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Rovers living in fantasy land

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:25 pm

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Re: Rovers living in fantasy land

Post by 4midable » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:28 pm

Yeah. 15 goals hahaha

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Post by Pickles » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:33 pm

Barnes would've been an excellent signing for them.

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Post by 4midable » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:37 pm

Pickles wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:33 pm
Barnes would've been an excellent signing for them.
Barnes would be a good signing for any of the teams in that league
15 goals is a stretch tho

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Post by Sozturf7 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:39 pm

Like he would have gone.
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Post by bfcjg » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:42 pm

Barnes wouldn't go there, why join a relegation battle.
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Post by Spike » Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:12 pm

Barnes wouldn’t go he has more morals than Henderson and co

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:05 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:42 pm
Barnes wouldn't go there, why join a relegation battle.
He wouldn’t go there because, like us, he thinks of them as the bastards.

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Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:13 pm

They'll be lucky if the whole team scores 15 goals next season 🤔😅

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Post by Middle-agedClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:14 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:05 pm
He wouldn’t go there because, like us, he thinks of them as the bastards.
Well - of course, you may be his brother, and fully aware of all Ashley’s thought, views and opinions.
I don’t know him at all as an individual, but I know he is a professional footballer, with a robust, physical approach to the game, who is nearing the end of his career.Perhaps if he had received a good financial offer from any Championship club, which meant he didn’t even need to think about moving his family home, he would have been tempted.
Players are employees. Fans are fans.
See - Mo Johnson, Ashley Cole, Lee Clark, Robin Van Persie…….

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Post by Commy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:17 pm

Somewhere on their board, one of the Rovers fans said he had been talking to a Championship manager who said Barnes was wanted by every team in the Championship but most couldn't afford the £25k a week that he wanted. Not sure how true that is but it does sound right. I could see a lot of teams wanting him, especially on a free.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:23 pm

Tbf even with a decent signing on fee, spread over his contract that's not half bad. I suspect he's on closer to 40k p/w all told at Norwich

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:24 pm

Surprised we let him go. Pl experience and played great in VK system.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:26 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Surprised we let him go. Pl experience and played great in VK system.
Its the dilemma, do you move him on when he could have still had a decent half season, or have him hanging round the gaff past his useful stage?

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Post by bfcmik » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:30 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:23 pm
Tbf even with a decent signing on fee, spread over his contract that's not half bad. I suspect he's on closer to 40k p/w all told at Norwich
£25k basic plus bonusses would make it more like £50k per week.

Reminds me of the Conroy/Heath spat played out on Radio Lancs back in the 1990s. Conroy moaning that he was ONLY getting £850 per week and Heath then phoning in to say that was more than doubled every week by all the different bonus payments. He mentioned league position, result, appearance, goals, appearances in the team of the week alongside a couple of other things.

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Post by houseboy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Surprised we let him go. Pl experience and played great in VK system.
Pardon? Barnes had little or nothing to offer 2 years ago in the PL. What chance now? He scored 4 goals last season in the Championship and 2 of those were in one game. Many defenders score more. I cannot imagine many Championship clubs chomping at the bit to sign him, other than for him being free. Be interesting to see how he goes on at Norwich and I really hope he does well but I’m not gonna hold my breath.

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Post by Pickles » Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:58 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Surprised we let him go. Pl experience and played great in VK system.
I'm not at all. He had a good swansong for us to cap off a great decade or so but in reality his stay at Burnley was probably two seasons too long.

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Post by bfcjg » Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:40 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:30 pm
£25k basic plus bonusses would make it more like £50k per week.

Reminds me of the Conroy/Heath spat played out on Radio Lancs back in the 1990s. Conroy moaning that he was ONLY getting £850 per week and Heath then phoning in to say that was more than doubled every week by all the different bonus payments. He mentioned league position, result, appearance, goals, appearances in the team of the week alongside a couple of other things.
Wasn't that Kurt Nogan ?
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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:16 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:42 pm
Barnes wouldn't go there, why join a relegation battle.
Of course he would had a deal been made that suited him and his family.

At his age, coming towards the end of his career, a relegation battle probably isn't at the forefront of his mind.

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Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:47 pm

They’ve really pushed the boat this summer ,they’re even on about getting one from Marine.
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Post by Sproggy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:53 pm

I'm going to stick my neck out here, with absolutely nothing to back it up and say that Ashley Barnes would not tarnish his legacy here by signing for them just for a few extra grand a week. No chance.
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Post by Inchy » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:01 pm

Anyone who thinks barnes wouldn’t go to rovers if the money was right are thick as pig sh*t.


Listen to any football podcast. Players do not care about loyalty like fans. The vast majority are in it to earn a living.

Barnes would have not problem playing for rovers and would celebrate if he score the winner for them at turf moor.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:06 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:01 pm
Anyone who thinks barnes wouldn’t go to rovers if the money was right are thick as pig sh*t.


Listen to any football podcast. Players do not care about loyalty like fans. The vast majority are in it to earn a living.

Barnes would have not problem playing for rovers and would celebrate if he score the winner for them at turf moor.
Agree with most of that but not the last statement
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Post by Stanbill05 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:13 pm

Inchy wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:01 pm
Anyone who thinks barnes wouldn’t go to rovers if the money was right are thick as pig sh*t.


Listen to any football podcast. Players do not care about loyalty like fans. The vast majority are in it to earn a living.

Barnes would have not problem playing for rovers and would celebrate if he score the winner for them at turf moor.
"If the money was right" isn't a fair measure- of course there is a price for everything...but I know for a fact the majority of players (not all) care about their legacy too. It would cost more than Blackburn can afford for Barnes to give up his Clarets status. Ask him.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:21 pm

houseboy wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:40 pm
Pardon? Barnes had little or nothing to offer 2 years ago in the PL. What chance now? He scored 4 goals last season in the Championship and 2 of those were in one game. Many defenders score more. I cannot imagine many Championship clubs chomping at the bit to sign him, other than for him being free. Be interesting to see how he goes on at Norwich and I really hope he does well but I’m not gonna hold my breath.
Norwich have taken him because he's free, has the experience they need and also because he's undoubtedly a great person to have in the changing room.

They may not be expecting many goals from him, they're more about what he brings to the team overall

They've made a couple of signings like that
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:15 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:47 pm
They’ve really pushed the boat this summer ,they’re even on about getting one from Marine.IMG_1081.png
Sondre Tronstad? Is that an anagram of Andros Townsend?

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:22 pm

Can't believe how naive some folk are. Barnes isn't a Burnley fan, if Rovers offered him a better deal than anyone else he'd be there.

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Post by dsr » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:39 pm

houseboy wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:40 pm
Pardon? Barnes had little or nothing to offer 2 years ago in the PL. What chance now? He scored 4 goals last season in the Championship and 2 of those were in one game. Many defenders score more. I cannot imagine many Championship clubs chomping at the bit to sign him, other than for him being free. Be interesting to see how he goes on at Norwich and I really hope he does well but I’m not gonna hold my breath.
He scored 6 league and 1 cup goals, sharing duties with Rodriguez. (It was usually one or the other, not both.)

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Post by Stan Tastic » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:02 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Surprised we let him go. Pl experience and played great in VK system.
Vinny must be kicking himself he'd never thought of this.

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Post by Claretforever » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:07 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:30 pm
£25k basic plus bonusses would make it more like £50k per week.

Reminds me of the Conroy/Heath spat played out on Radio Lancs back in the 1990s. Conroy moaning that he was ONLY getting £850 per week and Heath then phoning in to say that was more than doubled every week by all the different bonus payments. He mentioned league position, result, appearance, goals, appearances in the team of the week alongside a couple of other things.
I think that was Nogan?

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Post by bfcjg » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:22 pm

I posted earlier that I thought it was Nogan.

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:32 pm

It was Nogan if I recall correctly he wanted £1000 per week.

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:41 pm

Can just picture Herve Villechaise as Simon Garner going "Da Plane ... Da Plane"

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:44 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:32 pm
It was Nogan if I recall correctly he wanted £1000 per week.
Needed more cash to cover his Panama Joe’s bar bill!
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Post by Ampth7 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:46 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:47 pm
They’ve really pushed the boat this summer ,they’re even on about getting one from Marine.IMG_1081.png
Plus their keeper has just signed for Luton. Little to no chance of them challenging this coming season I reckon.

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Post by Stayingup » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:30 pm

Pickles wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:58 pm
I'm not at all. He had a good swansong for us to cap off a great decade or so but in reality his stay at Burnley was probably two seasons too long.
Oh dear and we would have missed him knocking a certain goalkeeper in the net and scoring two in the same game. Your comment is a bit ridiculous.
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Post by Pickles » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:31 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:30 pm
Oh dear and we would have missed him knocking a certain goalkeeper in the net and scoring two in the same game. Your comment is a bit ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous?

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Post by bfcmik » Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:07 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:30 pm
Oh dear and we would have missed him knocking a certain goalkeeper in the net and scoring two in the same game. Your comment is a bit ridiculous.
A marvellous memory for sure - but Pickles has it right, 2 seasons too long, although he did fit the Dyche system well.

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Post by dsr » Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:58 am

Pickles wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:31 pm
Why is it ridiculous?
I think all comments on the lines of "last season would have been better if ..." are pretty much null and void. Last season was fantastic, Barnes was part of that. Let's not go back in time to try and change it!
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Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:13 am

Ashley was superb for us and instrumental in our promotion. Defenders hate him and with good reason.

I met Ashley after our game away at Rotherham towards the end of the season. Traffic was bad and kids were desperate to wait for the players.

He said that the rovers game at home was one of his proudest days, and he loved it. He laughed when I brought up the infamous interview and said that got him in a lot of trouble, but was smiling.

He finished by saying, let's go to their place next week and do it again!!

There is no room for sentiment in football, it's a business. I don't think that Ash was done, he gave it his all for as long as he could, and left making sure we were Champions.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:27 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:44 pm
Needed more cash to cover his Panama Joe’s bar bill!
And dry cleaning for that jacket of his

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Post by claretburns » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:56 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:47 pm
They’ve really pushed the boat this summer ,they’re even on about getting one from Marine.IMG_1081.png
Also since the post Kaminski has gone to Luton and reported Phillips will sign for Spurs this weekend.

Out of their signings Tronstad has struggled to finish 90 mins in pre-season due to hamstring issues and Sigurdsson is out for 8 weeks due to groin injury.

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Post by timshorts » Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:00 am

Are you sure they didn't mean Harvey barnes? They are, after all, a massive club.
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