Today's Football

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:09 pm

A nice amicable clash just underway in South London between Millwall and Leeds.
Good start by the Lions.

Then later in the PL, Bournemouth v Chelsea at two o'clock.
Followed by Everton v Arsenal at 4.30.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:11 pm

Hoping for a fiery milwall game
On and off the pitch

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:17 pm

0-1 Leeds

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:30 pm

Hopefully Dyche & Everton take a severe beating later this afternoon.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:41 pm

Looks like Leeds have this in the bag.
0-2

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:44 pm

I think we're getting close to the point where we start considering whether it's better for Everton to get spanked so it destroys their morale even more, at the risk of the spanking advancing Dyche's sacking and giving them a new manager bounce which might get them two or three wins in a short period of time, or whether it's better for them to look okay but lose 2-1, but they keep Dyche because the performances aren't completely terrible, any they carry on drudging towards relegation.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:53 pm

DA will be on soon repledging his allegiance to the Mighty Leeds

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:00 pm

Leeds up 3-0 with just a few minutes left- emphatic away win for them.
Hopefully similar emphatic away wins for Chelsea and Arsenal in the EPL later so that we can climb above Cherries and Toffees with a win tomorrow.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:03 pm

Leeds excellent today

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:48 pm

How did fleming play?

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:48 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:03 pm
Leeds excellent today

Champions League excellence?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:51 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:03 pm
Leeds excellent today

Very early days and perhaps another year in the Championship is what he needs, but Ampadu looks to me the sort of long term replacement for Cork we may not have signed this summer.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:55 pm

claretspice wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:51 pm
Very early days and perhaps another year in the Championship is what he needs, but Ampadu looks to me the sort of long term replacement for Cork we may not have signed this summer.

I suggested this in the summer and some on here were fairly negative about it. I think he has a bit of everything and would provide us with something we lack, and a replacement for Cork like you say. Leeds got him for a good price too I think.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:03 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:03 pm
Leeds excellent today

The Millwall defending was comical

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:22 pm

1 hour in
Chelsea struggling to score

Put Maatsen on !

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:27 pm

Chelsea look very ordinary.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:31 pm

Chelsea got quite a few injuries but yeah they do look ordinary.

No doubt all their injured players will be back in time for when we play them in a few weeks!

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:32 pm

Lots if skillful players knocking it around in the modern style ... no end product yet.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:32 pm

I think what sums them up is spending almost £1bn and Connor Gallagher is the captain.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:33 pm

Maatsen on

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:33 pm

They’ve been so sloppy. Lazy inaccurate passing, wild shots, no composure. I fancy Bournemouth to nick one.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:36 pm

Gallagher is impressive in all the basics of the game but to be regular international needs more quality.

3 goals for Chelsea I think I heard.
Not enough.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:37 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:33 pm
They’ve been so sloppy. Lazy inaccurate passing, wild shots, no composure. I fancy Bournemouth to nick one.

Plenty of talent on chelsea, but their lack of a striker is hurting them. Jackson does not look ready for prime time. They only scored 38 goals last year and I don't see them scoring much more than that.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:40 pm

Maatsen in No 10 role

I think

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:42 pm

Jackson misses another chance.
I like the look of him but CF's have to take more chances than he has so far for Chelsea

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:56 pm

0 - 0

Everton v Arsenal should be more interesting.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:41 pm

McNeil does his party piece of turning in a tight circle only to lose the ball in a bad position.

I miss Dwight

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:49 pm

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:50 pm

Offside?

Maybe not.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:51 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:50 pm
Offside?

Maybe not.

Well spotted

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Everton sleeping

Youbg exposed by Martinelli's speed
Not his fault

OFFSIDE !

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Ruled out.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:52 pm

How the **** is that offside

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:53 pm

ok, can someone tell me how that's offside when the ball is played by an Everton player ?

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:53 pm

How’s that offside? What a poor angle to make a decision on.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:54 pm

Everton happy to see Martinelli limp off.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:55 pm

I presume Nketiah was offside when the Arsenal player played the pass into the Everton player wasn’t he?!

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:53 pm
ok, can someone tell me how that's offside when the ball is played by an Everton player ?

He was judged offside when the arsenal
Player played it onto Everton player.

ThaiClaret · Post by **ThaiClaret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pm

Dwight hardly touched the ball.

Got to feel sorry for the lad

He seldom gets the chance to showcase his skills.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pm

I bet they find a better angle by Monday morning to show it was actually onside. Too late to affect the decision of course.

More grist to the Everton/Prem conspiracy theorists.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:55 pm
I presume Nketiah was offside when the Arsenal player played the pass into the Everton player wasn’t he?!

Gabriel played the ball sideways, it was then intercepted by an Everton player who deliberately tried to intercept it, there's no lack of intention there. There will no doubt be something that enabled them to rule it out but I'm not sure what it is

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pm
Gabriel played the ball sideways, it was then intercepted by an Everton player who deliberately tried to intercept it, there's no lack of intention there. There will no doubt be something that enabled them to rule it out but I'm not sure what it is

Doesn’t matter which direction it was passed in.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:57 pm
Gabriel played the ball sideways, it was then intercepted by an Everton player who deliberately tried to intercept it, there's no lack of intention there. There will no doubt be something that enabled them to rule it out but I'm not sure what it is

Don’t think it matters which way he played it.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:59 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:55 pm
He was judged offside when the arsenal
Player played it onto Everton player.

like I said further down, the Everton lad is chasing the ball trying to intercept it - I have no idea how they can then call it a lack of intention after he plays it, also from the angle on the halfway line (albeit on only one viewing) it looks to me like Gabriel plays it sideways rather than forwards.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:00 pm

Theyl nick a 1 nil on the back of that VAR

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:01 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:59 pm
like I said further down, the Everton lad is chasing the ball trying to intercept it - I have no idea how they can then call it a lack of intention after he plays it, also from the angle on the halfway line (albeit on only one viewing) it looks to me like Gabriel plays it sideways rather than forwards.

Sideways is irrelevant

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:02 pm

Need to see it again but I guess it will be clarified that Martinelli was offside

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:03 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:01 pm
Sideways is irrelevant

intention isn't though, so either way imho they got it badly wrong. You can't chase the ball with the intent of getting it back and then say it lacks intent when you play the ball, it's daft.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:04 pm

My understanding is that if a pass is played but then unintentionally deflected towards a player in an offside position then it is offside. That appeared to be what happened but would like to see again at half time.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:03 pm
intention isn't though, so either way imho they got it badly wrong. You can't chase the ball with the intent of getting it back and then say it lacks intent when you play the ball, it's daft.

Intent isn’t in the laws.