RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

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RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:02 pm

Please only RtR if you attended the game at Turf Moor today and only after the game has ended. Thank you!

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Darren England (South Yorkshire) v Tottenham

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A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:12 pm

I never mark the officials, however, one question today is how do JBG and Brownhill get booked for tackles which win the ball fair and square but the Spurs players roll around on the pitch, whilst Emerson comes on and puts a studs up challenge in, doesn't win the ball and is not booked, in spite of leaving Cullen in a heap on the pitch. I really have given up with all this crap.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by MDWat » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:22 pm

Again, a referee that had no influence on the result, but one who was woefully inconsistent.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:23 pm

dreadful dreadful dreadful, fell for it every time a Spurs player screamed, booked Brownhill for winning the ball, gave 2 free kicks in the first half to Spurs where there was ZERO contact. Truly awful

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:27 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Beagleheart » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:02 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:04 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:11 pm

Maddison was the ref essentially.

Just bizarre inconsistencies. Two incidents five minutes apart show what we are up against. Second half, our free kick on halfway. Makes a big fuss over where to take it from. Drags it back five and allows them to stand on it. Spurs five minutes later. Five yards from where it should be taken and let's it slide. Just constant marginal gains to the opposition from **** poor referees.


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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by RVclaret » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:27 pm

Shocker. Amazingly booked Brownhill for a clean and fair tackle, while missing Sarr’s two footed lunge for their second goal. Oh and why the VAR doesn’t disallow that goal I don’t know.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by timshorts » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Shocker. Amazingly booked Brownhill for a clean and fair tackle, while missing Sarr’s two footed lunge for their second goal. Oh and why the VAR doesn’t disallow that goal I don’t know.
Well mike dean in the studio had no idea why the footballers watching it had doubts. It turned out that he had just checked the badge, and completely missed the possible offside.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:35 pm

Total shite no application of the rules re winging and several fouls ignored
2nd goal yrds offside

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Father Jack » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:50 pm

Spurs second goal came from a GK which should have been our corner. Linesman near CFS was hopeless

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by dsr » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:52 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:11 pm
Just bizarre inconsistencies. Two incidents five minutes apart show what we are up against. Second half, our free kick on halfway. Makes a big fuss over where to take it from. Drags it back five and allows them to stand on it.
He was waiting for clearance from the VAR man that the previous tackle shouldn't be a red card.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:19 pm

He was dreadful, but didn't cause us to lose the game, thank goodness. The guy's an idiot!

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by sjb » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:01 pm

He wasn't even going to give a free kick against Brownhill and rightly so, until the Spurs player screamed at him and out came the yellow card. How Madison wasn't booked for simulation is beyond me.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:10 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:52 pm
He was waiting for clearance from the VAR man that the previous tackle shouldn't be a red card.
What has that got to do with being pedantic over placement for our free kick and not their free kick? Nothing to stop him intervening and asking for the free kick to be taken from the correct position for Spurs. He didn't blow up and allowed it. He only notices when having a chat with VAR? That makes it worse. The game was littered with poor decisions from him and they favoured Spurs generally.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by Rowls » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:35 pm

I cannot mark him down as having a stinker because the game, with the scoreline bring what it was effectively played itself out without the need for firm refereeing.

However there were massive red flags for me in the manner he made mistakes.

He overruled his linesman to incorrectly award spuds a throw early in the first half despite his linesman clearly trying his best to indicate otherwise. How often do linesmen even *try* to correct a referee these days? He really should have got the hint.

Frankly he reffed like a frightened rabbit at the start of the game. There were many other areas of inconsistencies and poor decision making that others have pointed out.

If we get this referee against one of the established big clubs I'll have zero confidence.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:18 pm

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Starstruck referee (starstruck by Madison). Championship Referee at best.
Madison essentially refereed the game.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by IanMcL » Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:04 pm

Hopeless.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by dsr » Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:58 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:10 pm
What has that got to do with being pedantic over placement for our free kick and not their free kick? Nothing to stop him intervening and asking for the free kick to be taken from the correct position for Spurs. He didn't blow up and allowed it. He only notices when having a chat with VAR? That makes it worse. The game was littered with poor decisions from him and they favoured Spurs generally.
He couldn't allow the free kick to be taken because the VAR man was reviewing. So (for some strange reason) he got pedantic about the placement. He still wouldn't let it be taken for a few seconds after it was in the right place.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by superdimitri » Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:48 am

Failed to control the game. Encouraged cheating and discouraged tackling.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:14 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:58 pm
He couldn't allow the free kick to be taken because the VAR man was reviewing. So (for some strange reason) he got pedantic about the placement. He still wouldn't let it be taken for a few seconds after it was in the right place.
I owe you an apology fella, I was being awkward after the bad result. Sorry.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Tottenham

Post by dsr » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:58 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:14 pm
I owe you an apology fella, I was being awkward after the bad result. Sorry.
Thanks for the apology, but not needed. There was nothing objectionable in your posts, just a difference of opinion which is of no consequence at all.

Cheers anyway. :)

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