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Re: Next 10 games

Post by KRBFC » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:33 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:22 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Christ on a bike, we've won 3 out of 24 all season.
Three.

What on earth gives you the tiniest scrap of belief that we're suddenly going to do a complete 180 ° turn and start playing with Man City type excellence?

Id love to know.
I didn’t say we will do it? I believe we’re capable though, we’re not dead and buried just yet!

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by KRBFC » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:53 am
February 19th 2022 you referred to Chris Wood as and I quote “a big lazy sack of shite”

I hate it when fans that have attacked players for years suddenly get on there high horse
Chris Wood didn’t play for us in February 2022, he was gone already. There is nothing wrong with opinion as I said, if he wants to say Amdouni isn’t good enough or he’s lazy, go ahead but some of the relentless attacks on Trafford, Ramsey and Amdouni are personal grudges not objective opinion.

It doesn’t matter how well Ramsey plays, some will still slag him off, that is pretty fkn sad ain’t it? One of your own players can’t do right from wrong. Why? Because of his fee or the fact he slowly adjusted to the league/team?

Here’s one, I don’t think Brownhill is anywhere near good enough for this league, that doesn’t mean I’ll attack him game after game regardless of how well he plays.
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Re: Next 10 games

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:55 pm

I think KRBFC's position that you should never slag the club or the players off unless your username is KRBFC is actually very wise and clever.
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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:02 pm

In some ways I quite admire the lack of self awareness.
On a par with Liz Truss.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by KRBFC » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:20 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:55 pm
I think KRBFC's position that you should never slag the club or the players off unless your username is KRBFC is actually very wise and clever.
Not sure if you read my post or not but I didn’t say that at all, slag our players off if you want, give your opinion, I just said the witch-hunt scapegoating of our own players is quite sad really.

Some of them can simply do no right in the eyes of some, im surprised Trafford hasn’t been blamed for world hunger yet.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:22 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:11 am
I see 5 wins in there and 2 draws , not enough to stay up though .
Okay please tell me the game's we get five wins in

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:54 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:22 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Christ on a bike, we've won 3 out of 24 all season.
Three.

What on earth gives you the tiniest scrap of belief that we're suddenly going to do a complete 180 ° turn and start playing with Man City type excellence?

Id love to know.
Because this is football and stranger things have happened. Totally against everything that has happened this season up to now but looking at our run in gives me confidence we can actually do it.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:10 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:54 pm
Because this is football and stranger things have happened. Totally against everything that has happened this season up to now but looking at our run in gives me confidence we can actually do it.
I'd add to that, we have been better overall since the Arsenal game away when we finally realised that we can't play like we did in the Championship.

The Muric/Trafford debate aside, I think if we add Foster and Taylor to the squad on Saturday then we aren't too bad. Cut out the soft goals and we can be competitive to the end of the season.

Also after Saturday we don't have to play Arsenal, Liverpool, City or Villa again.

Too little too late? Probably, but I think we can get closer than we currently look like being.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:33 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:22 pm
Okay please tell me the game's we get five wins in
There are 5 home games that are very winnable if you ignore Arsenal and Newcastle, Brighton being the hardest left I guess. I can see a couple of draws and maybe a win away from home probably not enough but you never know.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:54 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:10 pm
I'd add to that, we have been better overall since the Arsenal game away when we finally realised that we can't play like we did in the Championship.

The Muric/Trafford debate aside, I think if we add Foster and Taylor to the squad on Saturday then we aren't too bad. Cut out the soft goals and we can be competitive to the end of the season.

Also after Saturday we don't have to play Arsenal, Liverpool, City or Villa again.

Too little too late? Probably, but I think we can get closer than we currently look like being.
I'd love to believe we could suddenly cut out the soft goals but surely that is wishful thinking.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:57 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:54 pm
I'd love to believe we could suddenly cut out the soft goals but surely that is wishful thinking.
I agree, unless we cut out the soft goals we are dreaming but I think overall we are a better outfit (especially with the three new guys) than we were in the early stages of the season.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:38 am

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:57 pm
I agree, unless we cut out the soft goals we are dreaming but I think overall we are a better outfit (especially with the three new guys) than we were in the early stages of the season.
I know it's highly unlikely but Assignon would be an unreal permanent signing

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:48 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:38 am
I know it's highly unlikely but Assignon would be an unreal permanent signing
I don’t disagree with Goody’s assessment, but you touch on the problem. How many of the better performers are we going to keep if we go down? We could end up with an endless cycle of rinse and repeat, new builds every season.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:58 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:48 am
I don’t disagree with Goody’s assessment, but you touch on the problem. How many of the better performers are we going to keep if we go down? We could end up with an endless cycle of rinse and repeat, new builds every season.
yep we can't do that, 2 or 3 is ok but anymore and it's just another **** show. I think the story was Assignon would only consider a perm move IF we stayed up. I don't give us a chance of staying up sadly

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:58 am
yep we can't do that, 2 or 3 is ok but anymore and it's just another **** show. I think the story was Assignon would only consider a perm move IF we stayed up. I don't give us a chance of staying up sadly
Still believing but it’s getting a bit like still believing in Santa after seeing your dad putting out the presents. Three points against Arsenal and I’ll be up for it again though. :?

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:04 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:38 am
I know it's highly unlikely but Assignon would be an unreal permanent signing
Speed and physicality are imperative at this level, it's something we have lacked all season.

I still have major concerns in the most important area of the pitch (central midfield), but we saw on Saturday how Esteve matched and then dispossessed Nunez (fastest recorded top speed in 2022 of 23.61mph ) in a foot race in the second half.

We have seen recent stats saying that O'Shea has the 5th fastest top speed this season.

Assignon looks to have extra height and speed compared to what has been seen at right back all season and it's obvious to see what Fofana has to offer.

We suddenly won't look like a team of under 16's in comparison to the opposition when lining up for the pre match handshakes. Just wish we'd have realised this in August.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:07 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:48 am
I don’t disagree with Goody’s assessment, but you touch on the problem. How many of the better performers are we going to keep if we go down? We could end up with an endless cycle of rinse and repeat, new builds every season.
If we are relegated, that is a major concern, we may well look at loaning out players to keep them on the books with the hope that we bounce straight back.

Even that will see us having to rebuild but the loan market may be the way to recruit. If we find the quality of Beyer, THB, Tella and Maatsen to supplement the players who may leave then we'd not be far off.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:17 am

Goody1975 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:07 am
If we are relegated, that is a major concern, we may well look at loaning out players to keep them on the books with the hope that we bounce straight back.

Even that will see us having to rebuild but the loan market may be the way to recruit. If we find the quality of Beyer, THB, Tella and Maatsen to supplement the players who may leave then we'd not be far off.
I find it difficult to compute keeping players out on loan, playing different systems to different expectations for a season helps mould a Burnley team. Surely, the objective is to have a core coming through together and another following… in a hopefully slowing down continue cycle of improvement… modern version of the Burnley system up to the 80’s… teams growing through together and knowing each other inside out.. wasted on loans.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:31 am

Goody1975 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:04 am
Speed and physicality are imperative at this level, it's something we have lacked all season.

I still have major concerns in the most important area of the pitch (central midfield), but we saw on Saturday how Esteve matched and then dispossessed Nunez (fastest recorded top speed in 2022 of 23.61mph ) in a foot race in the second half.

We have seen recent stats saying that O'Shea has the 5th fastest top speed this season.

Assignon looks to have extra height and speed compared to what has been seen at right back all season and it's obvious to see what Fofana has to offer.

We suddenly won't look like a team of under 16's in comparison to the opposition when lining up for the pre match handshakes. Just wish we'd have realised this in August.
yep, staggering how the majority of us knew we needed to add some serious physicality to our side and yet those inside Turf Moor didn't. I genuinely don't know how they screwed it up so badly

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:33 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:02 am
Still believing but it’s getting a bit like still believing in Santa after seeing your dad putting out the presents. Three points against Arsenal and I’ll be up for it again though. :?
good description !

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:33 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:17 am
I find it difficult to compute keeping players out on loan, playing different systems to different expectations for a season helps mould a Burnley team. Surely, the objective is to have a core coming through together and another following… in a hopefully slowing down continue cycle of improvement… modern version of the Burnley system up to the 80’s… teams growing through together and knowing each other inside out.. wasted on loans.
If we are relegated I agree it's far from ideal but some players will want to leave or will be targeted by clubs who want to take them off us.

Can we afford to keep to whole squad in the Championship? If we had a crystal ball and knew we'd bounce back at the first time of asking, then maybe at a push but it's a big risk if we don't.

I would like to stay away from the high turnover of players, and if that means letting some leave for a year but are back for pre season the following season then that is better than losing them altogether.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by bumba » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:38 am

Goody1975 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:57 pm
I agree, unless we cut out the soft goals we are dreaming but I think overall we are a better outfit (especially with the three new guys) than we were in the early stages of the season.
The three new guys have improved us but we don't turn up in games that matter like Luton and Fulham at home, hopefully that changes with these three now in the side.
We just have to beat Palace and hope results go our way the next few weeks to give ourselves any chance at all, we'll need to win every game against non big sides and maybe even throw a shock result in too along the way

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:54 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:17 pm
Na just couldn’t be arsed to spend over £100 to watch us lose for the 18th time this season.
Luckily football doesn't work like that for the majority. If everyone only turned up when your team wins or is going through a good patch then it would be a very poorly attended sport

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:34 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:54 am
Luckily football doesn't work like that for the majority. If everyone only turned up when your team wins or is going through a good patch then it would be a very poorly attended sport
I'd have missed several seasons if that was the case, several far worse than this season

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:40 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:17 pm
Na just couldn’t be arsed to spend over £100 to watch us lose for the 18th time this season.
The only thing you spend, re Burnley, is your time on here.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:44 am

I don't expect us to pick up many points between now and the end of the season. What I do expect is the same level of commitment shown at Anfield on Saturday.

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:48 am

After 19 games I predicted the remaining 19 games and had us to finish on 45 points.
Since then my predicted total has dropped to 40 points.
I might have been slightly optimistic :lol: :lol:

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by expoultryboy » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:48 pm

It depends if he keeps on insisting to playing Ramsey and Amdouni . With them 2 points , without them 7 points .

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Re: Next 10 games

Post by expoultryboy » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:50 pm

Oops , i read it wrong. I meant the next 5 games ( Biden moment) .

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