £42 a week in the 1950/51 season.
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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by DesiC » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 9:46 am
0-0 it was in August 1950 with Burnley having won 2-1 at Bloomfield Road eight days earlier with two Billy Morris goals. Attendance at the Turf was 38,688.

I'm not sure you will find someone with a copy of the programme to sell, might be worth looking on Ebay.

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:37 pm

DesiC wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:00 pm
I have been looking on Ebay for a couple of years and this programme has never come up for sale and then would you believe it this programme came up on an EBay auction last week which ended last night. I made sure I got it but it cost me £42 plus postage.
Well done - hopefully I’ll have the same luck with one I’ve been searching for

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by sjb » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:37 pm
Well done - hopefully I’ll have the same luck with one I’ve been searching for
Which one is it?

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1050/51 match

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:18 pm

sjb wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Which one is it?
FA Cup v Hartlepools (with the s) in 1952

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Re: Burnley v Blackpool 1950/51 match

Post by Bfc » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:18 pm

I’m still away Tony, but will have a look if I have it, on my return Will let you know either way, sometime later this week.

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