Furlough cash
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Furlough cash
Seems like we ended up claiming Furlough cash after all.
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Re: Furlough cash
I guess a lot of employees can’t work if there’s no matchday so it makes sense that football clubs would still be claiming.
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Good, the more people claim, the more likely they will end all this carry on.
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Furlough has been a lifesaver for some but abused by many and gone on too long now.
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If you can afford to pay players millions of pounds a year you should not be claiming furlough. I don’t agree with the club claiming this.
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I think furlough money could be claimed for zero hours contract staff. I don't think anyone would expect the club to carry on paying the casual labour that only works matchdays, so maybe they're the ones who benefitted from the furlough cash?
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Is that right, Rovers claimed more than us?
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The government should have refused to give premier league clubs Furlough monies with the amount the playing and management staff are paid. The clubs should have been shamed into doing a deal with the players to pay the wages of the backroom staff
Furlough and loans have been abused, I have heard of people who are using the loan monies to buy cars due to low interest rates for pay backs. I know of people back working full time in hospitality who are still being paid Furlough with hours topped up in cash
Furlough and loans have been abused, I have heard of people who are using the loan monies to buy cars due to low interest rates for pay backs. I know of people back working full time in hospitality who are still being paid Furlough with hours topped up in cash
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I can agree with those two points but a lot of billion pound companies have claimed so why shouldn’t we?Top Claret wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:12 amThe government should have refused to give premier league clubs Furlough monies with the amount the playing and management staff are paid.
Furlough and loans have been abused.
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How can zero hours contracts be covered by furlough? The whole idea behind zero hours contracts is that the person employed under it has no rights to a set amount of hours/money? Anyway, zero hours is a massive subject just in its own and big enough to warrant its own thread here. I’d expect match day staff to get sorted one way or tother, that’s only right, but I’m struggling to get how it can be done thru furlough if they are on zero hours.
I’m with boss hogg on this. It is morally wrong that when wages for the players are astronomical, the lad in the ticket office/turnstile gets his wage paid by furlough.
Same sort of scenario when the club goes bust/administration.... players get paid, the milkman is lucky to get 10p in the £.
The “business” of football is absolutely ****.
I’m with boss hogg on this. It is morally wrong that when wages for the players are astronomical, the lad in the ticket office/turnstile gets his wage paid by furlough.
Same sort of scenario when the club goes bust/administration.... players get paid, the milkman is lucky to get 10p in the £.
The “business” of football is absolutely ****.
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Its life I am afraid.
Of course the furlough scheme and bounce back loans have been abused. But where would we be without them? Poverty and anarchy come to mind. The government could have spent weeks/months checking every application and passing legislation to deal with the cheats but the most important thing was to get the funds out there
It is no different to benefits swindlers but the good outweighs the evil
I suspect many of those who spent the money inappropriately will be dealt with in due course but it is not today's issue
Of course the furlough scheme and bounce back loans have been abused. But where would we be without them? Poverty and anarchy come to mind. The government could have spent weeks/months checking every application and passing legislation to deal with the cheats but the most important thing was to get the funds out there
It is no different to benefits swindlers but the good outweighs the evil
I suspect many of those who spent the money inappropriately will be dealt with in due course but it is not today's issue
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What's the craic in the UK for those who got payments do they have to pay it all back in back taxes ?
Hey here in Ireland i got a top up on my wages but still worked ( something to do with take home pay in the last 12 months before ) but i have to pay the top up back over 4 years .
Hey here in Ireland i got a top up on my wages but still worked ( something to do with take home pay in the last 12 months before ) but i have to pay the top up back over 4 years .
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Football is a different buisness model with so few staff taking out the lions share of the turnover in salaries, and in some cases more than turnover, especially in the championshiphuw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:19 amI can agree with those two points but a lot of billion pound companies have claimed so why shouldn’t we?
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Furlough for zero hours contract workers is based on their average or equivalent pay over the past year.bobinho wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:21 amHow can zero hours contracts be covered by furlough? The whole idea behind zero hours contracts is that the person employed under it has no rights to a set amount of hours/money? Anyway, zero hours is a massive subject just in its own and big enough to warrant its own thread here. I’d expect match day staff to get sorted one way or tother, that’s only right, but I’m struggling to get how it can be done thru furlough if they are on zero hours.
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And yes, I know there is quite a large school of thought that casual Saturday jobs should be outlawed and the club shouldn't be allowed turnstile operators on a pay-per-match basis. Though I have never been clear what the alternative is.
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There is no future tax implication. People who got laid off on furlough received 80% of their wage from their employer and the employer claimed it back via the PAYE system'. There is no future implication for either the employee or the employer.Tribesmen wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:25 amWhat's the craic in the UK for those who got payments do they have to pay it all back in back taxes ?
Hey here in Ireland i got a top up on my wages but still worked ( something to do with take home pay in the last 12 months before ) but i have to pay the top up back over 4 years .
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Because it's based on average pay/hours for the previous 12 months, not contracted hours.bobinho wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:21 amHow can zero hours contracts be covered by furlough? The whole idea behind zero hours contracts is that the person employed under it has no rights to a set amount of hours/money? Anyway, zero hours is a massive subject just in its own and big enough to warrant its own thread here. I’d expect match day staff to get sorted one way or tother, that’s only right, but I’m struggling to get how it can be done thru furlough if they are on zero hours.
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I don't really get the demonisation of football clubs using the furlough scheme. Plenty of other businesses where there are massive disparities between the bottom and top earners used it with no controversy. I've not seen anyone saying JCB shouldn't have used the furlough scheme because the Bamfords earn tens of millions each year.
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I’d be asking questions if they weren’t claiming it, that’s literally what it’s for
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Why? There are loads of businesses that make a bigger profit that Burnley where the top earners are paid significantly more than the bottom earners.Top Claret wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:12 amThe government should have refused to give premier league clubs Furlough monies with the amount the playing and management staff are paid. The clubs should have been shamed into doing a deal with the players to pay the wages of the backroom staff
At the end of the day the players continued to work throughout this pandemic whereas a huge number of BFC’s staff didn’t have a job to go to. I have absolutely no problem with the club using the furlough scheme, it was put in place to save jobs. Had we made mass redundancies I would have seen your point.
I would like to think that the club topped up the wages of those on furlough though.
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I’m glad people who weren’t able to do their jobs due to the pandemic still received money to live off.