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The earth

Post by fanzone » Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:38 pm

How flat is it?

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Re: The earth

Post by Bosscat » Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:44 pm

fanzone wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:38 pm
How flat is it?
Very ...probably due the amount of "Iron" in the Earths crust, and as every one knows you "Iron" stuff to make it flat

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Re: The earth

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:59 pm

For some strange reason, I’d love for the earth to actually be flat, and to find out that Antarctic is actually a giant ice wall.

Alas, the world is genuinely round.

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Re: The earth

Post by bfcmik » Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:09 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:59 pm
Alas, the world is genuinely round.
Alas, it is actually an oblate spheroid. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblate_spheroid

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Re: The earth

Post by IanMcL » Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:21 pm

I think the Earth is flat at every point, all the way round its circumference. All those flat bits combined make it spherical.

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Re: The earth

Post by what_no_pies » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:19 am

It's really bumpy too.

We can all agree it's certainly not a smooth sphere.

The various imperfections, wobble from our axis and gravitational pull of other planets causing inconsistencies in how we orbit the sun causes a whole manner of cool stuff - it even influences how we've evolved.

I'm fascinated in the fact some poeple are buying into a flat earth theory. Surely most of them are just having a bit of a laigh with it, right?

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Re: The earth

Post by Carlos the Great » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:32 am

Conspiracy theorists will never believe it’s not flat no matter how much the evidence there is … I’m amazed how many of this strange breed still think landing in the moon was a hoax instead preferring :Blaze channels proof and claiming Rothschild is behind it al they used to mar me angry with ther beliefs on Covid .. Brexit .. Princess Diana .. Elvis and that the moon isn’t made infact made of cheese ..I tend to avoid these people now at all costs

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Re: The earth

Post by Anthonini » Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:56 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:32 am
Conspiracy theorists will never believe it’s not flat no matter how much the evidence there is … I’m amazed how many of this strange breed still think landing in the moon was a hoax instead preferring :Blaze channels proof and claiming Rothschild is behind it al they used to mar me angry with ther beliefs on Covid .. Brexit .. Princess Diana .. Elvis and that the moon isn’t made infact made of cheese ..I tend to avoid these people now at all costs

Not saying it's flat or any other shape. But what evidence do you have that it's a spinning ball other than cartoons and because "he said so"?

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Re: The earth

Post by Fretters » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:01 am

I love conspiracy theorists, they absolutely fascinate me. We live in a world where governments can't even keep a Christmas party under wraps, yet they believe governments/NASA etc. have successfully faked moon landings and round planets without one single person, out of the thousands that would have to be involved, coming forward with evidence to the contrary in all these years.

Absolute nutters.

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Re: The earth

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:09 am

The worst one I've met was a bloke who claimed that Mrs Brown's Boys was great comedy.
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Re: The earth

Post by Jel » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:26 am

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https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1765569 ... globe-pub/

Someone mentioned Irons earlier, the Irony of this :D

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Re: The earth

Post by Foshiznik » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:27 am

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:56 am
Not saying it's flat or any other shape. But what evidence do you have that it's a spinning ball other than cartoons and because "he said so"?
Seeing pictures and other media from organisations such as NASA, ESA, UKSA, ROSCOSMOS (SSC), ISA, CSA, CNSA, JAXA. The writings and/or mathematical theorem of Pythagoras, Newton, Eratosphenes, etc. the fact that Satellites exist, orbit and don't just sit still, the fact that we have very defined seasons and meteorological phenomenons, that GPS exists, that you can see the curvature of the earth when on a long haul flight, that you can see it on live streams from ISS and satellites, high atmospheric balloon jumps and the lack of evidence that backs any opposing view.

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Re: The earth

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:30 am

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Re: The earth

Post by Anthonini » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:57 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:27 am
Seeing pictures and other media from organisations such as NASA, ESA, UKSA, ROSCOSMOS (SSC), ISA, CSA, CNSA, JAXA. The writings and/or mathematical theorem of Pythagoras, Newton, Eratosphenes, etc. the fact that Satellites exist, orbit and don't just sit still, the fact that we have very defined seasons and meteorological phenomenons, that GPS exists, that you can see the curvature of the earth when on a long haul flight, that you can see it on live streams from ISS and satellites, high atmospheric balloon jumps and the lack of evidence that backs any opposing view.
Show me one real picture.

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Re: The earth

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:02 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:57 am
Show me one real picture.
How about your own eyes when you’re on a plane?

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Re: The earth

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:15 pm

Or even looking out to see and seeing objects disappear over the horizon.

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Re: The earth

Post by Belial » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:26 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:32 am
Conspiracy theorists will never believe it’s not flat no matter how much the evidence there is … I’m amazed how many of this strange breed still think landing in the moon was a hoax instead preferring :Blaze channels proof and claiming Rothschild is behind it al they used to mar me angry with ther beliefs on Covid .. Brexit .. Princess Diana .. Elvis and that the moon isn’t made infact made of cheese ..I tend to avoid these people now at all costs
There's a relatively new breed of these mind you... they've evolved from times around many of those you've referred to, to pretty much anything to have an alternative opinion (and it is an opinion) about. All generally led by a social media chief (usually a Z list celeb, or PT with a Merc A180)

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Re: The earth

Post by Foshiznik » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:30 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:57 am
Show me one real picture.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Real+pic ... e+of+earth

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Re: The earth

Post by Foshiznik » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:31 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:57 am
Show me one real picture.
So other than pictures, you don't believe the other points i raised as proof, such as the mathematics and science behind the shape of the earth?

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Re: The earth

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:43 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:56 am
Not saying it's flat or any other shape. But what evidence do you have that it's a spinning ball other than cartoons and because "he said so"?
:lol:

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Re: The earth

Post by CaptJohn » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:44 pm

Being someone who has navigated around the world on several occasions I can confirm that the quickest way from A to B is via a great circle track. If the earth was flat it would be a straight line. Sorry, it's roundish.
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Re: The earth

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:53 pm

The thing with stuff like this - you can't work out whether you're dealing with a troll or a stupid.

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Re: The earth

Post by Cardclaret » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:03 pm

I suspect concepts such as flat and round are actually more complex than we think.

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Re: The earth

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:08 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:56 am
Not saying it's flat or any other shape. But what evidence do you have that it's a spinning ball other than cartoons and because "he said so"?
If you don't think it is flat or any other shape, would you be kind enough to tell us what you think it actually is ?

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Re: The earth

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:17 pm

It's really quite easy to disprove the 'flat earth' theory:
If the earth was 'flat' it would have to have an 'end' and if that were the case, the (arse) end of the world would unquestionably be Tow Law in Co. Durham. But you can drive into Tow Law and out the other sides of it, ergo, the earth is not flat.

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Re: The earth

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:20 pm

Talking about conspiracy theories, this is quite good.

https://twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/sta ... g2EgA&s=19

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Re: The earth

Post by dougcollins » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:20 pm

I pretended to be a 'Flat Earthist' at school just to p!ss people off.

Surely that's what these are doing, no-one actually believes it?

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Re: The earth

Post by gtclaret » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:28 pm

I don't know if anyone has been to Florida.You then have proof that the world is fat

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Re: The earth

Post by Anthonini » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:08 pm
If you don't think it is flat or any other shape, would you be kind enough to tell us what you think it actually is ?
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.

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Re: The earth

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:57 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
There is no photograph of earth? :lol:
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Re: The earth

Post by claret3561 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:05 pm

It's over 40 years since we allegedly put astronauts on the moon and yet we haven't been able to successfully do it since, that's got to tell you something.
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Re: The earth

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:25 pm

I have literally no idea whether the earth is flat or round. My belief that it is round. I suspect this post is more of a phishing post derived from the JB thread. I do find it all interesting however whether it’s round flat or triangular it doesn’t effect me in any way so it’s just an interesting subject like a lot of so called conspiracy theories.

JFK assassination cover up
Moon landing didn’t happen
Mind control program by the USA (turned out to be true)
UFO cover ups.


They make for interesting discussions, which should always be encouraged.
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Re: The earth

Post by Fretters » Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:37 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
Who's told you that there are no photographs of earth? And what evidence did they supply to prove the ones we do have are CGI?

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Re: The earth

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:40 pm

Fretters wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:37 pm
Who's told you that there are no photographs of earth? And what evidence did they supply to prove the ones we do have are CGI?
You might as well argue with a lamp-post.
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Re: The earth

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:50 pm

74 different space programs exist throughout the countries of Earth.

Even those who oppose each other politically, or culturally or have reason to go to war with each other, they all agree the Earth is round.

74 space agencies, employing thousands of people. If it was true that the Earth was flat, someone who worked there would provide actual evidence. They wouldn't be able to all keep it a secret.

Also, there's literally no benefit to lying about how the Earth is, it defies logic.

We've been to the moon numerous times, we've not been back because there's no reason to. India have been though. Recently.

Also, there's a photograph of Earth from about 1954 which shows it as round. The negatives and prints of these pics were sold at auction a couple of years ago. 70 year old negatives.

The Earth was shown from Space on TV in 1960, showing it as a round Earth.

It's round. There's no evidence to the contrary.

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Re: The earth

Post by Nonayforever » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:58 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
And you think Tresor is world class ?

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Re: The earth

Post by Carlos the Great » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:14 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
Are you being serious ? Or is this just banter ?

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Re: The earth

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:37 pm

“The idea that the Earth is a sphere was all but settled by ancient Greek philosophers such as Aristotle (384–322 BC), who obtained empirical evidence after travelling to Egypt and seeing new constellations of stars. Eratosthenes, in the third century BC, became the first person to calculate the circumference of the Earth. Islamic scholars made further advanced measurements from about the 9th century AD onwards, while European navigators circled the Earth in the 16th century. Images from space were final proof, if any were needed.”
No matter how many pieces of evidence you can produce, you will still see nutters who think the earth is flat. More chance of putting a usb into the socket the right way round first time every time than convincing them that they are clearly confused.

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Re: The earth

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:45 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:37 pm
“The idea that the Earth is a sphere was all but settled by ancient Greek philosophers such as Aristotle (384–322 BC), who obtained empirical evidence after travelling to Egypt and seeing new constellations of stars. Eratosthenes, in the third century BC, became the first person to calculate the circumference of the Earth. Islamic scholars made further advanced measurements from about the 9th century AD onwards, while European navigators circled the Earth in the 16th century. Images from space were final proof, if any were needed.”
No matter how many pieces of evidence you can produce, you will still see nutters who think the earth is flat. More chance of putting a usb into the socket the right way round first time every time than convincing them that they are clearly confused.
They probably read Terry Pratchett and think we live on a flat disc travelling on Elephants on the back of a Giant Turtle
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Re: The earth

Post by Clovius Boofus » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:03 am

Every person I've met who is into Flat Earth, and loads of other bonkers stuff, has been rather needy, and this includes a relative of ours who is one of the most 'high maintenance' people I've ever met. She's basically into all this shite because she is a rather dull person who requires a lot of attention.

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Re: The earth

Post by claptrappers_union » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:53 am

Anthonini is somewhat correct. The pictures of the ‘blue marble’ are not basic photographs… but they are not CGI either. But it's a composite of photos stitched together to form a complete picture.

However, even with that, I don't understand the conspiracy theories. Even if scientists proved it was flat, Flat Earthers would counter that it's round because we are still being lied to.

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Re: The earth

Post by HahaYeah » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:45 am

I think the flat Earth thing is mischievious, false and made to discredit all conspiracy theories.

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Re: The earth

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:29 am

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
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Re: The earth

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:34 am

Anthonini wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:43 pm
Just as any of you I haven't seen it and therefore I'm not going to just guess what it is. As I'm not sure of any shape.

They show us perfectly round spherical computer generated images. They even admit they aren't real. Now they are saying it's a pear shaped oblate spheroid. Sure.

I've also seen computer generated flat earth images with the north pole in the middle just as the UN flag.

I don't believe any of the lies they are trying to tell us anymore. I used to be fascinated with outer space as a child and I learned all about it... Only to realise later that they are all just cgi. There is no photograph of earth. None.

Look at footage of the moon landings filmed by Stanley Kubrick... It's a joke.

I stopped bothering to try and find out the real truth. All I know is we're being lied to continually.
It scares me that there are people like you amongst us, I hope you’re not in any position of authority
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Re: The earth

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:38 am

As for your UN flag point , you’re aware flags are flat ? How else are you going to display the entire Earth except with a flat map?

The polar projection is fairly good at not over distorting relative size as well.

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Re: The earth

Post by Bullabill » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:54 am

It's evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour,
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
The sun, which is the source of all our power.

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Re: The earth

Post by Volvoclaret » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:59 am

Bono of U2 believes the earth is flat because he regularly peers over the Edge
😉

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Re: The earth

Post by Anthonini » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:23 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:29 am
Your search history must be a wonderous joy

You do realise that's another cartoon in the picture you took the effort of searching right?

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Re: The earth

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:29 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:23 pm
You do realise that's another cartoon in the picture you took the effort of searching right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqmDazwb6Y

One can literally conduct repeatable, scientifically sound experiments with yourself and one other person to prove the Earth is round.

C'mon man.

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Re: The earth

Post by Anthonini » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:33 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqmDazwb6Y

One can literally conduct repeatable, scientifically sound experiments with yourself and one other person to prove the Earth is round.

C'mon man.
Like water is always flat? Or what amount of water does one need for it to start curving?

It's hard enough to talk about football with Burnley fans. Never mind this kind of stuff.

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