England v Spain - World cup final

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by dansch » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:58 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:54 am
You wouldn’t have thought so with some of the hype in the English media before this game.

“Everything stops at 11am on Sunday as nation hopes Lionesses can Bring It Home”

was the front page headline in Friday’s Evening Standard.
How dare they

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:59 am

Croydon Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:32 am
That came from Bronze trying to be Georgina Best in the centre circle
Ran into the centre but no one to pass to. Then there was a pass back, which she didn't do, so just ran into the wall. Poor.
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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by jlup1980 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:01 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:54 am
You wouldn’t have thought so with some of the hype in the English media before this game.

“Everything stops at 11am on Sunday as nation hopes Lionesses can Bring It Home”

was the front page headline in Friday’s Evening Standard.
Its almost like the media never over hype the mens team!

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:04 pm

James and Kelly on.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:05 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:59 am
Ran into the centre but no one to pass to. Then there was a pass back, which she didn't do, so just ran into the wall. Poor.
Perhaps the only redeeming fact was that the ref blocked off the obvious pass.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:06 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:05 pm
Perhaps the only redeeming fact was that the ref blocked off the obvious pass.
2 players were available, when she looked.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:08 pm

Bronze doing some lazy things. Twice now, already.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:10 pm

Need to get on the front foot here, poor stuff from England so far.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:10 pm

Both teams have some good players, but it’s a bit like watching one of those celebrity charity football matches.

Not all that enjoyable, really.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Hurstwood_Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:10 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:04 pm
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Not funny

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm

England can now be backed at 16/1.

Spain 2/5.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm

That last England chance should have been a corner?

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm

England could have scored but the cross looked offside so probably wouldn't have counted anyway

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:13 pm

Didn’t think the women were meant to roll round and exaggerate? Spain 14?

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:13 pm

Blatherwickstattoo wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:44 am
The standard is absolutely shocking. Like watching a bunch of kids kicking and rushing
How can the standard be absolutely shocking? It’s the World Cup final.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:13 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm
England can now be backed at 16/1.

Spain 2/5.
Seems extremely generous when all it takes is a scrappy set piece to equalise and it to go to penalties.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:14 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:56 am
I've always struggled to see anything in her play that merits her reputation (and value).
I think she’s an athlete but obviously that fades with age
It’s just the arrogance of telling the other player where to be rather than just playing what’s in front of you, that irks me

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by NewClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:14 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm
That last England chance should have been a corner?
I thought that. No yellow either imo.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:18 pm

Playing a lot better this half

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:19 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:13 pm
Seems extremely generous when all it takes is a scrappy set piece to equalise and it to go to penalties.
I would guess the bet would only be a result in 90 mins

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

I really hope we somehow find a way to win this but the Spanish players look so superior technique wise.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

Not looking good VAR penalty check

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:18 pm
Playing a lot better this half
Really? Not seeing it myself.
Spain still dominating.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:23 pm

Does the ref ever overturn a decision when they get asked to check the screen?

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:24 pm

Hand in an unnatural position?
- at the side of her body where it would naturally be

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:24 pm

Never a pen.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Look where the ref is standing, is this such a clear and obvious mistake

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Saved
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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by taio » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Clear pen

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Waiting for the decision is like death by a thousand cuts.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:26 pm

Ref couldn’t wait for it to be about her

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:26 pm

Not a pen for me

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by 4:20 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:26 pm

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:26 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:23 pm
Does the ref ever overturn a decision when they get asked to check the screen?
Nope


Shoe would have had to have placed her arm into an unnatural position to avoid the ball

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:27 pm

Never seen the ref speak to the stadium before, that's pretty cool.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:27 pm

real shame we’ve looked off it against a good Spanish side. We can play much better than this, similar to the men’s final in that sense

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:27 pm

Justice!!

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:27 pm

Fantastic save

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:27 pm

Get in Mary Earps you are fantastic

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:28 pm

Massive save and kept hold

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:28 pm

That could be a game changer

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:28 pm

To the letter of the law it was a penalty. In reality these should never be.
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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:28 pm

Got to make that a turning point.
Buck up England

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm

In fact looking at the replay, it should probably have been retaken, looked off the line well before the ball was kicked.
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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by CombatClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm

I'm no lip-reading expert... 🤣
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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by 4:20 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm

penalty should've been retaken

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm

Earps read it all the way.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm
In fact looking at the replay, it should probably have been retaken, looked off the line well before the ball was kicked.
She was.

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:30 pm

4:20 wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:29 pm
penalty should've been retaken
Exactly

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Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:30 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:28 pm
To the letter of the law it was a penalty. In reality these should never be.
Yeah I agree, not keen at all. If it takes 5 minutes to make a decision it’s not clear & obvious, not what VAR should be used for but we’ve had this argument and debate on here many times
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