Ashes Thread 2023

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:40 am

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:25 am
Close of play on the opening day perhaps

I think you knew what I was implying.
But to answer the question
The only ever 500+ score on the First day of a Test was England's 506 against Pakistan last year, although we did make 481 in an ODI innings in 2018 against Australia.
Australia made 475 in a day against England back in the 1930s
I can't find any record of England scoring 450 + in a day against Australia, but I'll keep looking.

Hbclaret007 · Post by **Hbclaret007** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:02 pm

Listening to TMS. Great to get some articulate insights from Alister Cook, instead of the crap Tufnell spouts.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:03 pm

Been a good watch, this morning.
Crawley is looking in decent form.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:03 pm

Englands first hour.

66-1 off 13 overs

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:18 pm

Can't believe they didn't even appeal that Crawley nick there. Can you imagine Ponting letting that go?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:22 pm

Really bizarre that they missed that.

Hopefully Crawley uses that luck to get a big one. He’s batted really well so far.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:26 pm

Pope out for reviewed LBW

Root now in

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:26 pm

Think my eyes are going.
Was with the umpire then, thought that pitched outside.

2 down.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:26 pm

Crawley now hit the 50

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:27 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:26 pm
Think my eyes are going.
Was with the umpire then, thought that pitched outside.

2 down.

Just in line.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:38 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:26 pm
Think my eyes are going.
Was with the umpire then, thought that pitched outside.

2 down.

Your eyes are fine.
I think its one of them. You'd be really unlucky to be given out in real time by the onfield umpire as it appeared to be pitching outside, but the technology showed that it just pitched in line.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:39 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:38 pm
Your eyes are fine.
I think its one of them. You'd be really unlucky to be given out in real time by the onfield umpire as it appeared to be pitching outside, but the technology showed that it just pitched in line.

Your right, nil.
Took the slow mo replay to convince me.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:42 pm

On a great backing track I think the Aussies will be slightly the happier of the teams

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:02 pm

That’s a sickener for England just on the point of lunch.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:03 pm

124/3 at lunch.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:03 pm

How did the umpire miss that one as well?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:03 pm

Cracking delivery from Boland that. Shame for England and Crawley in particular who had played beautifully.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:04 pm

Given them the edge that 3rd wicket.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:04 pm

Another dismissal following review

Crawley edges off his glove

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:06 pm

Aussies will be delighted with three wickets. Decent scoring rate but three in the wickets column is massive in the first session.

Evenly balanced but I'd say that wicket makes it Australia's session.

Big afternoon coming.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:33 pm

We need a couple of tons from 2 of the next 4. If aussies can bowl us out under 300 they will be delighted

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:10 pm

We'll need a minimum of 450 on this wicket .

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:16 pm

England are well on top here, treating their bowlers like they are Lowerhouse 2nd teamers.

The great sign is we're not scared of them.
Despite the mouthing off before the game, the Aussies backed down from the confrontation. Going on the defensive and hoping for mistakes.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:19 pm

Head hasn’t had a great 20mins

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:27 pm

37 overs to send down a maiden.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:28 pm

How unlucky is that!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:28 pm

Very unlucky there Brook.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:29 pm

Well that was a flukey wicket

Unlucky Brooks. Hits him on back of the leg after going high in air and bounces onto the wicket

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:33 pm

Dangerous times now.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:33 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:29 pm
Well that was a flukey wicket

Unlucky Brooks. Hits him on back of the leg after going high in air and bounces onto the wicket

Bizarrely it didn't hit him again

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:34 pm

Stokes nearly gives his wicket away!

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:35 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:33 pm
Bizarrely it didn't hit him again

Yeah just seen that on the replay from the bowling end

****. Stokes given out

Going to review

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:35 pm

Uh oh.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:36 pm

Balls. Gone for 1

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:37 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:33 pm
Dangerous times now.

Spot on.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:37 pm

Stokes throws away a review pointlessly.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:37 pm

If we are not careful we could be all out for less than 250

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:38 pm

Need to show some guts now.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:39 pm

I should have stayed in bed.......we were doing alright before.

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:45 pm

Giving cheap wickets away again, why can't we just dig in for a while and bat sensibly, the aussies were always going to come out fighting after lunch, they'd have felt that the match could be won or lost in this session and it looks like that will be the case, root and bairstow need centuries now to be back in a winning position, we should have dug in and put ourselves in a position not to lose and at the same time frustrate the aussies.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:58 pm

Dreadful shot by Stones and a stupid review. Heres Johnny

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:10 pm

Second that, dreadful shot.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:45 pm

Another entertaining session. Nip and tuck.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:47 pm

How many runs do we need this innings to give us a decent shout?

Vanders1994 · Post by **Vanders1994** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:54 pm

Probably about another 140 minimum

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:54 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:47 pm
How many runs do we need this innings to give us a decent shout?

With our scoring rate and playstyle it’s hard to conceive of a draw unless there’s significant weather disruption.

To win - Christ, hard to say .. does look like a batters wicket but we won’t know till Australia bat

I’d say absolute minimum we need is 400, but I’d say more along 450, which will be a big ask from here

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:55 pm

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:06 pm

Hopefully Root & Bairstow can build this partnership and get through the rest of the day.

I’ve a feeling once one of these go, we’ll have a bit of a collapse the the tail enders

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:27 pm

Good partnership so far of 94 between Root and Bairstow.

380 about par for me. It's not playing as fast as first thought, not easy to time it to the boundaries.
Might get quicker tomorrow.

This is normally the easier session to score runs. Tired bowlers and long session.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:44 pm

Bairstow gone for 78.

Ali next in. 297-6