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Attendances

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:47 pm

Looked very low today on tv. Does anyone know the figure ? Looked to be a lot of empty seats last time I was on too. Doubt it will improve for Leicester. Must be a concern for the Chairman.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Whitgord » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:53 pm

Not been able to find the gate figure anywhere as yet. There will certainly be more on against Leicester but may only be 16000 or so given our abject performances recently and the Covid effect.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:54 pm

Let's be fair it will DEFINITELY improve dramatically for Leicester, but your point about today is valid. Utterly awful attendance.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Whitgord » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:55 pm

Getting away from the ground was so easy. Just like in the old days.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Stayingup » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:59 pm

Pathetic attendance. Huddersfield fans made any noise there was. You just wonder if some of our fans deserve a team in the Premier League - for now. Have to admit we were dreadful today but we had our best three players absent and Wood was missed after half time.

Does anyone know if Huddersfield played a weakened team? If not our first eleven is much better than them.

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Re: Attendances

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:03 pm

The league attendances have been very low this season, nothing like the numbers we'd become used to. And that's not because of the results because the opening day attendance against Brighton was the second lowest ever in the Premier League.

No idea how many on today but it will have been boosted by the Huddersfield fans.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:04 pm

Very sparse home attendance but fair play to Huddersfield Town fans, they packed their side of the Cricket Field stand.

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Re: Attendances

Post by claretburns » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:06 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:59 pm
Does anyone know if Huddersfield played a weakened team? If not our first eleven is much better than them.
Huddersfield made 7 changes to the team who played their last league game.
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Re: Attendances

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:08 pm

I actually started counting the crowd in the second half as I was utterly bored, but refused to take my shoes and socks off when it got to 11. My "guess the gate" is 19 (home) and 2,000 away.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Myk » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:22 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:54 pm
Let's be fair it will DEFINITELY improve dramatically for Leicester, but your point about today is valid. Utterly awful attendance.
I heard the Leicester game is going to be called off because of covid ? Or have I Heard it wrong ?

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Re: Attendances

Post by Johma » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:23 pm

Either way newcastle was rocking
And they lost with a full strength side to a lesser team without scoring

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Re: Attendances

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:28 pm

Myk wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:22 pm
I heard the Leicester game is going to be called off because of covid ? Or have I Heard it wrong ?
Well yes and no. The Leicester game is highly likely to be called off and covid will be blamed, BUT Leicester have an ever lengthening injury list (including Evans and Vardy) and 4 players at the ACN, so they look set to be the latest opponent to play the "pandemic" card!
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Re: Attendances

Post by todclaret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:40 pm

7,654 at the Turf today according to the match report on the BBC website

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Re: Attendances

Post by claretblue » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:45 pm

todclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:40 pm
7,654 at the Turf today according to the match report on the BBC website
7654 at Turf Moor

51395 at St James Park (sell-out)

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Re: Attendances

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:51 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:45 pm
7654 at Turf Moor

51395 at St James Park (sell-out)
To be fair, Newcastle are making signings and at least that offers fans some hope.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:58 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:51 pm
To be fair, Newcastle are making signings and at least that offers fans some hope.
And a huge city 😂

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Re: Attendances

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:01 pm

6.3% of the Newcastle population at St James Park

8.6% of the Burnley population at Turf Moor
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Re: Attendances

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm

Home support down by thousands in the league, supporters clubs who used to run full coaches struggling to fill one, very worrying times, especially from a financial viewpoint.

I've said on many occasions though, even before Covid there were many people around me who weren't planning on renewing due to the lack of entertainment and excitement. This seems to have been replicated throughout the stadium, hence the 3-4 thousand missing people we now have..

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Re: Attendances

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:08 pm

attendances are down because the football on show from us is most weeks uninspiring. People go to football for a number of reasons, many go as an escape from the mundane...........and that's where the issue is
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Re: Attendances

Post by DCWat » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:08 pm
attendances are down because the football on show from us is most weeks uninspiring. People go to football for a number of reasons, many go as an escape from the mundane...........and that's where the issue is
People expect a level of entertainment. Whilst I’ll be renewing come what may, I can certainly appreciate why some won’t.

I love going to watch Burnley but it has felt something of a chore on a good number of occasions.
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Re: Attendances

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:08 pm
attendances are down because the football on show from us is most weeks uninspiring. People go to football for a number of reasons, many go as an escape from the mundane...........and that's where the issue is
Agree Vegas. People put up with our style while it’s getting results, but now it’s not they are voting with their feet.

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Re: Attendances

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:18 pm

Think it’s pretty clear how bored some are with the style of football, lack of excitement and attitude towards cups. A mate of mine who has a season ticket said he couldn’t be paid to go on today.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:25 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
Home support down by thousands in the league, supporters clubs who used to run full coaches struggling to fill one, very worrying times, especially from a financial viewpoint.
Certainly not the case with Accy Clarets - Newcastle 3 coaches + minibus / Villa 3 coaches / Man Utd 4 coaches + minibus / Leeds 4 coaches + 2 minibuses.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:29 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:16 pm
People expect a level of entertainment. Whilst I’ll be renewing come what may, I can certainly appreciate why some won’t.

I love going to watch Burnley but it has felt something of a chore on a good number of occasions.
Hit the nail on the head perfectly. Football is a stress relief for me, away from a hard job.

Many many games now, I've found myself stood there thinking why the hell have I rushed here straight from work for this.

As a claret for over 40 years I don't expect to win every week, but I expect entertainment. Apart from a small handful of games over the last few seasons there just hasn't been any, it's either been totally one sided games for the opposition, or it's been us playing awful long ball football trying to scrape a 1 0..
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Re: Attendances

Post by Stayingup » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:30 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:01 pm
6.3% of the Newcastle population at St James Park

8.6% of the Burnley population at Turf Moor
Yes but what %age of Burnleys attendance are from Burnley? Obviously cant say but its quite a few.

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Re: Attendances

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:34 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:30 pm
Yes but what %age of Burnleys attendance are from Burnley? Obviously cant say but its quite a few.
It's a fair point, and only way to tell would be to find the Huddersfield attendance and deduct it from the overall.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Tread Warily » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:37 pm

Johma wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:23 pm
Either way newcastle was rocking
And they lost with a full strength side to a lesser team without scoring
They did score, 3 minutes from the end. It was disallowed for off-side. :roll:

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Re: Attendances

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:41 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:25 pm
Certainly not the case with Accy Clarets - Newcastle 3 coaches + minibus / Villa 3 coaches / Man Utd 4 coaches + minibus / Leeds 4 coaches + 2 minibuses.
That's great for Accy Clarets, but those games listed are the most popular away games and were very important fixtures in the first half of the season.

We didn't even take the full allocation at OT, as we don't now at the vast majority of away games.

We both know away support is dropping along with the home support.
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Re: Attendances

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:42 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:25 pm
Certainly not the case with Accy Clarets - Newcastle 3 coaches + minibus / Villa 3 coaches / Man Utd 4 coaches + minibus / Leeds 4 coaches + 2 minibuses.
We didn’t even sell out the full allocation for Man Utd. It’s 40 mins away.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:43 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:42 pm
We didn’t even sell out the full allocation for Man Utd. It’s 40 mins away.
Incorrect. We sold out the allocation which we took, which was about 500 short of the allocation which we could have taken.

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Re: Attendances

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:47 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:08 pm
attendances are down because the football on show from us is most weeks uninspiring. People go to football for a number of reasons, many go as an escape from the mundane...........and that's where the issue is
It's a good point, football is meant to lift us from the mundane. If you play in the manner that we do without getting results it can be a bl00dy hard watch.

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Re: Attendances

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:48 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:43 pm
Incorrect. We sold out the allocation which we took, which was about 500 short of the allocation which we could have taken.
Which is what I said…
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Re: Attendances

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:51 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:41 pm
That's great for Accy Clarets, but those games listed are the most popular away games and were very important fixtures in the first half of the season.

We didn't even take the full allocation at OT, as we don't now at the vast majority of away games.

We both know away support is dropping along with the home support.
Newcastle away is the first time I have seen our away supporters turn against the team. There were loads of supporters moaning and groaning. Not seen that before .

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Re: Attendances

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:56 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:48 pm
Which is what I said…
No it's not. You said that we couldn't even sell out the full allocation, which would have been impossible seeing as we didn't take it! We could only sell out the allocation which we took.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:00 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:51 pm
Newcastle away is the first time I have seen our away supporters turn against the team. There were loads of supporters moaning and groaning. Not seen that before .
Yes. Probably down to the magnitude of the game and the way we went down without barely a fight apart from a few hoofs into the box late on..

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Re: Attendances

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:02 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:00 pm
Yes. Probably down to the magnitude of the game and the way we went down without barely a fight apart from a few hoofs into the box late on..
Going into games trying not to lose isn't enough now.
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Post by Dy1geo » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:03 pm

My mate who is a big Wigan fan said eventually you will get bored of the Premier League and scraping enough points to survive and realise you are only there to make up the numbers. He said a least they had an FA Cup win to remember but he has enjoyed the last few years more the ups and downs and I am feeling the same.

There was the excitement when we were in the lower leagues drawing a big team away in a cup now cups are viewed by many as an hindrance to staying in the league.

As for the football I can see why we have to play the way we do with the players we have at our disposal to get the results but that doesn’t make it any more exciting. I know a few who only renewed because they had “Pre Paid” this year’s ST and are not renewing next year.

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Re: Attendances

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm

Dy1geo wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:03 pm
My mate who is a big Wigan fan said eventually you will get bored of the Premier League and scraping enough points to survive and realise you are only there to make up the numbers. He said a least they had an FA Cup win to remember but he has enjoyed the last few years more the ups and downs and I am feeling the same.

There was the excitement when we were in the lower leagues drawing a big team away in a cup now cups are viewed by many as an hindrance to staying in the league.

As for the football I can see why we have to play the way we do with the players we have at our disposal to get the results but that doesn’t make it any more exciting. I know a few who only renewed because they had “Pre Paid” this year’s ST and are not renewing next year.
The issue with that type of thinking has to surely be "what's the pont". As in, the good times yield going into the Premier League. With success comes promotion, that's what makes things fun and exciting.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:41 pm
That's great for Accy Clarets, but those games listed are the most popular away games and were very important fixtures in the first half of the season.

We didn't even take the full allocation at OT, as we don't now at the vast majority of away games.

We both know away support is dropping along with the home support.
It’ll be interesting for the rest of the season to see away attendances considering we barely play anywhere north of the M25 for the rest of the season.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:07 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm
The issue with that type of thinking has to surely be "what's the pont". As in, the good times yield going into the Premier League. With success comes promotion, that's what makes things fun and exciting.
That’s the big point with people saying they miss the championship. Get relegated then everything is all about getting back in to the PL. We’re the new Stoke.

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Re: Attendances

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:11 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:07 pm
That’s the big point with people saying they miss the championship. Get relegated then everything is all about getting back in to the PL. We’re the new Stoke.
Quite literally too.

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Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:14 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm
It’ll be interesting for the rest of the season to see away attendances considering we barely play anywhere north of the M25 for the rest of the season.
The majority attending will be Southern based Clarets.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Dy1geo » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:17 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm
The issue with that type of thinking has to surely be "what's the pont". As in, the good times yield going into the Premier League. With success comes promotion, that's what makes things fun and exciting.
The difference to me between us now in the Prem and if we are in the Championship is what we have to attain to have a successful season, most people will agree that success for us in the Prem is 17th and above and to achieve that you need around 35pts so 9 wins and 8 draws can do it so we are aiming to win around 1/4 of our games. Whereas in the Championship a successful season would be playoffs or promotion and to get in the playoffs you need on average 70 odd points meaning around 23 wins and a sprinkling of draws so we would have to win around 1/2 of our matches so to me I would rather watch a team go out for the win rather than avoid defeat.

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Re: Attendances

Post by Leisure » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:17 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:51 pm

There were loads of supporters moaning and groaning.
That seems to be the norm for quite a few on the messageboard!

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Re: Attendances

Post by BigChaCha » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:26 pm

We have punched well above our weight per capita for attendances and still do. That is very hard to maintain over a long period of time. Our fanbase has been miraculous with the percentage of the town going to matches if you think about it but life moves on and there are a lot more things you could be doing now and especially when the football that is on offer, even when we are doing well, is mind-numbing!

Burnley fans these days, are also like the 'prawn sandwich brigade' (all be it Aldi or Lidl prawns) and have lost something. They have become comfortable! 30 years ago, the fans would have made SD's life a misery and drove him out by now... We don't have anywhere near the same passion we had, even from 15, 20 years ago.
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Re: Attendances

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:47 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:06 pm
It’ll be interesting for the rest of the season to see away attendances considering we barely play anywhere north of the M25 for the rest of the season.
We were talking about this on the way home from Leeds last week. Will be some very small followings.

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Re: Attendances

Post by expoultryboy » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:37 pm

We'll sell out Brentford

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Re: Attendances

Post by Johma » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:42 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:37 pm
We'll sell out Brentford
Only due to beating them alrady and a newish ground

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Re: Attendances

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:58 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:28 pm
Well yes and no. The Leicester game is highly likely to be called off and covid will be blamed, BUT Leicester have an ever lengthening injury list (including Evans and Vardy) and 4 players at the ACN, so they look set to be the latest opponent to play the "pandemic" card!
As Vardy and Evans are long term as is the African tournament how can they play the Covid card for so long ?

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Re: Attendances

Post by Stayingup » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:00 pm

Today the team was every inch league 1. But what can't help is no vocal home support and a vociferous away support and thats how it was.
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