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Robinson now
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See how Jimmy and Broad get on later tonight
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Robinson gone.... 155-8
no shot whatsoever.....
no shot whatsoever.....
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May still be time for a result the way we are batting
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Is this England or Lowerhouse we are watching?
Some poor , and some horrendous shots being played here.
This is a hard watch.
Some poor , and some horrendous shots being played here.
This is a hard watch.
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27 ducks is the record for England in a calendar year. 22 and counting at the moment is embarrassing. Surely that record is going to be obliterated with this shambles of a team.
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Absolutely abysmal - nothing else to say.
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In 10 overs we have lost 6 wickets for 22 runs. Nothing to add!
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Ah! it must be summertime an England batting collapse, and remember we won the toss and batted.
Root played well, and got a good delivery, as for the rest words fail me.
It might be for the best if the Ashes are cancelled this winter, imagine this bunch facing the Aussie quicks at Perth, or the MCG, indeed any ground in oz for that matter.
Let's just the bowlers yet again can drag us back into the contest, but it's a mighty ask for them against a strong Indian line-up.
Root played well, and got a good delivery, as for the rest words fail me.
It might be for the best if the Ashes are cancelled this winter, imagine this bunch facing the Aussie quicks at Perth, or the MCG, indeed any ground in oz for that matter.
Let's just the bowlers yet again can drag us back into the contest, but it's a mighty ask for them against a strong Indian line-up.
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Bumrah has been unplayable today.
Great bowler.
Let's hope Jimmy is as good.
Great bowler.
Let's hope Jimmy is as good.
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They've forgotten how to play PROPER Cricket.
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He's bowled well. as you'd expect, but there's been some tame dismissals for England.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:00 pmBumrah has been unplayable today.
Great bowler.
Let's hope Jimmy is as good.
And this isn't a one-off it's happening on all different surfaces, against varying attacks around the world with England.
You can set you watch that whenever England bat they'll be 3 down for not very many, and without Ben Stokes to dig us out of holes the cracks are now really showing.
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It's a very weak English batting line up, no doubt.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:06 pmHe's bowled well. as you'd expect, but there's been some tame dismissals for England.
And this isn't a one-off it's happening on all different surfaces, against varying attacks around the world with England.
You can set you watch that whenever England bat they'll be 3 down for not very many, and without Ben Stokes to dig us out of holes the cracks are now really showing.
But I think better batsman than this lot would have nicked off, whereas this lot couldn't get anywhere near them.
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Going to need Jimmy to produce some magic here. Will be encouraged by the amount of swing Bumrah got particularly early on.
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Top to bottom things need changing with the approach to red ball cricket over here. We have one legitimate test match batsman. And beyond Broad and Anderson there really isn’t a standout first name on the team sheet bowler around at the moment.
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Jofra Archer? Chris Woakes?Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:53 pmTop to bottom things need changing with the approach to red ball cricket over here. We have one legitimate test match batsman. And beyond Broad and Anderson there really isn’t a standout first name on the team sheet bowler around at the moment.
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This is a genuine question (I don't know the answer):
Putting Cook aside, which is difficult, who was the last England opening batsman to average 40 in at least Test 30 innings (minimum 30 innings not to skew the stats)?
Putting Cook aside, which is difficult, who was the last England opening batsman to average 40 in at least Test 30 innings (minimum 30 innings not to skew the stats)?
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Must be Strauss
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Too many batters who are nowhere near good enough for test match level cricket. Test Match Special made the point the majority of them have prepared for a 5 test series by playing various forms of 1 day cricket all summer.
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Yep, Bairstow literally smashed 80 odd off 40 odd the other day in the 100!Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:48 pmToo many batters who are nowhere near good enough for test match level cricket. Test Match Special made the point the majority of them have prepared for a 5 test series by playing various forms of 1 day cricket all summer.
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Dismal batting display, and it's not got any better with the ball, India 21-0 at the close, and thus far their openers look disturbingly comfortable.
It might be time to start doing a rain dance, as that seems to be the only thing that will save England from a heavy defeat here.
I do agree with the comments already made above, how on earth are our batsman supposed to properly prepare for a 5 day test match, when they've barely played any meaningful first class cricket in weeks, and no I don't count the white ball formats as meaningful, certainly not as preparation for a test match against one of the leading nations in world cricket right now.
This series was always going to prove difficult for England, but they've hardly helped themselves with the domestic calendar scheduled as it has been.
Perhaps it time to have a completely different squad for the various formats, the only 4 that I'd class as potential test players are, Burns, Sibley, Crawley & naturally Root, however the first 3 are horribly out of form, perhaps a CC game or two beforehand would have helped in that regard, just to allow them to get back into the rhythm of the longer format once more, they've all shown at times that they can score runs at this level, so I wouldn't totally discount them yet, and let's be honest who's waiting in the wings to take their places, Hameed is the only one who springs to mind, and at least he has been scoring runs this season. and Root yet again did well, but once more couldn't convert his 50 into a 100, and his conversion rate compared to the other top players is growing steadily worse by the innings, 60's don't win test matches, however 150+ scores might well do. but he doesn't post enough of them these days.
It might be time to start doing a rain dance, as that seems to be the only thing that will save England from a heavy defeat here.
I do agree with the comments already made above, how on earth are our batsman supposed to properly prepare for a 5 day test match, when they've barely played any meaningful first class cricket in weeks, and no I don't count the white ball formats as meaningful, certainly not as preparation for a test match against one of the leading nations in world cricket right now.
This series was always going to prove difficult for England, but they've hardly helped themselves with the domestic calendar scheduled as it has been.
Perhaps it time to have a completely different squad for the various formats, the only 4 that I'd class as potential test players are, Burns, Sibley, Crawley & naturally Root, however the first 3 are horribly out of form, perhaps a CC game or two beforehand would have helped in that regard, just to allow them to get back into the rhythm of the longer format once more, they've all shown at times that they can score runs at this level, so I wouldn't totally discount them yet, and let's be honest who's waiting in the wings to take their places, Hameed is the only one who springs to mind, and at least he has been scoring runs this season. and Root yet again did well, but once more couldn't convert his 50 into a 100, and his conversion rate compared to the other top players is growing steadily worse by the innings, 60's don't win test matches, however 150+ scores might well do. but he doesn't post enough of them these days.
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Sibley: 35 innings, 2 hundreds and an average of 31tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:03 pmDismal batting display, and it's not got any better with the ball, India 21-0 at the close, and thus far their openers look disturbingly comfortable.
It might be time to start doing a rain dance, as that seems to be the only thing that will save England from a heavy defeat here.
I do agree with the comments already made above, how on earth are our batsman supposed to properly prepare for a 5 day test match, when they've barely played any meaningful first class cricket in weeks, and no I don't count the white ball formats as meaningful, certainly not as preparation for a test match against one of the leading nations in world cricket right now.
This series was always going to prove difficult for England, but they've hardly helped themselves with the domestic calendar scheduled as it has been.
Perhaps it time to have a completely different squad for the various formats, the only 4 that I'd class as potential test players are, Burns, Sibley, Crawley & naturally Root, however the first 3 are horribly out of form, perhaps a CC game or two beforehand would have helped in that regard, just to allow them to get back into the rhythm of the longer format once more, they've all shown at times that they can score runs at this level, so I wouldn't totally discount them yet, and let's be honest who's waiting in the wings to take their places, Hameed is the only one who springs to mind, and at least he has been scoring runs this season. and Root yet again did well, but once more couldn't convert his 50 into a 100, and his conversion rate compared to the other top players is growing steadily worse by the innings, 60's don't win test matches, however 150+ scores might well do. but he doesn't post enough of them these days.
Burns: 46 innings, 3 hundreds and an average of 33
Simply not good enough. Although I agree with your comment on potential replacements.
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Trescothick : 43.79 in 76 tests. Last test: August 2006;
Strauss: 40.91 in 100 tests. Last test: August 2012.
Strauss: 40.91 in 100 tests. Last test: August 2012.
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And this is the problem for England, the cupboard is bare regarding genuine opening batsman these days.TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:25 pmSibley: 35 innings, 2 hundreds and an average of 31
Burns: 46 innings, 3 hundreds and an average of 33
Simply not good enough. Although I agree with your comment on potential replacements.
I hoped young Crawley might be the answer, but after a promising beginning to his test career, he's fallen away badly over the last year or so.
And despite his big double hundred against Pakistan at Southampton, he averages under 30 in his brief test match career, and take that 267 out, and his figures don't look great at all, only 4 half centuries in 25 test innings including today.
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Steady opening hour by the Indian opening pair, 39-0 England keeping it tight, but not much sign of a breakthrough yet.
Rohit & Rahul showing how you should bat in a test match against the new ball, England would do well to take note of their approach.
Rohit & Rahul showing how you should bat in a test match against the new ball, England would do well to take note of their approach.
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50 opening partnership for India, I thought this pitch was a minefield after England batted yesterday, but seemingly not.
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Finally a wicket for England just before lunch, Robinson strikes to remove Rohit for 36, still India's morning by a long way however, 97-1 at lunch, and a mere 86 adrift.
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Archer out of the Ashes & World Cup.
Not the best 27 hours or so
Not the best 27 hours or so
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Woakes flatters to deceive abroad a lot of the time and the fact Archer has been ruled out for the rest of the year sums up what will probably be a very limited Test career.
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Archer injury precludes him from the series, but the idea he's not a 1st name on the team sheet bowler given all available evidence isn't right is it? Woakes's figures in England also make him a first name on the team sheet surely?
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It’s been a dreadful few days.
First Stokes, another abject performance with the bat and then you lose the one bowler who might make a difference in Australia.
I suspect we won’t be too keen on that tour going ahead.
First Stokes, another abject performance with the bat and then you lose the one bowler who might make a difference in Australia.
I suspect we won’t be too keen on that tour going ahead.
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Anderson on a hat-trick ... Kohli out for a Gold
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The worlds greatest ever pace bowler has found some rhythm...... come on.
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And here is that Jimmy magic we needed!
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Think I heard commentary say he is now level with Kumble on 519 wickets. Likely to be 3rd in the all time list on his own by the end of the day.
He never got me out though.
He never got me out though.
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England could have a 1st innings lead here. Wonder what odds that was a couple of balls before lunch
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Jimmy single-handedly hauling England back into the fight, what a gem of a bowler he is.
England need to keep the pressure on now. and make those wickets telling.
That run out will help.
A penny for Rahul's thoughts, or rather a Rupee.
England need to keep the pressure on now. and make those wickets telling.
That run out will help.
A penny for Rahul's thoughts, or rather a Rupee.
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Great fielding by Bairstowe
Jimmy has inspired this comeback
Come on England
Jimmy has inspired this comeback
Come on England
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Sibley drops easy catch off Jimmy
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Woakes for Sibley next test
Woakes scored runs on England
Woakes scored runs on England
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What does Sibley offer? He can’t bat and now we know he can’t catch. Two massive aspects of been a test match cricketer
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That could be costly, the set batsman Rahul as well, you've got to poach them at this level I'm afraid.
I wouldn't be making eye contact with Jimmy if I was Dom Sibley.
I wouldn't be making eye contact with Jimmy if I was Dom Sibley.
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Woakes is injured isn't he.DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:22 pmWoakes for Sibley next test
Woakes scored runs on England
Hameed for Sibley is surely going to happen though.
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Off for bad light. Never mind, the hundred starts in an hour
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That stoppage has came at an ideal time for India, England were well on top, and if that useless idiot Sibley could learn to catch Jimmy would have had another scalp, and a key one at that.
Great hour post lunch for England, and we are still in this match just, however an hour or so of Pant and the picture could rapidly change.
They may not get back on today, rain is forecast for mid-afternoon onwards.
Great hour post lunch for England, and we are still in this match just, however an hour or so of Pant and the picture could rapidly change.
They may not get back on today, rain is forecast for mid-afternoon onwards.
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Currently taking tea, but the expected rain has arrived, and if the forecast is accurate it's not going anywhere fast.
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I think we're in for a very low scoring series. I can't see their batsmen making big scores in English conditions, and we all know the problems with England's battling line up.