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Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:28 pm

Spate of outhouse break ins around the Barlick area last night. Anyone in this area needs to lock stuff up well and be prepared. I know one has been caught on CCTV. The scumbags been breaking in with metal cutters and taking off hinges with screwdrivers. Probably looking for high value items as leaving some tools including power tools. May spread to other immediate areas or may come back. No confidence that the police will do anything useful. This is where a vicious dog could be useful !
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by dougcollins » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:37 pm

Probably not a good time to advocate that people keep a vicious dog.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:24 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:37 pm
Probably not a good time to advocate that people keep a vicious dog.
If a dog grips a burglar I’m not sure it is too bad.
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by jos » Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:09 pm

I hope the burglars are wearing a stripped shirt, a black mask and carry a swag bag, otherwise they may get completely ignored by my pooch.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:55 pm

I was in my local last night, talking to 5-6 of my mates.
I live in a new build and I’ve never once used my alarm in 3 years, I wouldn’t even know how to use it and that’s ridiculous.

Out of 6 of us, only one of used used it and he’s 67!
That terrible when you think about it, all our insurance will be void. If I’m in the house, with me dog, I don’t need my alarm but if I’m out, my terrier isn’t going to do much.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Shaggy » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:28 am

You don’t need an alarm just a Rottweiler.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Walton » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:30 am

Who keeps their dog in the outhouse?

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Shaggy » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:42 am

Walton wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:30 am
Who keeps their dog in the outhouse?
I never read that part. Too early in the morning. My bad

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by TsarBomba » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:22 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:28 pm
Spate of outhouse break ins around the Barlick area last night. Anyone in this area needs to lock stuff up well and be prepared. I know one has been caught on CCTV. The scumbags been breaking in with metal cutters and taking off hinges with screwdrivers. Probably looking for high value items as leaving some tools including power tools. May spread to other immediate areas or may come back. No confidence that the police will do anything useful. This is where a vicious dog could be useful !
Has the CCTV footage been passed to the Police?

Burglars are generally career criminals, and there is a very good chance, if it’s a decent mug shot, that the suspect will be known. It’s imperative the cctv still/footage gets sent in asap.

It’s all about trying to make your house/property as difficult to break in to as possible. Most theft offences are opportunistic. Security lights, cctv, house alarm, making sure doors and windows are locked etc goes a long way. Also, a lot of people forget to lift the handle up on the front door to engage the multi locking system, which makes it easy to pop the door open with a flat head screwdriver.

Basically, you want a burglar to look at your property and think ‘no, there’s easier properties to target’. I appreciate protecting out buildings is a little bit more problematic, especially if your property backs on to an alleyway, has side access or if you have a bit of land.

And I agree re the Police response to burglaries- it really is pathetic. And I’ve never really understood why it’s so difficult to identify these people. Is it a team or an individual? What are they taking/who are they targeting? Do they have vehicles? What type? What is their modus operandi? The answer to the above questions should give you an excellent idea where to start. Is it travellers? Local kids? A prolific thief who has just been released from prison? There’s so much information to glean if an officer actually attends a scene and does a proper job.

As long as a thorough primary investigation is conducted- cctv trawl, forensics, neighbour enquiries, anpr etc, then suspects should be caught eventually.
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by bfcjg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:28 am

Feel sorry for the police on this,there are so many crimes and so few officers to investigate them. Criminals should be petrified of committing crime due to severe consequences, less crime results in more time and resources for police to investigate.
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Rowls » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:37 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:28 am
Feel sorry for the police on this,there are so many crimes and so few officers to investigate them. Criminals should be petrified of committing crime due to severe consequences, less crime results in more time and resources for police to investigate.
We have plenty of police. What is needed is prioritisation and leadership. It's not something the average copper can change, it needs to come from the top.

Too many of those who rise to the top of the profession have different priorities. The battles the Home Secretary faces on a regular basis are there for all to see.

The main shift in focus for the police should be to revert to being a "force" rather than a "service". It needs to be a force dedicated solely to the prevention, detection and investigation of crime rather than a "service" for "the community".
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Quicknick » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:39 am

Is Barnoldswick noted as a high-burglary area?

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:43 am

In this day and age , it's never been as necessary to live In a decent area to avoid stuff like outhouse burglaries, car crime and anti social behaviour.

My cars been damaged in Brierfield can anyone help with cctv or info

Shed robbed in Bacup, x, y and z taken

Scrotes running riot in Barlick

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by ALP » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:58 am

One done in Barrowford too, a garage with no CCTV

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by bfcjg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:01 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:37 am
We have plenty of police. What is needed is prioritisation and leadership. It's not something the average copper can change, it needs to come from the top.

Too many of those who rise to the top of the profession have different priorities. The battles the Home Secretary faces on a regular basis are there for all to see.

The main shift in focus for the police should be to revert to being a "force" rather than a "service". It needs to be a force dedicated solely to the prevention, detection and investigation of crime rather than a "service" for "the community".
The police have their hands tied with the amount of box ticking they have to do, at the moment crime is epidemic, put another 1000000 police in yhe gorce and if crime keeps rising as it does there still won't be enough police.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by taio » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:05 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:01 pm
The police have their hands tied with the amount of box ticking they have to do, at the moment crime is epidemic, put another 1000000 police in yhe gorce and if crime keeps rising as it does there still won't be enough police.
An extra 1,000,000 :lol:

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by bfcjg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:06 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:05 pm
An extra 1,000,000 :lol:
Didn't get time to edit as per spelling phone went 10,000
😁
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:22 am
Has the CCTV footage been passed to the Police?

Burglars are generally career criminals, and there is a very good chance, if it’s a decent mug shot, that the suspect will be known. It’s imperative the cctv still/footage gets sent in asap.

It’s all about trying to make your house/property as difficult to break in to as possible. Most theft offences are opportunistic. Security lights, cctv, house alarm, making sure doors and windows are locked etc goes a long way. Also, a lot of people forget to lift the handle up on the front door to engage the multi locking system, which makes it easy to pop the door open with a flat head screwdriver.

Basically, you want a burglar to look at your property and think ‘no, there’s easier properties to target’. I appreciate protecting out buildings is a little bit more problematic, especially if your property backs on to an alleyway, has side access or if you have a bit of land.

And I agree re the Police response to burglaries- it really is pathetic. And I’ve never really understood why it’s so difficult to identify these people. Is it a team or an individual? What are they taking/who are they targeting? Do they have vehicles? What type? What is their modus operandi? The answer to the above questions should give you an excellent idea where to start. Is it travellers? Local kids? A prolific thief who has just been released from prison? There’s so much information to glean if an officer actually attends a scene and does a proper job.

As long as a thorough primary investigation is conducted- cctv trawl, forensics, neighbour enquiries, anpr etc, then suspects should be caught eventually.
The local petrol station has been smashed in 3 times. They’ve been caught in CCTV, caught by police and not prosecuted. Known criminals. The problem is people will take the law into their own hands. If they come to my outbuilding I’m prepared for them and they’ll be in for a shock.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:35 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm
The local petrol station has been smashed in 3 times. They’ve been caught in CCTV, caught by police and not prosecuted. Known criminals. The problem is people will take the law into their own hands. If they come to my outbuilding I’m prepared for them and they’ll be in for a shock.
A 10,000 volts shock 😉

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by TsarBomba » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:43 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:25 pm
The local petrol station has been smashed in 3 times. They’ve been caught in CCTV, caught by police and not prosecuted. Known criminals. The problem is people will take the law into their own hands. If they come to my outbuilding I’m prepared for them and they’ll be in for a shock.
We’re assuming here that the owners of the petrol station wanted to provide a statement, go to court, support a prosecution etc?

If they don’t, which happens all the time, the Police hands are tied if you don’t have support of the victim.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:19 pm

I appreciate that the police are limited in what they can do and it’s very frustrating for them and the public. Unless more police’are on the streets people will take matters into their own hands. These scumbag burglars will come a cropper if they disturb the wrong person.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:22 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:37 am
We have plenty of police. What is needed is prioritisation and leadership. It's not something the average copper can change, it needs to come from the top.

Too many of those who rise to the top of the profession have different priorities. The battles the Home Secretary faces on a regular basis are there for all to see.

The main shift in focus for the police should be to revert to being a "force" rather than a "service". It needs to be a force dedicated solely to the prevention, detection and investigation of crime rather than a "service" for "the community".

Agree with the majority of this. There are however more staff working in your local McDonalds than Police parading on duty in Burnley, and if you knew how many Police Officers cover response in Rossendale you'd be truly horrified.
Yet those at the top insist that it is a good use of fit, competent and experienced officers to have them sitting at HQ answering phones and trying to deal with victims over the phone than having them out on the streets actually attending incidents.
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Lip » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:47 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:42 am
I never read that part. Too early in the morning. My bad
Are you American ?

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:30 pm

Lip wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:47 pm
Are you American ?
and if he is ?

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Post by Lip » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:38 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:30 pm
and if he is ?
No problem at all,just wondered as he is using that horrible saying "my bad " instead of my fault. 😁
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Claret86 » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:19 pm

Lip wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:38 pm
No problem at all,just wondered as he is using that horrible saying "my bad " instead of my fault. 😁
I also dislike this, along with 'taking bloods.'
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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:58 pm

Seen plenty of mobile police speed cameras driving around over the last few days in the same area. There’s plenty of budget for that but you won’t see one for dust on their feet looking for criminals

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:00 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:58 pm
Seen plenty of mobile police speed cameras driving around over the last few days in the same area. There’s plenty of budget for that but you won’t see one for dust on their feet looking for criminals
Boring and incorrect argument.
These are not staffed by Police Officers

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:05 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:00 pm
Boring and incorrect argument.
These are not staffed by Police Officers
Well they were attached to police cars ( and I mean cars with ‘police’ on them) so who is driving police cars if they are not police and not funded by the police ? Boring ? Strange comment . Think you might be incorrect

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:13 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:05 pm
Well they were attached to police cars ( and I mean cars with ‘police’ on them) so who is driving police cars if they are not police and not funded by the police ? Boring ? Strange comment . Think you might be incorrect
I think he was referring to the many "Traffic Enforcement" vehicles that are not manned by police officers per se ... you can both be right you know 😉

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:18 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:13 pm
I think he was referring to the many "Traffic Enforcement" vehicles that are not manned by police officers per se ... you can both be right you know 😉
He may have been referring to that. I wasn’t so my post wasn’t read properly.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:27 pm

My money is on it being the Jippos.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:55 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:05 pm
Well they were attached to police cars ( and I mean cars with ‘police’ on them) so who is driving police cars if they are not police and not funded by the police ? Boring ? Strange comment . Think you might be incorrect
I'm not incorrect. They are Police staff, essentially civilians whose job is to operate and maintain speed cameras.

The boring part is that this is always the accusation levelled at Police whenever somebody gets a ticket for speeding, saying that they should be put catching rapists and murderers.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:05 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:55 pm
I'm not incorrect. They are Police staff, essentially civilians whose job is to operate and maintain speed cameras.

The boring part is that this is always the accusation levelled at Police whenever somebody gets a ticket for speeding, saying that they should be put catching rapists and murderers.
So people who are not drive police cars ? Ultimately it is funded from the same source ( and probably the same budget) the taxpayer who wants protecting from criminals

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:12 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:55 pm
I'm not incorrect. They are Police staff, essentially civilians whose job is to operate and maintain speed cameras.

The boring part is that this is always the accusation levelled at Police whenever somebody gets a ticket for speeding, saying that they should be put catching rapists and murderers.
Perhaps you can also explain why they were wearing police uniforms if they are not police ?

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:17 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:12 pm
Perhaps you can also explain why they were wearing police uniforms if they are not police ?
There will be a subtle difference. Police officers in Lancashire so not operate Mobile speed cameras.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:52 pm

All the police are bothered about is the minimum amount of work & generating as much money as possible, if as much effort went into trapping motorists going a few miles over the limit where no danger is apparent into properly chasing criminals everything would be sewn up & dandy, 1 course of action is easy & pays dividends the other is a fruitless slog with no reward for the end effort.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by taio » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:02 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:52 pm
All the police are bothered about is the minimum amount of work & generating as much money as possible, if as much effort went into trapping motorists going a few miles over the limit where no danger is apparent into properly chasing criminals everything would be sewn up & dandy, 1 course of action is easy & pays dividends the other is a fruitless slog with no reward for the end effort.
I don't think the local constabulary receives the revenue from speeding fines. I thought it went to the Treasury.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Clovius Boofus » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:04 pm

You can avoid all that by not breaking the speed limit. If you find it impossible to do, then maybe driving is not for you.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:05 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:02 pm
I don't think the local constabulary receives the revenue from speeding fines. I thought it went to the Treasury.
On a referral commission it's been discussed at length before.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:07 pm

Clovius Boofus wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:04 pm
You can avoid all that by not breaking the speed limit. If you find it impossible to do, then maybe driving is not for you.
Not a problem there but equally underwhelmed with same amount of vigour which goes into pursuing other types of crime.

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Re: Burglaries Beware

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:08 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:27 pm
My money is on it being the Jippos.
I shouldn't find this funny :D but I did.
Probably right too.
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