Burnley v Luton

[willsclarets]

https://twitter.com/PxckedIze/status/17 ... pYE3A&s=19

There is no way on earth this is not a foul

[bumba]

Totally agree, and yes Luton probably had the better of the game but what did they actually create? We made the best chances. So much rot on this forum

No rot. We are poor very very poor

[Claretlad]

VAR Stinks

[AGENT_CLARET]

I think if Trafford didn't throw his arms in the air like he did the foul would of been given, he made a meal of the contact

[MG70]

That should have been disallowed, the replay they played from behind shows exactly what the forward was doing.
But Al Dakill was weak again against Morris, he should have at least challenged him but he was shrugged off as if he wasn’t there.

[PWBFC]

One of the worst decisions I've ever seen considering VAR got several looks at it. Nobody at all complains if you rule that out.

[boatshed bill]

Tbf boatshed even if he wasn’t blocked off he was getting knowhere near that one. Look at the point of contact and where the ball ends up.

I honestly think that’s why the ref gave it. Can’t think of any other reason

That may be the ref's interpretation; but he's not there to judge scenarios, he has to give the obstruction because it happened.

[Rick_Muller]

As per the Spurs game where I had a positive word for the ref, I’ll comment again today.

I think he was corrupt. Gave nothing to us all game and gave everything to them. Corrupt, seriously corrupt.

[aggi]

Luton never had a sniff yet trafford had a good game? Can’t be both surely?

I don’t think Luton had quality chances but let’s be honest they were worth their point. We were awful and buckled under their constant pressure.

Why not? Part of the reason they didn't have a sniff was Trafford probably having his best game at decisively claiming balls into the box .

[RVclaret]

I think if Trafford didn't throw his arms in the air like he did the foul would of been given, he made a meal of the contact

Ha, did you see Duran the other week at Villa park?

[warksclaret]

The result was sickening, but we can't focus on purely a VAR decision that did not go our way.Most of us are bias and feel aggrieved but the neutrals will claim it could have gone either way. For me Trafford who had a good game was bullied out of it. I thought we defended very well, though Dakhill looked exposed against a very good wide player.He is clearly not a full back. Amdouini despite his goal was very disappointing, he must think he is Messi trying the impossible all the time. And I realised tonight if you are in a fight you don't play Tresor-he was gutless, and seems petrified. Foster was magnificent and JBG missed a sitter. We were outplayed for the first 30 minutes and for me a point is all we could ask for. We had the chance to go 2-0 up but as we have done all season, our decisions in the final third were shocking

[4:20]

Trafford is making a run at a parry, any attacking player has no reason to get out of your way and put you off. I don't see an issue with that. There's a touch but really, he wasn't flattened or poleaxed.

What annoys me is yet again, we wasted 3/4 guilt edge opportunitties to kill a game and we didn't. Then we pay for another last minute point robber.

File under West Ham, Palace, etc

Couldn't give a sh1t about how the rest of the game went, how many chances, how much pressure, possession, what hand VK grabbed his dick at half time to **** with....The attacker backed into Trafford, obstructed him, knocked him over, fouled him.

[CoolClaret]

God some of our fans have turned into some proper soft arses now with our powderpuff squad! Mirroring them!

We routinely scored from crosses like that under Dyche and would've laughed at other fans for complaining over something like that.

Weak as **** from Ekdal as well.

[aggi]

I think if Trafford didn't throw his arms in the air like he did the foul would of been given, he made a meal of the contact

It's a fair point. We saw at villa last week what happens when you make a meal of minimal contact.

[criminalclaret]

You should watch it again. It’s a clear as day foul. Adebayo literally blocks him by twisting his body and has no eyes on the ball. Luton couldn’t believe their luck that it was given.

If that happens 10 times a weekend, it would be 50/50 every time. To me it's the same today. If Trafford area it so crowded and hangs back abit, it's an easy save on the line for him. I'm not evicerarating the guy, he did overall have a great game all in all (bar that).

We really, really should have been well clear of a 1 goal lead by the 90th + minute though given out chances we missed. Luton were never gonna give up

[Buxtonclaret]

Not for the first time either. Berge and the handball that wasn't at forest. Joke

Your right.
But that tonight was so clearly a foul, even without VAR.

Trafford still has mistakes in him. He is still ' Light Weight ' with high balls. ( I personally think that's why he fell awkwardly earlier )
He's improving though.
But that tonight was a blatant, orchestrated foul.
And VAR, as it's used now, isn't fit for purpose.

[cockneyclaret]

https://twitter.com/PxckedIze/status/17 ... pYE3A&s=19

There is no way on earth this is not a foul

A well worked move and it paid off!! Defenders ball watching and the 2 biggest players on the pitch take the keeper down and the other scores.. 99% of the time that's disallowed

[Kilson810]

Imagine thinking it is a good idea to bring Tresor on when you are clinging on to a 1-0 lead. Biggest bottle job in a tackle to ever play for Burnley.

[BurnleyFC]

In all honesty, we were pretty crap and didn’t deserve to win.

[dansch]

No rot. We are poor very very poor

We're in a relegation battle, confidence isn't particularly high. They had next to no clear chances. You need the rub sometimes and we were robbed by bad officiating again

[Ampth7]

Totally agree, and yes Luton probably had the better of the game but what did they actually create? We made the best chances. So much rot on this forum

No mate, we were gash again tonight and completely dominated by a route 1 side. Over 60% possession for a pretty woeful team like Luton at home is really poor IMO.

We have to start planning for next season now, because this season has been an absolute disaster.

[boatshed bill]

I think if Trafford didn't throw his arms in the air like he did the foul would of been given, he made a meal of the contact

But when the opposition roll over about 5 times (Villa winner) making a meal of it gets them a penalty.

[RVclaret]

If that happens 10 times a weekend, it would be 50/50 every time. To me it's the same today. If Trafford area it so crowded and hangs back abit, it's an easy save on the line for him. I'm not evicerarating the guy, he did overall have a great game all in all (bar that).

We really, really should have been well clear of a 1 goal lead by the 90th + minute though given out chances we missed. Luton were never gonna give up

Nonsense, it gets given 9 times out of 10. Keepers get protection in games, sometimes too much, but that’s literally a clear block of his movement. Its completely irrelevant that Trafford could or should have stayed on his line when he’s fouled. Luton created absolutely nothing all game we were robbed.

[criminalclaret]

Couldn't give a sh1t about how the rest of the game went, how many chances, how much pressure, possession, what hand VK grabbed his dick at half time to **** with....The attacker backed into Trafford, obstructed him, knocked him over, fouled him.

You don't give a s**t that we missed clear opportunities to put the game to bed way before the 90th minute? Nothing is every done with a 1 nil lead.

I'm content to say that decision sometimes goes for you or doesnt (and we had plenty that did in previous time).

That doesn't plaster over the cracks that the game should have been well put to bed a lot, lot earlier by ourselves.

[distortiondave]

Carlton Morris says;

On his goal standing: "To be honest I have seen a couple where goalkeepers get protection and I am pleased they [VAR] have seen sense as the big man just out jumped him."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/footba ... %20him.%22

Out jumped him, has he? Are you sure Carlton? Are you sure your player has out jumped our goalkeeper?

[Newcastleclaret93]

That may be the ref's interpretation; but he's not there to judge scenarios, he has to give the obstruction because it happened.

From my understanding that’s exactly why VAR couldn’t reverse the decision.

The law isn’t the keeper has been obstructed, it’s has the player been fouled.

I honestly think the ref thinks Trafford dived (went down to easy under light physical contact). I think that’s why VAR couldn’t intervene and change the on field decision.



I don’t agree with it, as earlier in the game Trafford was given a free kick for a very similar scenario (as was kaminski). It just stinks of poor referees making stupid decisions under pressure. But looking at it from the refs POV that’s what I assume has happened.

[dansch]

No mate, we were gash again tonight and completely dominated by a route 1 side. Over 60% possession for a pretty woeful team like Luton at home is really poor IMO.

We have to start planning for next season now, because this season has been an absolute disaster.

What did Luton actually create? You telling me it's not a foul on Trafford?

[bumba]

We're in a relegation battle, confidence isn't particularly high. They had next to no clear chances. You need the rub sometimes and we were robbed by bad officiating again

Were a 'possession' based team dominated at home by one of the worst teams in the league.
Open your eyes mate. Tonight was a disgrace
Rightly given as a goal by the way

[Shaggy]

Why not? Part of the reason they didn't have a sniff was Trafford probably having his best game at decisively claiming balls into the box .

He missed as many as he claimed. Made 2 Hollywood saves one which he could easily have caught and kept passing it to their midfield.

I don’t think he had a bad game but certainly wasn’t good either.

As much as some people have an agenda against him there is also an agenda to exaggerate what he does.

Anyway he’ll be playing championship football next season along with the rest of our limp wristed squad.

[JR1882]

Were a 'possession' based team dominated at home by one of the worst teams in the league.
Open your eyes mate. Tonight was a disgrace
Rightly given as a goal by the way

Yep 39% possession at home to a relegation rival when our side was assembled at great cost on the basis of keeping the ball.

[KRBFC]

Luton never had a sniff yet trafford had a good game? Can’t be both surely?

I don’t think Luton had quality chances but let’s be honest they were worth their point. We were awful and buckled under their constant pressure.

Trafford was fine, caught some corners and crosses. Luton didn’t create anything though, despite all of their possession. We had considerably more clear openings.

[KRBFC]

Were a 'possession' based team dominated at home by one of the worst teams in the league.
Open your eyes mate. Tonight was a disgrace
Rightly given as a goal by the way

Who’s we?

[RVclaret]

From my understanding that’s exactly why VAR couldn’t reverse the decision.

The law isn’t the keeper has been obstructed, it’s has the player been fouled.

I honestly think the ref thinks Trafford dived (went down to easy under light physical contact). I think that’s why VAR couldn’t intervene and change the on field decision.



I don’t agree with it, as earlier in the game Trafford was given a free kick for a very similar scenario (as was kaminski). It just stinks of poor referees making stupid decisions under pressure. But looking at it from the refs POV that’s what I assume has happened.

[4:20]

You don't give a s**t that we missed clear opportunities to put the game to bed way before the 90th minute? Nothing is every done with a 1 nil lead.

I'm content to say that decision sometimes goes for you or doesnt (and we had plenty that did in previous time).

That doesn't plaster over the cracks that the game should have been well put to bed a lot, lot earlier by ourselves.

I don't care for any of that what you have just wrote. It's irrelevant.

What I care about is the foul that wasn't given. Nothing else.

[dansch]

Were a 'possession' based team dominated at home by one of the worst teams in the league.
Open your eyes mate. Tonight was a disgrace
Rightly given as a goal by the way

We were a possession based team. Luton have been better than us this season, they played better than we did tonight but at the end of the day they didn't actually create any real chances, we created more and it was a definite foul on the keeper

[Swizzlestick]

I thought we were so poor tonight. Luton dominating the ball. I just don’t understand what we’re trying to do now. We are so passive, it’s actually ridiculous.

[warksclaret]

I hope Fofana signed before watching that

[distortiondave]

I'm calling it a do because I have work tomorrow and another hour of this will lead me down a glory hole of insanity, but the officials, by their own metric, are wrong to allow that goal. We should have won, and more to the point, we should have been allowed to win.

[boatshed bill]

From my understanding that’s exactly why VAR couldn’t reverse the decision.

The law isn’t the keeper has been obstructed, it’s has the player been fouled.

I honestly think the ref thinks Trafford dived (went down to easy under light physical contact). I think that’s why VAR couldn’t intervene and change the on field decision.



I don’t agree with it, as earlier in the game Trafford was given a free kick for a very similar scenario (as was kaminski). It just stinks of poor referees making stupid decisions under pressure. But looking at it from the refs POV that’s what I assume has happened.

Yes, the keeper was fouled.
Fair do to Luton, that tactic just got them a point. I call it cheating, you can call it whatever you want.
If we had produced a goalscoring opportunity in that manner I would have expected it to be ruled out.

[KlyBfc]

We are awful. We have wasted money, wasted an opportunity to build and wasted a good vibe.

We can blame the ref (I think it’s a foul) but that performance, those subs, the tactics and the recruitment etc etc is nothing short of horrific.

[criminalclaret]

I don't care for any of that what you have just wrote. It's irrelevant.

What I care about is the foul that wasn't given. Nothing else.

See what you wanna see bud.

We didn't lose the game on one independent, we lost it through not taking out chances

[Newcastleclaret93]

Yes, the keeper was fouled.
Fair do to Luton, that tactic just got them a point. I call it cheating, you can call it whatever you want.
If we had produced a goalscoring opportunity in that manner I would have expected it to be ruled out.

Haha cheating? Come on, so you think Luton paid of a ref or something

[jojomk1]

We are awful. We have wasted money, wasted an opportunity to build and wasted a good vibe.

We can blame the ref (I think it’s a foul) but that performance, those subs, the tactics and the recruitment etc etc is nothing short of horrific.

Sums VK up perfectly

[boatshed bill]

Haha cheating? Come on, so you think Luton paid of a ref or something

Any foul is cheating.

[Kilson810]

We are awful. We have wasted money, wasted an opportunity to build and wasted a good vibe.

We can blame the ref (I think it’s a foul) but that performance, those subs, the tactics and the recruitment etc etc is nothing short of horrific.

Correct, we've gone from one of the best seasons in memory to one of the worst. A team full of lightweights, they are embarrassing.

At least we don't have to listen to the usual 'we are getting better' nonsense that is usually posted.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Any foul is cheating.

Well if that’s the case you can say both sides cheated all game?

[boatshed bill]

Well if that’s the case you can say both sides cheated all game?

Yes, unfortunately the modern game is full of it.
The trouble is that we seem to be on the receiving end a bit too often.
What did you think about the Villa penalty? Or the so-called Berge handball?

[bumba]

We were a possession based team. Luton have been better than us this season, they played better than we did tonight but at the end of the day they didn't actually create any real chances, we created more and it was a definite foul on the keeper

Mate it was never a foul in a million Sundays, he cocked up.... school boys in a man's game do.
If Luton have been better than us after what we have spent then WHY?

[bumba]

Who’s we?

Best you can do to support your man?

[AGENT_CLARET]

Ha, did you see Duran the other week at Villa park?

Yes I did, it was a different foul in a different game with a different Ref. So your point is ?????