Not as much as the FA Cup.
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Major trophies Premier League, Fa Cup, Champions League
Second rate trophies League Cup, Europa League
Minor trophy Europa Conference
And I’d give anything to see us win or get to the final of any of them.
Second rate trophies League Cup, Europa League
Minor trophy Europa Conference
And I’d give anything to see us win or get to the final of any of them.
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The one thing that I have liked about tonight and this season is that they have taken European Football seriously. By doing that their league form suffered but they are reaping the rewards tonight. Villa celebrated getting into the Conference next season.
I just hope that if we get into Europe again we play our strongest side rather than taking it as an inconvenience with the Thursday/Sunday games.
I just hope that if we get into Europe again we play our strongest side rather than taking it as an inconvenience with the Thursday/Sunday games.
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Not entirely true - it’s a bit confusing if honest but the Cup winners cup merged with the UEFA cup in 99, to be the UEFA cup which eventually became the Europa League after a merger with the intertoto cup.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:16 pmOf course it’s a major trophy. And the Europa League replaced the UEFA Cup, not the Cup Winners Cup.
This is a third tier European competition.
I don’t think it’s a major honour but it’s just an opinion
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Our FA Cup record with him was mixed to be honest. The League Cup was worse.
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Spent a small fortune to get to Istanbul only to watch one of the most half arsed performances I've ever seen.
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Yes, like all cup competitions we played in under dyche
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Well done to West Ham for taking it seriously. Their fans will remember tonight long after countless mid-table PL finishes have been forgotten.
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Spot on - they’ve just given their fans a night to remember.agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:27 pmWell done to West Ham for taking it seriously. Their fans will remember tonight long after countless mid-table PL finishes have been forgotten.
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A place in the EL makes it a major trophy.
From higher up, the Fairs Cup was replaced by the Europa League in 1971. The CWC was scrapped in 1999 with cup winners going into the EL.
From higher up, the Fairs Cup was replaced by the Europa League in 1971. The CWC was scrapped in 1999 with cup winners going into the EL.
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Oh I'll never be convinced otherwise. We could offer players European football and had an abysmal transfer window.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:28 pmI still think that was when the first bit of rot began to start setting...
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What must the players think, they spend all year trying to get in Europe yet when they get there they are dropped, in the away match at Olympiakos we went with Gibson and Long at the back with Tarks on the bench.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:28 pmI still think that was when the first bit of rot began to start setting...
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That’s why we go surely? For those once in a blue moon successes (or at least that’s why most fans go outside of the big 6).ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:28 pmSpot on - they’ve just given their fans a night to remember.
When I look back at my time so far, I’d say that night at York, Wembley 94, Wembley 09, the home game against Wigan, then the Boro & Rovers games this season stand out. I think even a Carabao Cup win might top the lot for me, because of the clubs you’d have to do better than to win it.
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Don't get me wrong I'd love Burnley to win this but its a 3rd rate tin pot competition its not a major trophy, its the equivalent of the egg and spoon race or the three legged race on sports day at schoolTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:30 pmA place in the EL makes it a major trophy.
From higher up, the Fairs Cup was replaced by the Europa League in 1971. The CWC was scrapped in 1999 with cup winners going into the EL.
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Yeah - it was criminal looking back wasn’t it?!
Would’ve been ‘more’ understandable if we’d have gotten a random team from the arse end of nowhere but Olympiacos are big.
Bet the lads were gutted
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Was it?Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:30 pm
From higher up, the Fairs Cup was replaced by the Europa League in 1971.
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According to wiki. DL were the last winners of the Fairs Cup and the EL started the following season.
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Well done West Ham.
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If you give a manager a £2/3m bonus for staying in the Premier league, he will always priotise that than fans enjoyment.
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Buzzing for Moyes, good guy
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That was the turning point for me with Dyche. I could never forgive that.AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:38 pmDon't get me wrong I'd love Burnley to win this but its a 3rd rate tin pot competition its not a major trophy, its the equivalent of the egg and spoon race or the three legged race on sports day at school
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What a shame for West Ham. Winning a European trophy in THAT shocker of a kit.
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Chuffed for Moyes he’s always been one of the good guys and to see him that happy after was great to see.
He’ll be sacked next season though when they loose a few games.
He’ll be sacked next season though when they loose a few games.
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Now I think the inter cities Fairs Cup was replaced by the cup winners cup.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:41 pmAccording to wiki. DL were the last winners of the Fairs Cup and the EL started the following season.
I don't think the Europa League came into existence until about 2009/2010. Certainly not in 1971.
However, I do stand to get corrected.
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Have to say that is when I lost a lot of respect for him. Was never anti-Dyche, but I didn’t hang on his every word after he sacrificed our chance at Europe.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:58 pmThat was the turning point for me with Dyche. I could never forgive that.
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This. At that point he was gone in my mind. It was unforgivable, small minded and, ultimately (after Fulham away), pointless.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:58 pmThat was the turning point for me with Dyche. I could never forgive that.
The flip side, well done West Ham who took it seriously and did what they needed to do. Chuffed for Maxi who didn’t play much but didn’t deserve to go down with us and had a weird injury that ruined his season. Was lording it up at the end though like he’d just played 90 minutes
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Are West Ham now in the Europa League next season as winners of the Europa Conference League and if so does that kick Aston Villa or Brighton out of their spots? I have no idea how it all works.
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their decision to have a victory parade on Thursday night when the majority of fans who were in Prague will still be in Prague is staggering
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And the Anglo-Scottish Cup in '78. I was there.agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:08 pmWould love us to win any cup.
Been 109 years hasn’t it, unless we’re counting the Charity Shield?
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That's just wrong. The correct scenario was posted further up the thread.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:41 pmAccording to wiki. DL were the last winners of the Fairs Cup and the EL started the following season.
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So if we get into the final the season after next you wouldn't celebrate a win ?AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:38 pmDon't get me wrong I'd love Burnley to win this but its a 3rd rate tin pot competition its not a major trophy, its the equivalent of the egg and spoon race or the three legged race on sports day at school
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Fantastic for West Ham and this is great competition. Fans of clubs without a nation state backing them can have a realistic chance of a night of European glory.
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Well done West Ham, chuffed for Moyes. A genuine honest footballing man in a culture full of rats.
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Pleased for West Ham who whenever I saw the reports of previous rounds they seemed to have gone full strength in games, also pleased for Moyes who is a decent guy.
Never got this arrogant approach from clubs & fans of which cups are tinpot, Spurs deciding to give up due to it being beneath them was fairly dumb (even more so when they win nothing year after year) and seeing Burnley fans mock it is even weirder. Not sure where this arrogance comes from when fans of club decide which competitions are beneath them.
They are probably the first to criticise any club when they play a weaker side in a game
Never got this arrogant approach from clubs & fans of which cups are tinpot, Spurs deciding to give up due to it being beneath them was fairly dumb (even more so when they win nothing year after year) and seeing Burnley fans mock it is even weirder. Not sure where this arrogance comes from when fans of club decide which competitions are beneath them.
They are probably the first to criticise any club when they play a weaker side in a game
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I didn't want West Ham to win. I've found them to be the most anti-northern fans of all the London clubs. Also, seeing a bunch of their thick idiots threateningly scream 'There's only West Ham that plays in Claret & Blue' into the face of an elderly Burnley fan, while he was travelling on the Tube, didn't exactly endear me towards them.
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Read what the first ten words that I wroteClaret Till I Die wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:14 amSo if we get into the final the season after next you wouldn't celebrate a win ?
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Yeah he joined the team on the podium and picked up his medal.
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That’s exactly why we go. To get those big days is what it’s all about.agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:37 pmThat’s why we go surely? For those once in a blue moon successes (or at least that’s why most fans go outside of the big 6).
When I look back at my time so far, I’d say that night at York, Wembley 94, Wembley 09, the home game against Wigan, then the Boro & Rovers games this season stand out. I think even a Carabao Cup win might top the lot for me, because of the clubs you’d have to do better than to win it.
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Mixed, but unimpressive.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:25 pmOur FA Cup record with him was mixed to be honest. The League Cup was worse.
Contrived to lose some very winnable games.
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But also went out to Arsenal, Spurs & Man City twice, all of them away from home. Add to that the Lincoln defeat, when we fielded a really strong team and then the last two years. It was the League Cup really that was poor with defeats against Port Vale, Accrington, Burton and Sunderland.dougcollins wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:52 amMixed, but unimpressive.
Contrived to lose some very winnable games.
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Some people will still argue Dyche didn’t throw Europe, our back four was Bardsley Gibson Long Ward, with Taylor at left midfield. Absolutely shocking lack of ambition and a shocker of a performance.
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Slagging off a European trophy as tinpot whilst celebrating an EFL title win, classic UTC forum madness.
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Scary to see how many Burnley fans now claim they turned on Dyche because we had a poor transfer window (not Dyche's fault), some injuries (not Dyche's fault) and Tarkowski wasn't fit enough to play (not Dyche's fault) after we qualified for Europe (Dyche's fault).
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Saw some worse for wear Hammers wandering around this morning on my travels