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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:25 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:24 pm
It’s why you see VAR really only overturn offsides and very poor decisions. VAR is something that could be used so much better but unfortunately it isn’t.
They manage ok in other countries. It seems it is just us that mess it up. It is only as good as the person operating it. Unfortunately, they aren't very good.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon May 29, 2023 5:25 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:22 pm
Please be offside after that celebrating
You knew didn't you? 😀

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by theonlywayisup » Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm

Isted in Barnsley's goal has been quality.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm

Norwood has some energy!

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 29, 2023 5:28 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:25 pm
They manage ok in other countries. It seems it is just us that mess it up. It is only as good as the person operating it. Unfortunately, they aren't very good.
100%. First thing I would do is make their discussions be broadcasted live on the tv coverage and replays in grounds.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:29 pm

Now would be a very good time to score. Bobby Thomas step up. :)

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:29 pm

theonlywayisup wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm
Isted in Barnsley's goal has been quality.
On loan from Luton but only played three games for them. Had a good afternoon so far.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:30 pm

If it stays the same they are one penalty taker down.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 29, 2023 5:31 pm

Bobby Thomas has been really good along with Isted.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:31 pm

Commy wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:30 pm
If it stays the same they are one penalty taker down.
So are Barnsley with Phillips sent off

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:32 pm

theonlywayisup wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:27 pm
Isted in Barnsley's goal has been quality.
Absolutely.
And surely if it goes to penos, he'll be a big plus for them

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon May 29, 2023 5:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:31 pm
So are Barnsley with Phillips sent off
Sheff Wed are also “down” a penalty taker because of that red card

If it goes to sudden death they have to nominate a player not to take one so it’s 10 players each

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by sjb » Mon May 29, 2023 5:36 pm

Tim Robinson still has some credit in the bank for not giving the Barstewards a penalty when Ashley stuck out an arm at Deadwood in the Championship clinching game...

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:36 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:34 pm
Sheff Wed are also “down” a penalty taker because of that red card

If it goes to sudden death they have to nominate a player not to take one so it’s 10 players each
One of their choice though. Phillips is their penalty taker.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:38 pm

Wednesday won it

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Casper2 » Mon May 29, 2023 5:39 pm

Oh no

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 29, 2023 5:39 pm

That’s beyond brutal.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon May 29, 2023 5:39 pm

Very harsh on Barnsley

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:39 pm

What a shocking clearance

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 29, 2023 5:40 pm

Barnsley did not deserve that

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon May 29, 2023 5:40 pm

Gutted for them

That’s brutal

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:40 pm

Brutal and 100% down to Tim Robinson
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by HahaYeah » Mon May 29, 2023 5:40 pm

Drat.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Casper2 » Mon May 29, 2023 5:41 pm

Gutted for Duffers

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:41 pm

Poor old Bobby Thomas as well, gutted

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by claretspice » Mon May 29, 2023 5:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
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Brutal and 100% down to Tim Robinson
This is rubbish, nasty and vindictive and should be called out as such. Inexcusable.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Quicknick » Mon May 29, 2023 5:42 pm

Disappointed. Quite like Barnsley. Definitely do not like Wednesday.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 29, 2023 5:43 pm

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by RVclaret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:43 pm

claretspice wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:42 pm
This is rubbish and vindictive and should be called out as such. Inexcusable.
He made a game changing error unfortunately
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by theonlywayisup » Mon May 29, 2023 5:44 pm

Barnsley were the better side. Heartbreak. Gutted for Duffo. Hard for 10 men in this weather. Think Barnsley may have won it but for sending off.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by theonlywayisup » Mon May 29, 2023 5:45 pm

Barnsley were the better side. Heartbreak. Gutted for Duffo. Hard for 10 men in this weather. Think Barnsley may have won it but for sending off.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:45 pm

claretspice wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:42 pm
This is rubbish, nasty and vindictive and should be called out as such. Inexcusable.
two incorrect decisions Spice, choose your words wisely

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Cubanforever » Mon May 29, 2023 5:45 pm

That was beyond cruel

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by claretspice » Mon May 29, 2023 5:46 pm

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He made a game changing error unfortunately
1. Its not clear to me he made an error, and if he did Its an honest and understandable one in real time.

2. Lots happened after that, including Barnsley missing chances.

3. Its outrageous to target one individual like that. Refs have an impossible job and deserve a little more respect. Its just unpleasant and nasty.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon May 29, 2023 5:46 pm

Feel so sorry for Barnsley. Robinson is a homer as we felt at Sunderland and Blackburn, Wednesday were the big club so virtually at home today with all their fans.

The decisions were poor refereeing decisions by Robinson not VAR initially. I am in a minority of one with the penalty so will rewatch that later with my glasses on, but the red card we all agree on and that decided the game because they ran out of legs by the end.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by bfcjg » Mon May 29, 2023 5:48 pm

Fantastic header to win it,gutted for Barnsley but with SWFC's points tally over the season they deserved it.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:49 pm

claretspice wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:46 pm
1. Its not clear to me he made an error, and if he did Its an honest and understandable one in real time.

2. Lots happened after that, including Barnsley missing chances.

3. Its outrageous to target one individual like that. Refs have an impossible job and deserve a little more respect. Its just unpleasant and nasty.
give over, stonewall penalty not given and it totally changes the game. Robinson has been woeful all season in the Championship and yet he gets given the final. Why does the Championship final get Michael Oliver and yet today they get Robinson and a VAR official who bottled it. It's not vindictive and like I said, choose your words carefully.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by RickyBobby » Mon May 29, 2023 5:50 pm

Robinson had one view of the challenge in real time. If you want to blame someone blame them on VAR. I dislike Robinson yes, he is an awful ref, but it wasn’t a poor challenge. It was a stupid one from Benson and he was taking a massive needless risk. VAR at the option to let the ref look at it again and didn’t, that isn’t Robinsons fault. On only 1 viewing in real time thinks can look completely different, that is why VAR was brought in. If var decides not to act you can’t blame the in field officials.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon May 29, 2023 5:53 pm

It isn't really down to Tim Robinson, it's more down to whoever is on var.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon May 29, 2023 5:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:49 pm
give over, stonewall penalty not given and it totally changes the game. Robinson has been woeful all season in the Championship and yet he gets given the final. Why does the Championship final get Michael Oliver and yet today they get Robinson and a VAR official who bottled it. It's not vindictive and like I said, choose your words carefully.
What is interesting is he is bottom half of our Rate The Ref despite us winning every game he reffed in.

I do think though that both were tough decisions, we can all debate VAR intervention but ‘live’ we can see why he did what he did. He is a homer / big club ref, but he also deserves some credit, did some good things, played some good advantages.

Has there ever been a team to get a critical goal with seconds to go in both the semi and final?

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 29, 2023 5:53 pm

Gutted for Barnsley. Would’ve loved to see Duff do his dance on the Wembley steps again!

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:53 pm
What is interesting is he is bottom half of our Rate The Ref despite us winning every game he reffed in.

I do think though that both were tough decisions, we can all debate VAR intervention but ‘live’ we can see why he did what he did. He is a homer / big club ref, but he also deserves some credit, did some good things, played some good advantages.

Has there ever been a team to get a critical goal with seconds to go in both the semi and final?
He's a woeful ref but I do concur with what others have said above that it's just as much the VAR that let him down

Weds deserved to go up on the season they had but two last second goals has surely used up all their luck

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 pm

Here we go, pundits already starting the “Sheff Wednesday shouldn’t be in league one”… gonna hear it every week about Leeds next season too…

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm

Josh Windass gave arguably the most ungracious interview I’ve seen post game. Came across as a right tosser.
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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Commy » Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm

Duff has a young team and will use this to fuel them.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm
Josh Windass gave arguably the most ungracious interview I’ve seen post game. Came across as a right tosser.
agree 100%

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 29, 2023 5:58 pm

Only saw the last few minutes. So sorry for Duffy and our exs.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 29, 2023 5:59 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm
Josh Windass gave arguably the most ungracious interview I’ve seen post game. Came across as a right tosser.
Agreed and I suspect it’s why a talented player like him is in League One. Came across dreadful, even seemed to have a dig at his Dad.

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Mon May 29, 2023 6:01 pm

Mugged Duff right off there didn’t he?

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Re: Barnsley v Owls Playoff

Post by NottsClaret » Mon May 29, 2023 6:02 pm

Watched it in deepest South Yorkshire.. very entertaining. Barnsley fans took it well, Wednesday fans obviously delighted. Barnsley deserved more on the day but over the season it’s probably fair. I reckon Duff will take them up next year, some right basket cases gone down from the Championship.

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