Ekdal and Al-Dakhil

[Goliath]

We went to five at the back against Spurs and got absolutely destroyed

We played 4 at the back against Arsenal and got destroyed

[wbfc]

Last time in the championship we started well and teams did not really attack us. I am not convinced by any of the centre halfs ...we have no full backs ...no solid goalkeeper ...no proper holding midfielder ...no goalscorer ...

we were heavily subsidised last time in the championship by 3 loan signings...

we have a manager who has signed over 10 players in a row with not one of them being good enough...

Then we have lost / will loose Barnes, Cork and probably Taylor who were 3 sold citizens...

Bad manager / bad players for me ... it was fantastic last time in the championship ...a miracle really ...but bang average at best for me next year....

[Vegas Claret]

Last time in the championship we started well and teams did not really attack us. I am not convinced by any of the centre halfs ...we have no full backs ...no solid goalkeeper ...no proper holding midfielder ...no goalscorer ...

we were heavily subsidised last time in the championship by 3 loan signings...

we have a manager who has signed over 10 players in a row with not one of them being good enough...

Then we have lost / will loose Barnes, Cork and probably Taylor who were 3 sold citizens...

Bad manager / bad players for me ... it was fantastic last time in the championship ...a miracle really ...but bang average at best for me next year....

you don't get over 100 points in any league if you are a bad manager, to suggest otherwise is just nonsense

[CoolClaret]

Bad manager and bad players but only lost 3 games all season

Talk about the stars aligning.

[nil_desperandum]

We played 4 at the back against Arsenal and got destroyed

4 at the back or 5 at the back we'll most likely always get destroyed against good teams unless we significantly strengthen our midfield, both in quality of players and in formation.

[Goliath]

4 at the back or 5 at the back we'll most likely always get destroyed against good teams unless we significantly strengthen our midfield, both in quality of players and in formation.

Yep its just odd to use one example of us taking a battering using 3 at the back when theres a lot more examples ofnus being battered with 4 at the back.

Im not a huge fan of using 3 but i do think we have the players to do it successfully at championship level at least when Koleosho is back. I think the only time it really works is when you have at least one all action attacking player like him at wing back.
Luton have been using Ogbene in a similar role i think.