Leaked England 11 vs Germany
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Leaked England 11 vs Germany
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Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
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Re: Leaked England 11 vs Germany
Seen something similar reported by David Ornstein from the Athletic.
Saka and Sterling deserve their places for me.
Saka and Sterling deserve their places for me.
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Doesn't surprise me that Southgate has gone negative and decided to 'match' Germany's formation. I think it's a bad move as 1. we haven't played with this formation for 7 games now while they have been using it throughout 2. it doesn't suit our midfield two of Phillips and Rice who will be up against two world class operators in Kroos and Goretza 3. it removes another one of our very talented attackers from the pitch (no Mount, Foden or Grealish).
Hope I am proven wrong but not a fan!
Hope I am proven wrong but not a fan!
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If true:
That team will have little impact in taking the game to the Germans and it'll be a matter of time before someone in the back five drops a clanger and we lose.
Still, I can't ever recall Southgate setting up an attacking line-up for either club or country.
That team will have little impact in taking the game to the Germans and it'll be a matter of time before someone in the back five drops a clanger and we lose.
Still, I can't ever recall Southgate setting up an attacking line-up for either club or country.
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Yes I agree Sterling has been one of the few England players who looks like bagging a goal, and Saka definitely has to be given a starting berth following his performance in the CR game, not convinced by the 2 holding midfielders again, but I guess GS will argue that they've made us more solid and aided our defence in keeping clean sheets, if he's going 5 at the back then fine, but the full backs will need to provide the out balls and attacking threat, otherwise we'll struggle to break down Germany.ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 amSeen something similar reported by David Ornstein from the Athletic.
Saka and Sterling deserve their places for me.
And that midfield 2 of Phillips & Rice doesn't exactly look very creative does it, although TBF Phillips did create the goal against Croatia, so if they can perhaps interchange with one sitting and one pushing further forward it might work, but to not play one of Foden, Grealish or Mount surprises me especially in a KO game.
And if England crash out limply with that team and formation GS will rightly face huge criticism, of course on the flip side if we progress he'll be hailed a tactical genius, that's the pitfalls of international management.
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Push Saka back for Shaw and bring in Sancho on the wing and drop Rice or Philips for Foden.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 amPickford
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
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We will still lose on pens whatever the starting XI
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Sounds like a good idea if you want us to get absolutely pumped.claretburns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:32 amPush Saka back for Shaw and bring in Sancho on the wing and drop Rice or Philips for Foden.
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Hope that isn't right.
The one thing we have done will in this tournament is negate threat so why change the system that has done that?
Five at the back plus two holding midfielders is excessively defensive unless the full backs can really get forward.
The one thing we have done will in this tournament is negate threat so why change the system that has done that?
Five at the back plus two holding midfielders is excessively defensive unless the full backs can really get forward.
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Looking forward to the battle between Muller and Rice.
Just hope we don’t lose to a Muller corner.
Just hope we don’t lose to a Muller corner.
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This German side are playing on memory. There for the taking and that’s the best Sarfgate can do!
At least he has a strong bench, I think he’s going to need them.
At least he has a strong bench, I think he’s going to need them.
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It will confuse the Germans as we are quite obviously playing for penalties
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Anyone seen the BBC documentary
'The impossible job" ?
'The impossible job" ?
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It's not Sarfgate, remember. It's Gareth. Might be Sarfgate tomorrow.minnieclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:30 pmThis German side are playing on memory. There for the taking and that’s the best Sarfgate can do!
At least he has a strong bench, I think he’s going to need them.
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England win inside 90 minutes
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I dont think even Gareth would be that dumb... this smacks of a leak to "mislead" the opposition. Wasn't there also a leaked line up for the last game that looked nothing like how we actually lined up.
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Don’t like the look of that at all. Would like to see more creativity and Foden starting.
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What time will you be posting the next "leaked" team?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 amPickford
Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Saka Kane Sterling
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Reporters are lazily suggesting we will “match them up”. Couldn’t be more untrue.
We are playing seven defensive players and three offensive players (one of whom played most of last season in defence and the other spent much of it on the bench).
Whereas Rice and Philips will be “matched up” to Kroos and Gundogan. Over 100 career goals.
I have a feeling it will need lots of Imperial Stout tonight before I convince myself that it’s coming home. I simply don’t see where our goals come from.
We are playing seven defensive players and three offensive players (one of whom played most of last season in defence and the other spent much of it on the bench).
Whereas Rice and Philips will be “matched up” to Kroos and Gundogan. Over 100 career goals.
I have a feeling it will need lots of Imperial Stout tonight before I convince myself that it’s coming home. I simply don’t see where our goals come from.
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The leaked team is accurate that is the starting eleven
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No DCL. Dear god.
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I said this yesterday, it's bizarre how we convince ourselves we've got the best players and somehow they just never prove themselves. Those two will be right at the heart of their side and would walk into ours. Well, actually maybe not with Southgate in charge.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:23 pmWhereas Rice and Philips will be “matched up” to Kroos and Gundogan. Over 100 career goals.
That fella has found a way to pick an England team without Foden in it, it's just a shame he's not picking the German side too.
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Filled with neither confidence or enthusiasm.
Just hope it's not too turgid an affair and we manage to do a 'Burnley' on them.
Just hope it's not too turgid an affair and we manage to do a 'Burnley' on them.
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And if Kane gets injured? We've no other striker.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:55 pmNot surprised by this tbh. Been fairly average for England, wouldn’t feature even if Kane got injured
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ultra defensive team as expected, let's hope they can sneak the win
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German fans are mystified that Sancho isn't getting a chance for England. They obviously know him better than we do playing in their league, but if they're scared of him, let's get him on!
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Looks like the same 7-2-1 formation Softs***e has played in the other 3 games. I'm not expecting much.
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All the talk a month or two ago was how to fit Foden, Sancho, Mount and Grealish into the team. To be fair to Gareth, he's solved that conundrum.
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The English FA have been saying for decades we don't have enough attacking talent, now we do we have an ultra cautious manager who fears playing them
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Funnily enough I was pondering this last night and was talking to work colleagues. I suggested I wouldn't be surprised if he went 3-5-2/5-3-2. I just expected Chilwell at LB and Grealish.
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Perhaps the logic is bringing on the likes of Foden & Grealish when the game gets stretched and players get tired.
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Clean sheet then we win 3-0 on penalties Trippier scores all 3. Come on !
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Probably in the same way I’m mystified Gundogan isn’t in their starting XI, he’s had a superb season for Citeh.
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That 7-0-3 formation will confuse them
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He’s injured.Cheshireclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:32 pmProbably in the same way I’m mystified Gundogan isn’t in their starting XI, he’s had a superb season for Citeh.
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It's quite clear why he's gone to a back 5, Portugal attacked Germany and got smoked from the wing backs, that isn't the way to play this German side, it's asking to get beat. Keep it tight and hurt them on the break. ******** to your ''plucky losers who gave it a go'' lets grind out a win and advance!
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Reet, time to just get behind the lads…….,.,..
Come on England!!!!!
Come on England!!!!!
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How do you hit them on the break with only 3 attackers? Plus, why do we have to worry about them and not them worry about what we can do?KRBFC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:45 pmIt's quite clear why he's gone to a back 5, Portugal attacked Germany and got smoked from the wing backs, that isn't the way to play this German side, it's asking to get beat. Keep it tight and hurt them on the break. ******** to your ''plucky losers who gave it a go'' lets grind out a win and advance!
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I’ll be happy to eat my words in a couple of hours, but difficult to be overly optimistic about that 11. I don’t think it’ll be 3-3 anyway... I get it, they’ve run the numbers and worked out the defence is key to success in tournament football, but Failure will sting with that lot stuck on the bench
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What do you mean with only 3 attackers? most sides play 433.
because they have world class players ALL over the pitch, especially in midfield. If you don't worry about Kimmich/Kroos/Muller you're in deep deep shite. I know fans want to see us lose and ship a few but say ''at least we we had 4 attacking players on the pitch'', i'd rather we try to win by any means.
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I'm assuming the idea is that it's gonna be 5-4-1 out of possession, then a 3-4-3 in possession with Trippier and Shaw getting forward as auxiliary wingers
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What do you think I mean? We have 7 defensive players.KRBFC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:51 pmWhat do you mean with only 3 attackers? most sides play 433.
because they have world class players ALL over the pitch, especially in midfield. If you don't worry about Kimmich/Kroos/Muller you're in deep deep shite. I know fans want to see us lose and ship a few but say ''at least we we had 4 attacking players on the pitch'', i'd rather we try to win by any means.
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What's the score going to be KRBFC?0 I'll sit back and watch your predictions tonight. You got the chance to learn a lot yesterday, I hope you were paying attention
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I'm intrigued as to who in the England camp leaked the line-up so far in advance?