Kompany to Brighton?

[kentonclaret]

Despite recent success I still struggle to see Brighton as a bigger club than us.

Maybe wishful thinking more than anything but also hard to see how they keep emulating their current success if they keep losing managers.

Hoping one of the reasons we signed Kompany is that he’s shown unbelievable loyalty to his two clubs so I’m hoping that means he’ll see the bigger picture of the success longevity can bring.

Brighton make huge profits not only on selling players but also departing managers. Graham Potter became the most expensive coach in history when he joined Chelsea in 2022.

[fidelcastro]

I mean is it not obvious VK wanted a left back and we didn’t get one…

You keep posting snide remarks behind your keyboard though

Nothing snide about it at all. We may well have wanted/needed a left back, but we didn't land one.

That doesn't mean it was the board refusing to sanction any move for one, especially as they were happy for VK to stockpile the squad with wingers.

[spt_claret]

Which part is daft? He’s been forced into playing dross like Taylor at fullback in the PL because the board didn’t sign the players he wanted.

You're such a toxic poster, not because you pick your favourites but because you're so hypocritical about it. You have your favourites, wedded to your views, but then rip into anyone who's similar (or isn't but has different opinions to you). Calling other people snide when you come out with this is unbelievable.
You tear into people who dare criticise Kompany or your favourites, but if a player's out of favour with Kompany you suddenly 100% see why and don't rate them, and if it's a player who you don't like (usually a Dyche holdover) you come out with stuff like this about them. Then run away from debates when people call you on it and don't rise to baiting. There is absolutely no way any reasonable person could describe Charlie Taylor as a 'dross' player. He's not the most suited to Kompany's style, and he's not as good as his prime, but 'dross like Taylor' is such a stupid and insulting comment. That dross, unsuited or not, has done better this season than some of Vincent's signings.

Years of shitting all over Dyche and now you sound in this thread like you'll be following Kompany if he goes to Brighton.

[FCBurnley]

Clubs can approach clubs for permission to speak to their manager. That’s the theory but definitely not the reality. Usually the formal approach comes once a manager has agreed the move.

We spoke to Coyle long before we asked St Johnstone for permission to speak to him and we all know that Bolton did likewise. Same with Howe and Bournemouth.

Spot on from my brief knowledge of the internal workings of the business of football

[Big Vinny K]

You're such a toxic poster, not because you pick your favourites but because you're so hypocritical about it. You have your favourites, wedded to your views, but then rip into anyone who's similar (or isn't but has different opinions to you). Calling other people snide when you come out with this is unbelievable.
You tear into people who dare criticise Kompany or your favourites, but if a player's out of favour with Kompany you suddenly 100% see why and don't rate them, and if it's a player who you don't like (usually a Dyche holdover) you come out with stuff like this about them. Then run away from debates when people call you on it and don't rise to baiting. There is absolutely no way any reasonable person could describe Charlie Taylor as a 'dross' player. He's not the most suited to Kompany's style, and he's not as good as his prime, but 'dross like Taylor' is such a stupid and insulting comment. That dross, unsuited or not, has done better this season than some of Vincent's signings.

Years of shitting all over Dyche and now you sound in this thread like you'll be following Kompany if he goes to Brighton.

Absolutely spot on.
It’s like he’s had some kind of accident and lost his memory.
Deals in extremes and offers no balance to his opinion at all…..on top of that regularly just makes up sh-it.

[bumba]

You don’t think he wanted two full backs? The board did not deliver them. No point speculating on why, just stick to the fact the board did not deliver.

Board didn't deliver or VK pinned all his hopes on Maatsen which backfired?

[spt_claret]

Board didn't deliver or VK pinned all his hopes on Maatsen which backfired?

Don't know that the latter's the case. We were linked with Quillindschy Hartman last June-July and I was elated at that as a prospect, felt he'd be the better call than Maatsen, but for whatever reason nothing came of the rumour. But it makes me think we did at least have eyes on other players. Quite why none where signed is probably for Mission To Burnley 2 to tell (or not).

[BigChaCha]

Typical, just as I thought he was learning in the last few games and finding his best team... I would hope that we would go for a similar progressive manager but maybe with a more experienced director of football above them... Or maybe a short-term stop-gap like a Moyes type to steady the ship and get us up, then steady the ship some more before hiring a more exciting manager... Our ceiling would be much lower with someone like him, we need to think big and I do think the board are of that mindset.

[Royboyclaret]

Don't know that the latter's the case. We were linked with Quillindschy Hartman last June-July and I was elated at that as a prospect, felt he'd be the better call than Maatsen, but for whatever reason nothing came of the rumour. But it makes me think we did at least have eyes on other players. Quite why none where signed is probably for Mission To Burnley 2 to tell (or not).

Where's the relevance in all this ??

If Brighton take him, they're wecome, take hime.

[Darnhill Claret]

I think we may have forgotten that Vincent's wife apparently wanted to return to the north-west. Brighton couldn't be further away. I am also convinced until it's proven otherwise that he wants to build/rebuild a VK dynasty here to prove that a name can succeed at a small club and then succeed at a bigger one. He doesn't seem to be in a massive rush to achieve that. Think he might like to eventually prove up to the Man City job. Not an ambition that will be realised overnight.

[ClaretTony]

Seems Pace thinks Sacha Tavolieri is a child

[123EasyasBFC]

Seems Pace thinks Sacha Tavolieri is a child

I agree with Pace, the way Sacha is on X is is a child. But pace has no room to talk after the free Nathan tella saga

[Bosscat]

Alan P doing a Forest

https://x.com/AlanPaceBFC/status/1782438651646869949

[Rileybobs]

Out of the mouths of babes

[ksrclaret]

If anyone knows about the pitfalls on letting your children play on X, it’s definitely Alan Pace.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

The weirdest thing is Brighton wanting to part with De Zerbi

[bumba]

Don't know that the latter's the case. We were linked with Quillindschy Hartman last June-July and I was elated at that as a prospect, felt he'd be the better call than Maatsen, but for whatever reason nothing came of the rumour. But it makes me think we did at least have eyes on other players. Quite why none where signed is probably for Mission To Burnley 2 to tell (or not).

Yes but VK maybe choose not to get that over the line thinking we was close with Maatsen which all back fired.
We don't know how close these deals were all we do know is Maatsen was who VK pursued all summer and it fell flat, come January we still didn't have another left back lined up

[Pickles]

Whether it's Brighton next season, Burnley the season after once he's got us back up, or elsewhere... Kompany will continue to be a Premier League manager soon enough. He's not got everything right this season, he's got lots wrong. But he'll manage at the top level and can absolutely see why Brighton would be interested, if the links are true.

[equinox]

The weirdest thing is Brighton wanting to part with De Zerbi

They don't, do they?

[ClaretTony]

The weirdest thing is Brighton wanting to part with De Zerbi

They don’t but it appears that De Zerbi wants to part with Brighton

[bfcjg]

De Zerbi to Burnley ?

[Cooclaret]

You're such a toxic poster, not because you pick your favourites but because you're so hypocritical about it. You have your favourites, wedded to your views, but then rip into anyone who's similar (or isn't but has different opinions to you). Calling other people snide when you come out with this is unbelievable.
You tear into people who dare criticise Kompany or your favourites, but if a player's out of favour with Kompany you suddenly 100% see why and don't rate them, and if it's a player who you don't like (usually a Dyche holdover) you come out with stuff like this about them. Then run away from debates when people call you on it and don't rise to baiting. There is absolutely no way any reasonable person could describe Charlie Taylor as a 'dross' player. He's not the most suited to Kompany's style, and he's not as good as his prime, but 'dross like Taylor' is such a stupid and insulting comment. That dross, unsuited or not, has done better this season than some of Vincent's signings.

Years of shitting all over Dyche and now you sound in this thread like you'll be following Kompany if he goes to Brighton.

Not wanting to offer opinions on the conversations on the thread but perhaps just a gentle reminder that behind every user name is a person and that person might be a little delicate we just don’t know!

It’s easy for things to escalate to personal insults on message board as we all are passionate, and get annoyed at various things but perhaps kill them with kindness is a better approach.

[expoultryboy]

He'd be good fit for utd .

[123EasyasBFC]

Don’t actually think Brighton have been all that good this season, won 2 in 10.

Could well be first season in Europe that has had a negative affect on their league form

[Anonymous Claret]

Not wanting to offer opinions on the conversations on the thread but perhaps just a gentle reminder that behind every user name is a person and that person might be a little delicate we just don’t know!

It’s easy for things to escalate to personal insults on message board as we all are passionate, and get annoyed at various things but perhaps kill them with kindness is a better approach.

Good point made. None of us know how anyone might be feeling at a particular time. The thing with KRBFC is that he has previous and loads of it for abusing posters who don't agree with his opinions. I can fully understand why some posters react at times. Hopefully he will be more measured in how he treats his fellow Clarets for having a different opinion to his.

[boatshed bill]

I'm sure there'll be plenty on here delighted if VK was to leave.
No more head-scratching selections, baffling substitutions, clueless tactics.
Everyone's a winner

[GetIntoEm]

Pace should come out and quash this...oh wait a minute

[bumba]

Don’t actually think Brighton have been all that good this season, won 2 in 10.

Could well be first season in Europe that has had a negative affect on their league form

Personally don't think De Zerbi is all there building him up to be

[Goliath]

Personally don't think De Zerbi is all there building him up to be

His football is absolutely mind numbingly dull. Centre backs stand on the ball until someone gets bored and tries to press then pass round the back extremely slowly for 20 minutes until the other team loses patience again.It reminds me of that scene from the Simpsons years back.

[Cirrus_Minor]

One of the reasons that VK came here (allegedly) was because his wife was homesick for the northwest. Maybe that was a ruse along the lines of Howes wanting to be back down Bournemouth way and then ending up in Newcastle.

[Nonayforever]

De Zerbi to Burnley ?

I think it's Liverpool that tickles his fancy.

[123EasyasBFC]

Personally don't think De Zerbi is all there building him up to be

He came in a followed on from the good start potter made to the season. Don’t get me wrong he carried it on but there has been so much hype on him

[CoolClaret]

If VK left us for whatever reason (not that I think he will) the first manager on my shortlist would probably be Mark Robins.

Done an unbelievable job with Coventry on the budget he's had - can spot/develop talent as well.

[KRBFC]

You tear into people who dare criticise Kompany or your favourites, but if a player's out of favour with Kompany you suddenly 100% see why and don't rate them, and if it's a player who you don't like (usually a Dyche holdover) you come out with stuff like this about them. Then run away from debates when people call you on it and don't rise to baiting. There is absolutely no way any reasonable person could describe Charlie Taylor as a 'dross' player. He's not the most suited to Kompany's style, and he's not as good as his prime, but 'dross like Taylor' is such a stupid and insulting comment. That dross, unsuited or not, has done better this season than some of Vincent's signings.

Years of shitting all over Dyche and now you sound in this thread like you'll be following Kompany if he goes to Brighton.

Lies, I see why Al Dakhil, Zaroury and Ramsey have been on the fringes this season (when fit), I don’t believe they are ready for PL football YET. That doesn’t mean I don’t rate them, I think all 3 will go on to have great futures here, Anass is one of my favourite ever Clarets.

As for why I hold a stronger opinion on the Dyche players, it’s pretty simple really, they have been here for years and we’ve had enough time to form an opinion. Maybe dross was a little harsh on Taylor who’s been a fantastic player for us over the years, let’s just say over the hill/one of the worst in the league.

What’s the difference between me calling Taylor and Rodriguez out for not being good enough anymore and those who have tore into Trafford and Amdouni all season?

Just like when I slagged off Dyche, I was called out by posters but now it’s toxic to disagree with calling out posters who slag off VK?

Let’s at least keep it fair, there’s no real difference between supporting 1 manager and calling 1 out. It’s toxic to call Taylor dross but it’s fine to hammer new young players like Trafford.

[kentonclaret]

Don’t actually think Brighton have been all that good this season, won 2 in 10.

Could well be first season in Europe that has had a negative affect on their league form

Selling key midfielders Caicedo and Mac Allister and being without key players due to injury for a lengthy part of this season including Solly March, Mitoma, Milner, Gilmour, Ferguson, Joao Pedro etc probably hasn’t helped.

[Bullabill]

Personally don't think De Zerbi is all there

What do you think he's lacking?

[Goalposts]

The weirdest thing is Brighton wanting to part with De Zerbi

They don’t he’s Man Utd bound, but Chelsea are also keen

[benbfc]

Just seen Alan on the train to London this morning and this certainly is not happening!

[HahaYeah]

He's not exactly proved himself in the Prem (yet, anyway) so not worried about anyone coming in for him.

[beeholeclaret]

Sacha says Brighton have had conversations with VK's 'entourage' - which I presume means his agent.

I believe Brighton desperately need a ‘free kick / set pieces’ coach

[Tribesmen]

I am sure that Journos sit around a table in the evening thinking of something to write about " what about Kompany to Brighton " Yer the would be good print it why not .

Here in Ireland i am on a forum and we have had so far 422 pages of who will be the next manager of the Republic , so far everyone has been wrong .

An what it called , $hite talk .

[spt_claret]

Lies, I see why Al Dakhil, Zaroury and Ramsey have been on the fringes this season (when fit), I don’t believe they are ready for PL football YET. That doesn’t mean I don’t rate them, I think all 3 will go on to have great futures here, Anass is one of my favourite ever Clarets.

Zaroury's barely played, you've decided Kompany's spot on off of hat- 1 bad game? Same with Benson you give it "Oh I'd have liked to see more BUT I agree". You're incapable of ever actually criticising Kompany because you've nailed your colours to his mast so tightly after constantly berating the previous manager. Even in threads where people question aspects of team selection and you wade in on defence, if people make a good point that engages on your terms, you clam up. I've literally never seen you post anything that isn't 100% agreement with Kompany and flip flopping your own assessments of players to match.

As for why I hold a stronger opinion on the Dyche players, it’s pretty simple really, they have been here for years and we’ve had enough time to form an opinion. Maybe dross was a little harsh on Taylor who’s been a fantastic player for us over the years, let’s just say over the hill/one of the worst in the league.

"a little harsh" - youd' go nuclear if someone used that language over a player you like.And you had these sorts of opinion back during Dyche's era, because you didn't like that era. Smacks of being a holdover.

What’s the difference between me calling Taylor and Rodriguez out for not being good enough anymore and those who have tore into Trafford and Amdouni all season?

Just like when I slagged off Dyche, I was called out by posters but now it’s toxic to disagree with calling out posters who slag off VK?

To spell it out again- the difference isn't in criticism. I don't agree with the level of abuse heaped on Trafford and Amdouni by certain posters- we can all name who in the former's case. The difference is the fact you constantly take pops at players you don't like/rate (Taylor being one, harping on every little mistake Muric made Saturday saying he'd thrown one in his own net again), but then pick up on other people who do the same.

It's not toxic to criticise a manager/player, or disagree with someone else's criticism. It's toxic to dish out abuse, but then police other peoples' criticism. You've no grounds to say "don't talk about a player like that" with how you carry on.

Let’s at least keep it fair, there’s no real difference between supporting 1 manager and calling 1 out. It’s toxic to call Taylor dross but it’s fine to hammer new young players like Trafford.

Again - show me when I have ever said this. You'll find I haven't, and despite criticising Trafford have pushed back against the abuse he's got.

[KRBFC]

To spell it out again- the difference isn't in criticism. I don't agree with the level of abuse heaped on Trafford and Amdouni by certain posters- we can all name who in the former's case. The difference is the fact you constantly take pops at players you don't like/rate (Taylor being one, harping on every little mistake Muric made Saturday saying he'd thrown one in his own net again), but then pick up on other people who do the same.

It's not toxic to criticise a manager/player, or disagree with someone else's criticism. It's toxic to dish out abuse, but then police other peoples' criticism. You've no grounds to say "don't talk about a player like that" with how you carry on.

You’re making up crap as you go along, telling me who I like and don’t. I was a staunch defender of Muric last season, I said this season Id like to see him playing over Trafford.

The fact is he’s made two awful mistakes at a critical time of the season and without those we might be outside the relegation zone. Of course he’s going to receive criticism for those mistakes and of course fans are going to be nervous with him in goal for the following game.

I slag off Dyche and get dogs abuse which is warranted, but it’s toxic to give those same posters a bit back when they criticise VK.

[JimmyRobbo]

I think it's Liverpool that tickles his fancy.

Definitely.

I can't see them wanting him as a #1.

I also think it is more likely his agent and Brighton all being happy if he moves on and this is stoking the fire. Throwing mud out there and hoping it creates interest.

I could well see BHA as a step up for VK but would they really want him after this season?

[JarrowClaret]

Are people seriously concerned about Kompany being on a list of potential replacements for De Zerbi. It doesn’t surprise me or concern me in the least, he fits there normal mould but I would be shocked if he was on top of the list. I doubt Kompany himself would have been spoken too them but would expect there to have been initial talks in the background with his management team that is just normal.

[Quicknick]

It wouldn't worry me if he went.

[boyyanno]

You’re making up crap as you go along, telling me who I like and don’t. I was a staunch defender of Muric last season, I said this season Id like to see him playing over Trafford.

The fact is he’s made two awful mistakes at a critical time of the season and without those we might be outside the relegation zone. Of course he’s going to receive criticism for those mistakes and of course fans are going to be nervous with him in goal for the following game.

I slag off Dyche and get dogs abuse which is warranted, but it’s toxic to give those same posters a bit back when they criticise VK.

It's not your opinion that people dislike (they might disagree) but that's different. The problem is that your toxic in whatever you chose, be it to complain or defend.

I can't give any better example than what you've said about Taylor and how Kompany has been forced to play such "dross".

People might actually respect what you have to say if you can articulate it in a way that isn't laden with abuse.

For the record I agreed with your point that Kompany could be a better fit for a team like Brighton than us, mainly because his style is far more suited to a team that is a market leader in its respective division (this is pretty much the opposite of Dyche).

But you can't say that, instead you've attacked Taylor to try and support your opinion.

[bumba]

You’re making up crap as you go along, telling me who I like and don’t. I was a staunch defender of Muric last season, I said this season Id like to see him playing over Trafford.

The fact is he’s made two awful mistakes at a critical time of the season and without those we might be outside the relegation zone. Of course he’s going to receive criticism for those mistakes and of course fans are going to be nervous with him in goal for the following game.

I slag off Dyche and get dogs abuse which is warranted, but it’s toxic to give those same posters a bit back when they criticise VK.

I think you'll find our form over the course of the season is why we are in the relegation zone, not just Murics two errors

[KRBFC]

I think you'll find our form over the course of the season is why we are in the relegation zone, not just Murics two errors

Of course that goes without saying but it’s do or die and we surrender points like that? So frustrating.

[Big Vinny K]

Of course that goes without saying but it’s do or die and we surrender points like that? So frustrating.

Most reasonable fans will look at things over a a number of games rather than pick out the mistakes or games to suit an opinion they had already made.
When you look at the period of time Muric has returned to the team and compare that to the period of time when Trafford was playing I do not know anyone who has said that they believe Trafford (or the team) performed better than Muric.

And I have been strongly against the abuse and obsession that some posters on this board have given Trafford. It’s been embarrassing and toxic is not too strong a description. Again most reasonable fans took a much more balanced view that whilst they were also calling for Muric to replace Trafford they were also fully aware that Muric had serious flaws in him too and that has been proven by his big mistakes which have cost us important points.