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Post by jtv » Tue May 30, 2023 11:18 am

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And Connor Roberts will give him a piggy back to Besiktas  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Weghorst

Post by turfytopper » Tue May 30, 2023 11:31 am

surely fake news? Though I cannot see him playing for us. Would love United to sign him for £15m

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Pickles » Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am

Very obviously a fake quote.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am

Pickles wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am
Very obviously a fake quote.
The amount of people fooled by this kind of thing is honestly staggering
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Re: Weghorst

Post by jedi_master » Tue May 30, 2023 11:36 am

Clearly not real, imagine Casemiro saying that :D

I’d expect Weghorst at our ‘pre-pre season’ Portugal training camp in a few weeks as a contracted player. It will be interesting what happens with him, not sure we’ve ever had a remotely similar situation to this before.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Pickles » Tue May 30, 2023 11:39 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am
The amount of people fooled by this kind of thing is honestly staggering
I remember when Technically Ron and Bearded Genius did stuff like this on Twitter ten years ago, some funny witty stuff. But surely anyone who's been on the internet for ten minutes can spot when something is so blatantly made up. Like you say though, staggering how many people believe anything if it's on the web. Makes the summer transfer window especially tedious.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Tue May 30, 2023 11:44 am

The Club needs to do a good PR job on him - he’s a valuable asset. You can’t blame him for having his moment in the sun for his Country in the World Cup and his subsequent time at ManU.

Perhaps if he would now show his commitment to BFC in pre-season and publicly explain the reasons for his departure (with an apology) he could win back the fans - as Granit Xhaka did at Arsenal.

We as fans should also be prepared to do our bit and meet him halfway - the Club will be all the more stronger as a result.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by CleggHall » Tue May 30, 2023 11:55 am

But the fact remains he is simply not good enough to play in the PL, for United, Burnley or even Luton.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by jojomk1 » Tue May 30, 2023 12:00 pm

His open goal miss against Fulham (plus countless others) means a loan back to Turkey is about our best hope

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 30, 2023 12:03 pm

Try sell him for 5-6m and just get him gone

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Re: Weghorst

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 30, 2023 12:04 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am
The amount of people fooled by this kind of thing is honestly staggering
Think everybody knows it’s a parody quote! :lol:

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 30, 2023 12:22 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:36 am
Clearly not real, imagine Casemiro saying that :D

I’d expect Weghorst at our ‘pre-pre season’ Portugal training camp in a few weeks as a contracted player. It will be interesting what happens with him, not sure we’ve ever had a remotely similar situation to this before.
He will do well to be in two places at once, given he will be playing for Netherlands in the Nations League while we are in Portugal.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Gp8419 » Tue May 30, 2023 12:25 pm

I remember kompany saying we have double checked the recall option after his wc goals and there was no option to recall.probably a clean slate for weghorst with no financial pressure on the club.Would it be the most bizarre thing to Happen if he played for us again I think not.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 30, 2023 12:29 pm

As for Weghorst himself, I think he’d be a useful part of the squad from a playing perspective but I’m just not sure his ego is suited to the culture Kompany has been building here. The other week he was making comments that suggested he wasn’t happy being on the bench at United, imagine if he’s benched at Burnley? Will he really go from playing at the Nou Camp and Old Trafford to Burnley? I don’t have anything massively against him and he’s engineered a decent career from being a driven character but not sure it’s with us anymore.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Bosscat » Tue May 30, 2023 12:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 12:04 pm
Think everybody knows it’s a parody quote! :lol:
Surely not ... who would joke about stuff like that 🙄

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue May 30, 2023 12:31 pm

He’ll definitely be better staying in the Netherlands when he plays for the national team. There are more brothels there for him to score in, although I doubt he’d score in one of those tbh.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Tribesmen » Tue May 30, 2023 12:42 pm

Just think he will be gone soon enough , now would not shock me if wheels are moving as i type .

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Re: Weghorst

Post by trawlen » Tue May 30, 2023 12:50 pm

My favourite player
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Jellybean » Tue May 30, 2023 1:42 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 12:42 pm
Just think he will be gone soon enough , now would not shock me if wheels are moving as i type .
I get the feeling the first minute of the transfer window opening he will announce his new club!

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Re: Weghorst

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue May 30, 2023 2:10 pm

Jellybean wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 1:42 pm
I get the feeling the first minute of the transfer window opening he will announce his new club!
Our new feeder club in Belgium :geek:
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Elizabeth » Tue May 30, 2023 6:57 pm

Jellybean wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 1:42 pm
I get the feeling the first minute of the transfer window opening he will announce his new club!
I'll help him. Nobody will be interested !

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 30, 2023 7:14 pm

send him to Turkey, take the loss, we can't have him upsetting this man, he's our new Ashley Barnes
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Commy » Tue May 30, 2023 7:23 pm

Have we not already made money on him with loan fees? We won't be hit with a big loss if we have and we sell him.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by beddie » Tue May 30, 2023 7:28 pm

Has he gone yet. :x

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue May 30, 2023 7:40 pm

Commy wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:23 pm
Have we not already made money on him with loan fees? We won't be hit with a big loss if we have and we sell him.
loan fee was about £2.6m from memory (might be wrong here)
We are still stuck with our initial outlay and trying to get that back.
Another big issue is that if we can’t get rid of him we are left with a player on probably £2.5m to £3m a year which could be totally out of line with the wage structure for the rest of the team.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretPete001 » Tue May 30, 2023 7:48 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:40 pm
loan fee was about £2.6m from memory (might be wrong here)
We are still stuck with our initial outlay and trying to get that back.
Another big issue is that if we can’t get rid of him we are left with a player on probably £2.5m to £3m a year which could be totally out of line with the wage structure for the rest of the team.
Yes the loan fees are to pay for the wages and do not touch capital. Interesting one this one because apart from the PL he has always scored goals and has played quite a number of games for Man Utd - despite that I'm not sure he has enhanced his reputation.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by equinox » Tue May 30, 2023 7:48 pm

He costs us 7m spread over 3 years, we won't lose much, if any.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue May 30, 2023 8:26 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:48 pm
Yes the loan fees are to pay for the wages and do not touch capital. Interesting one this one because apart from the PL he has always scored goals and has played quite a number of games for Man Utd - despite that I'm not sure he has enhanced his reputation.
Agreed - he’s a centre forward who failed to score a goal in a United team that has made loads of chances whilst he’s been there and have lost very few games.
Not only that he’s ended up missing a few sitters which unlike the sitters he missed for Burnley get magnified exposure at United.
All this has kind of taken away from his decent touch and build up play or even the fact that the manager picked Weghorst to start games a lot more than anybody expected.
I don’t think a PL team are going to want to buy a centre forward who has shown such a poor record in front of goal in this league.
The best we can hope for is someone thinks he can do a job in a much weaker league - like the Dutch or Turkish leagues and somehow they can afford his wages……or we might end up stuck with him or virtually giving him away to get him off our books and so the buying team can afford to pay him the same wage with the much reduced transfer fee.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by trawlen » Tue May 30, 2023 8:28 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 8:26 pm
Agreed - he’s a centre forward who failed to score a goal in a United team that has made loads of chances whilst he’s been there and have lost very few games.
Not only that he’s ended up missing a few sitters which unlike the sitters he missed for Burnley get magnified exposure at United.
All this has kind of taken away from his decent touch and build up play or even the fact that the manager picked Weghorst to start games a lot more than anybody expected.
I don’t think a PL team are going to want to buy a centre forward who has shown such a poor record in front of goal in this league.
The best we can hope for is someone thinks he can do a job in a much weaker league - like the Dutch or Turkish leagues and somehow they can afford his wages……or we might end up stuck with him or virtually giving him away to get him off our books and so the buying team can afford to pay him the same wage with the much reduced transfer fee.
But he works hard for the team...

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue May 30, 2023 8:31 pm

trawlen wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 8:28 pm
But he works hard for the team...
So would I for £50k a week but I’m 56 and not got the pace I used to have
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Re: Weghorst

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 30, 2023 8:38 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:48 pm
He costs us 7m spread over 3 years, we won't lose much, if any.
Not sure where you got that figure from but I’d imagine it’s about right. I think a lot of the reported fee will’ve been performance related and quite clearly none of that will be due.

Very much doubt we’ll struggle to shift a regular player for Man United for a few that will at least cover our losses.

But I still think he’ll end up at Man U. ETH still plays him despite not scoring much. He obviously values him in some way. They want shut of Martial, looks like it’ll be tough to get Kane & if they do it’ll cost a fortune so a cheap back up striker on low wages will be just the ticket. I hope.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by beeholeclaret » Tue May 30, 2023 8:43 pm

My other half took me along to the Man United v Fulham game on Sunday and I was hoping to see Weghorst get a chance to prove he can do a job for the Reds next season.

He came on as a substitute for the last 15 minutes. He showed all his usual willingness to run with his loping gait amusing the fans a little as he burst forward to support their attack.

He had a good chance to break his PL duck in stoppage time but miserably failed to hit the target from close in. To be fair to him (and I’ve noticed this on a number of occasions) he had made a good early run into space but Sancho took an extra turn and dallied on the ball. By the time he put the ball in for Weghorst he had a defender breathing down his neck which I think put him off a little?

Good player but can’t see him fitting into a closely knit squad that VK has built. Hope he has another gig lined up away from Turf.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue May 30, 2023 8:54 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 12:31 pm
He’ll definitely be better staying in the Netherlands when he plays for the national team. There are more brothels there for him to score in, although I doubt he’d score in one of those tbh.
This is what I can't fathom. His scoring record in Germany borders on exceptional. Did we just get the lanky Timo Werner and German based Strikers just don't cut it in the EPL?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by clive40golf » Tue May 30, 2023 10:02 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 8:31 pm
So would I for £50k a week but I’m 56 and not got the pace I used to have
I bet you may still be faster 👍🏻

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed May 31, 2023 11:26 am

In the press today that Man United will not be signing loan players Weghorst and Sabitzer.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Clarets4me » Wed May 31, 2023 11:56 am

Not sure where I heard it, but I'm sure VK has said that he's attempted to contact him on a number of occasions, but he never answers his phone, or it's off, I'm fairly sure that the quote included a quote along he lines of " perhaps he's forgotten how to speak English " ... It doesn't auger well.

Certainly, Dutch players have a history of falling out with Clubs, each other and National squad coaches ...

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Re: Weghorst

Post by clarethomer » Wed May 31, 2023 12:01 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:56 am
Not sure where I heard it, but I'm sure VK has said that he's attempted to contact him on a number of occasions, but he never answers his phone, or it's off, I'm fairly sure that the quote included a quote along he lines of " perhaps he's forgotten how to speak English " ... It doesn't auger well.

Certainly, Dutch players have a history of falling out with Clubs, each other and National squad coaches ...
I saw that on a tweet a few days ago - no source though from memory so just put it down to a parody type post/account.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by daveisaclaret » Wed May 31, 2023 12:04 pm

The Kompany "quote" was a joke tweet.

Still can't believe people thought Manchester United were going to spend £10 million quid on this bloke, proper baffling.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed May 31, 2023 12:37 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:32 am
The amount of people fooled by this kind of thing is honestly staggering
I'm a bit gullible myself, but I get around that by ignoring all links or copied and pasted stuff that I see online; intead I just rely on what's posted directly to the UTC messageboard, that way I can be sure it's not coming from some troll, bullshooter wind-up merchant or moron.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Claret Toni » Wed May 31, 2023 12:51 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:37 pm
I'm a bit gullible myself, but I get around that by ignoring all links or copied and pasted stuff that I see online; intead I just rely on what's posted directly to the UTC messageboard, that way I can be sure it's not coming from some troll, bullshooter wind-up merchant or moron.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Weghorst

Post by FCBurnley » Wed May 31, 2023 12:54 pm

My prediction is we will terminate his contract by mutual consent and he will then miraculously sign a nice 3 year deal with another club whilst pocketing a substantial signing on fee in lieu of a fee. This is pure speculation on my part.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by jlup1980 » Wed May 31, 2023 12:56 pm

I don't see him being brought back into the VK set up. However, stranger things have happened. He would clearly need to prove his commitment to the team and the fans though.

If he proves that his attitude is right he could be the perfect replacement for Barnes. He's a Dutch International and he has a good goal scoring record everywhere but the PL! His size and hold-up play could be crucial and could help get our more creative players on the ball. He could well be a different proposition with quick, skillful players around him.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by dermotdermot » Wed May 31, 2023 1:10 pm

He’s a complete and utter donkey. He simply needs to be put out to graze.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by claret2018 » Wed May 31, 2023 2:17 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:56 pm
He's a Dutch International and he has a good goal scoring record everywhere but the PL!
Unfortunately that’s where we’re playing next season

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Re: Weghorst

Post by trawlen » Wed May 31, 2023 2:49 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:56 pm
I don't see him being brought back into the VK set up. However, stranger things have happened. He would clearly need to prove his commitment to the team and the fans though.

If he proves that his attitude is right he could be the perfect replacement for Barnes. He's a Dutch International and he has a good goal scoring record everywhere but the PL! His size and hold-up play could be crucial and could help get our more creative players on the ball. He could well be a different proposition with quick, skillful players around him.
My argument is that there are players who can hold a ball just as well as him but can also score. He's had enough of a run with a stronger team than ours to prove himself and he hasn't managed it.

That combined with his attitude not only for wanting to leave Burnley which I sympathised with him at first for, but he seems big-headed. His want to start games will block other players from developing and getting enough game time.

I understand people want to give him a chance but remember when we get to mid season and he's not doing well and gets dropped, how do you think he will respond? It will end badly for us.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed May 31, 2023 2:54 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:56 am
Not sure where I heard it, but I'm sure VK has said that he's attempted to contact him on a number of occasions, but he never answers his phone, or it's off, I'm fairly sure that the quote included a quote along he lines of " perhaps he's forgotten how to speak English " ... It doesn't auger well.

Certainly, Dutch players have a history of falling out with Clubs, each other and National squad coaches ...
He might pick up his phone if we stop paying him.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by beddie » Wed May 31, 2023 3:08 pm

I also get the impression that V K worked his magic regarding team bonding, mentality, etc, I just don’t think V K would allow anyone to come into the squad and break that with an arrogant attitude problem which I believe Weghorst has.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed May 31, 2023 3:09 pm

Expected to start the Fa cup final as Uniteds only fit striker.

Massive chance to show off his ability to the world.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by beddie » Wed May 31, 2023 3:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 3:09 pm
Expected to start the Fa cup final as Uniteds only fit striker.

Massive chance to show off his ability to the world.
Or rather his inability. :(

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Longsider » Wed May 31, 2023 3:36 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:56 am
Not sure where I heard it, but I'm sure VK has said that he's attempted to contact him on a number of occasions, but he never answers his phone, or it's off, I'm fairly sure that the quote included a quote along he lines of " perhaps he's forgotten how to speak English " ... It doesn't auger well.

Certainly, Dutch players have a history of falling out with Clubs, each other and National squad coaches ...
If that's true we need shut off him
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