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Dail mail now reporting Young is in line for an emotional return to Aston Villa.
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Our squad isn’t in a ‘really poor position’. We need a few players, that’s a given, but they’re not ‘desperately required’ before we return to pre-season. It would be nice to get some of our business done early but the reality of the situation is that some signings may need to wait.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:48 pmIt is only June but we are in a really poor position with our squad. Signings desperately required before we return for pre season.
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I nearly spit my brew out when I read thatrandomclaret2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:08 pmMust be quite a thing for the new owners to make their first signing for the club; this is where retaining Mr Garlick's expertise in such matters will be invaluable..
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Let's face it, if we lose and cannot adequately replace James Tarkowski v Ashley Young will scarcely be relevant to our survival.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:55 pmDail mail now reporting Young is in line for an emotional return to Aston Villa.
We need to get the important business done first.
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Really?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:56 pmOur squad isn’t in a ‘really poor position’. We need a few players, that’s a given, but they’re not ‘desperately required’ before we return to pre-season. It would be nice to get some of our business done early but the reality of the situation is that some signings may need to wait.
We have a senior squad of what 20 players? With 6 of them out of contract at the end of next season. When you add into the fact there is a good chance we will be fielding the oldest eleven in the league next season, wouldnt exactly say we are in a healthy spot.
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Well as things stand we have a squad that survived an injury ravaged season comfortably, without any significant departures. So it’s nowhere near as desperate as you’re making out. We’ll hopefully sign a few players to strengthen the areas where we are weakest but we don’t ‘desperately’ need to sign these players before pre-season starts. And it’s unrealistic to expect that we will.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:00 pmReally?
We have a senior squad of what 20 players? With 6 of them out of contract at the end of next season. When you add into the fact there is a good chance we will be fielding the oldest eleven in the league next season, wouldnt exactly say we are in a healthy spot.
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Thats what i had been told,and posted earlier.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:55 pmDail mail now reporting Young is in line for an emotional return to Aston Villa.
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Fair enough, I just don’t see how having the oldest squad in the league with 30% of the squad out of contract in 12 months can be deemed as not poor.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:04 pmWell as things stand we have a squad that survived an injury ravaged season comfortably, without any significant departures. So it’s nowhere near as desperate as you’re making out. We’ll hopefully sign a few players to strengthen the areas where we are weakest but we don’t ‘desperately’ need to sign these players before pre-season starts. And it’s unrealistic to expect that we will.
We are expecting miracles from Dyche if we go into this season without major additions.
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Someone has got to have the oldest squad in the league. I haven’t said we will go into this season without any additions, just that the situation is nowhere near as desperate as you’re making out. And that saying we need these players in before pre-season starts is daft and unrealistic.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:08 pmFair enough, I just don’t see how having the oldest squad in the league with 30% of the squad out of contract in 12 months can be deemed as not poor.
We are expecting miracles from Dyche if we go into this season without major additions.
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A lot more competition for Young at Villa than there would be with us. I was encourage by him signing for us for a year, but if this is true then I can see why he’d want to go back.
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Very unlikely that we will have the players we want in before pre-season. The concern is that new signings might not arrive until after the season has started.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:11 pmSomeone has got to have the oldest squad in the league. I haven’t said we will go into this season without any additions, just that the situation is nowhere near as desperate as you’re making out. And that saying we need these players in before pre-season starts is daft and unrealistic.
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Why is it daft and unrealistic? What are we actually getting out of the new owners, I thought there whole selling point to the fans was that they could get business done quicker?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:11 pmSomeone has got to have the oldest squad in the league. I haven’t said we will go into this season without any additions, just that the situation is nowhere near as desperate as you’re making out. And that saying we need these players in before pre-season starts is daft and unrealistic.
If they can’t then what do we actually gain from this takeover
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Yes agreed, that would be more of a concern. But I wouldn’t be overly concerned if we had to play the first couple of games of the season with our current squad. Any departures obviously change that scenario.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:14 pmVery unlikely that we will have the players we want in before pre-season. The concern is that new signings might not arrive until after the season has started.
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Tony out of interest what is the reasoning? Surely Dyche wants these players in for pre seasonClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:14 pmVery unlikely that we will have the players we want in before pre-season. The concern is that new signings might not arrive until after the season has started.
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Who is this concern lying with ? Dyche? Is this why he hasn’t signed ?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:14 pmVery unlikely that we will have the players we want in before pre-season. The concern is that new signings might not arrive until after the season has started.
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We do not want to be starting the season with the current squad
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Because not a lot of business gets done before pre-season starts. Especially not when an international tournament is ongoing.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:15 pmWhy is it daft and unrealistic? What are we actually getting out of the new owners, I thought there whole selling point to the fans was that they could get business done quicker?
If they can’t then what do we actually gain from this takeover
Not sure where you have got that selling point about the new owners from? I’ve never seen anything from them that suggests that. I also don’t understand your question about what we gain from the takeover as the intention was never for ‘us’ to gain anything. The previous owners wanted to sell and the new owners wanted to buy.
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Do you mean that this will have a bearing on whether Dyche is still with us, or are just concerned about the quality of the current squad?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:19 pmWe do not want to be starting the season with the current squad
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The new owners have regularly talked about how funds will be made available to get deals done quicker and to support Dyche.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:20 pmBecause not a lot of business gets done before pre-season starts. Especially not when an international tournament is ongoing.
Not sure where you have got that selling point about the new owners from? I’ve never seen anything from them that suggests that. I also don’t understand your question about what we gain from the takeover as the intention was never for ‘us’ to gain anything. The previous owners wanted to sell and the new owners wanted to buy.
Not every club is in our position though? We do not want to be going into the season with the same squad
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Reckon he will defo go to Villa if they are interested. Im sure you they can offer higher wages, maybe the contract length could persuade him to join us.
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We need new players and we don’t want a situation where they are coming in after the start of the season. There have to be concerns with the current squad. It ended last season with seven defeats in the last nine games.
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If we start the season with the current squad then someone somewhere has failed and let us down badly.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:33 pmWe need new players and we don’t want a situation where they are coming in after the start of the season. There have to be concerns with the current squad. It ended last season with seven defeats in the last nine games.
We cannot start the season with the current squad it’s threadbare and lacking in both pace and quality.
Young for me would be a good start to recruitment. Our most important positions for our style under Dyche are the full backs.
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Tony has something changed recently? I was under the impression things were starting to look up on a recruitment point of viewClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:33 pmWe need new players and we don’t want a situation where they are coming in after the start of the season. There have to be concerns with the current squad. It ended last season with seven defeats in the last nine games.
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Changed in what sense?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:40 pmTony has something changed recently? I was under the impression things were starting to look up on a recruitment point of view
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Anyone see Pritchard been linked ?
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Was always worried when we hit the BeeB yesterdayNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:55 pmDail mail now reporting Young is in line for an emotional return to Aston Villa.
My mate called it, your signing Cashley Young
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The cynic in me thinks it's likely the noise around him joining us was probably part used by his agent to get other offers.
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Fact of life - only the big, big spenders can offer the contracts terms (and fringe benefits) that will complete early deals. The market dictates late, late (Brexit-like) deals where agents are very heavily involved. They always advise their clients to wait and see what turns up. This now applies to our manager as well as to any of our incoming or outgoing players.
The only change in this situation as far as BFC is concerned is likely to surround a suitor for Tarks at an attractive fee. Even then our club will have to persuade a player, his agent and the parent club to part with an asset, rather than hanging on for a better 11th hour offer.
Unfortunately I can only see us starting the new season with the same team - except Tarks.
The only change in this situation as far as BFC is concerned is likely to surround a suitor for Tarks at an attractive fee. Even then our club will have to persuade a player, his agent and the parent club to part with an asset, rather than hanging on for a better 11th hour offer.
Unfortunately I can only see us starting the new season with the same team - except Tarks.
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What's changed is we used to have cash to pay up front but now the club is in debt thanks to the new owner.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:40 pmTony has something changed recently? I was under the impression things were starting to look up on a recruitment point of view
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High profile players that are in demand are not going to end up playing for BFC.
We cannot afford to pay the high wages and offer a lucrative enough contract that is attractive to these big name players/earners.
That is just a fact of life.
We cannot afford to pay the high wages and offer a lucrative enough contract that is attractive to these big name players/earners.
That is just a fact of life.
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Looking that way. If Villa are interested, that’s that, but also wouldn’t shock me to see him accept an improved deal at Inter after a load of speculation.
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Aston Villa interested in signing free agent Ashley Young.
They are expected to open talks with his representatives this week.
Aston Villa interested in signing free agent Ashley Young.
They are expected to open talks with his representatives this week.
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Villa want him as back up for their main 1st choice players and because they need an experienced head in the dressing room.
(this is something Dyche has always tried to do, which occasionally he gets pilloried for on here)
(this is something Dyche has always tried to do, which occasionally he gets pilloried for on here)
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I don't agree with this, I'm pretty sure the old board will have been a big part of structuring the deal with the new owners. Equally we didn't spend money up front in the last window when the old board was still here (I'm not counting Dale Stephens).levraiclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:20 pmWhat's changed is we used to have cash to pay up front but now the club is in debt thanks to the new owner.
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If SD starts next season without signing a new deal when does the board start making discreet inquiries about a possibility of a new manager ?? Surely we can't keep the faith right until 1st June 2022 and he waves goodbye ?
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What does that have to do with transfers?
Why not count Stephens?
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Very few (if any) of us really know the financial situation at the club.
My own guess is we haven't a pot to urinate in...
exciting times
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Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:55 pmDail mail now reporting Young is in line for an emotional return to Aston Villa.
The Daily Mail also reported on 6 June that Sean Dyche would be signing a new contract during the course of the following week.
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Well given our owners/directors have a history of failing at clubs and being forced out due to lack of finances I would suggest that is true.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:48 pmVery few (if any) of us really know the financial situation at the club.
My own guess is we haven't a pot to urinate in...
exciting times
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Either Cashley wants to sign for us or he doesn't
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Do they ?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:50 pmWell given our owners/directors have a history of failing at clubs and being forced out due to lack of finances I would suggest that is true.
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What are you talking about? I've replied to a comment on this thread that is about transfers and why we can't sign them. I have disagreed with his comment about blame lying solely on the new owner when the old board clearly have as much to do with it.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:47 pmWhat does that have to do with transfers?
Why not count Stephens?
I am not counting Dale Stephens as a signing that we payed up front for as it was peanuts.
If I was in the mood I would point out your post literally has nothing to do with transfers, you only seen interested in my opinion. You also seem to have gotten very defensive on another users behalf, are you one of those with multiple accounts?
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Well we’ll find that out over the next 10 weeks for sure.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:48 pmVery few (if any) of us really know the financial situation at the club.
My own guess is we haven't a pot to urinate in...
exciting times
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Chester gave a bit of info on this on one of the other threads.
Once you start reading into it, there are some stark similarities.
I researched checketts and was pretty shocked the takeover was allowed to go ahead by the FA.
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It’s probably how it comes across in writing. Not defensive at all just didn’t understand your point.Conroy92 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:55 pmWhat are you talking about? I've replied to a comment on this thread that is about transfers and why we can't sign them. I have disagreed with his comment about blame lying solely on the new owner when the old board clearly have as much to do with it.
I am not counting Dale Stephens as a signing that we payed up front for as it was peanuts.
If I was in the mood I would point out your post literally has nothing to do with transfers, you only seen interested in my opinion. You also seem to have gotten very defensive on another users behalf, are you one of those with multiple accounts?
The previous owners sold the club for an amount, it’s the new owners that haven’t got money.
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Exactly. Think we’re going to be linked with a fair few this summer with so many Bosmans knocking around and I only want the players that really want to be here. If AY, or any other target for that matter, would rather be at Villa - fair enough and good luck. Just hope we go big on the ones we really want.
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And when did we last pay cash for a deal? What we have got now is a chairman who is prepared to back the manager.levraiclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:20 pmWhat's changed is we used to have cash to pay up front but now the club is in debt thanks to the new owner.
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Newcastleclaret93 is obsessed with firing uneducated shots based on complete guesswork at the new owners.
It’s tedious.
It’s tedious.
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What is incorrect please enlighten me.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:07 pmNewcastleclaret93 is obsessed with firing uneducated shots based on complete guesswork at the new owners.
It’s tedious.