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ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:17 am
by ClaretTony
Moving into the last century and the first decade which ends in tragedy

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/a-decade-i ... 00-to-1910

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:36 am
by DanH90
Some great articles Tony - gone back and read your earlier ones. I know it’s been mentioned on here before, but does anyone for certain know where the old Calder Vale ground was located. The one place I can think of is the recreation ground near Clifton Street, which currently is being built on by Burnley College. Anyone have any idea for certain?

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:54 am
by ClaretTony
I always thought it was in that area but I'm sure one or two on this message board were able to place it when it was discussed previously.

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:37 pm
by mdd2
Keep up the good work CT-these yester-year articles are brilliant for someone like me who has always loved history, but never done anything about it.

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:57 pm
by Tricky Trevor
DanH90 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:36 am
Some great articles Tony - gone back and read your earlier ones. I know it’s been mentioned on here before, but does anyone for certain know where the old Calder Vale ground was located. The one place I can think of is the recreation ground near Clifton Street, which currently is being built on by Burnley College. Anyone have any idea for certain?
With so many mills and a reservoir in that area surely it had to be the rec.
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Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:38 pm
by sjb
The referee who stopped the game because it was snowing was Herbert Bamlett - he went on to referee our 1914 FA Cup Final win against Liverpool, but perhaps more tellingly, was appointed manager of Manchester United in 1927....

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:49 pm
by Rowls
The M65 really does scar the town doesn't it?

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:39 pm
by ClaretTony
sjb wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:38 pm
The referee who stopped the game because it was snowing was Herbert Bamlett - he went on to referee our 1914 FA Cup Final win against Liverpool, but perhaps more tellingly, was appointed manager of Manchester United in 1927....
That was him

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:06 pm
by DanH90
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:57 pm
With so many mills and a reservoir in that area surely it had to be the rec.
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I think so…even more of a shame that it’s now being built on! If there was definitive proof that it was our first home they could have prevented it on heritage grounds.

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:09 pm
by ClaretTony
We did once try to get a blue plaque on Burtons given it was where the decision was made to move permanently to football but couldn’t get any support for it.

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:41 pm
by elwaclaret
Great read, but Burnley was far from a poor town at the time; up until the 1920’s Burnley had continued to prosper. New mills that had sailed through the Lancashire famine in far better shape than any other town in East Lancashire, advanced calico printing had proved a Godsend to the town.

From the twenties things got very rough in town, but prior to that Burnley was flying. I’ve just down Masters Essays on both the Lancashire famine/economy and the change from folk football up to the launch of the League… there were three meetings to set up the league: the first called by Burnley, the second by Accrington and the third called by Accrington (who had been chucked out for fielding a pro player and Burnley who had only just joined the FA after refusing to accept forced amateur status, that was chaired by Bolton Wanderers.

Re: ARTICLE: A decade in a lower division – Burnley FC 1900 to 1910

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:34 pm
by elwaclaret
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:57 pm
With so many mills and a reservoir in that area surely it had to be the rec.
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Not looked at Calder Vale (it wasn’t relevant to the piece I was doing), but will do. Did look where the Cricket club team hailed from though, as usual sources were mixing up Burnley and Barnsley (yes it goes that far back they did it). The cricket club developed from the ‘new’ weaving shed at trafalgar mill. They needed a recruitment drive as they switched from spinning to weaving and a manager hit on the idea of a cricket team, that ended up after travelling around Burnley a while before settling at Turf Moor, the land they’d rented the season prior to a spell at Duke Bar (if memory serves, on the last bit).

Burnley FC earliest pro’s were given day jobs at Trafalgar Mill and Massey’s brewery.