The FA Cup Final

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:42 am

I’m not too bothered about who wins but why is it being played whilst the season is still up and running? I’m sure it was always played the weekend after the season finished.
Is it due to the winter break prolonging the season perhaps?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:44 am

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tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:47 am

karatekid wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 9:42 am
I’m not too bothered about who wins but why is it being played whilst the season is still up and running? I’m sure it was always played the weekend after the season finished.
Is it due to the winter break prolonging the season perhaps?

It's been played while the PL season is ongoing for several seasons now, and I totally agree yet another showpiece event that's been sadly ruined as a spectacle, for me it always marked the end of the season and was in it's day the big match of the year, now it's almost seen as just a nuisance to some teams.

Like you I'm not fussed who wins, just hope there's plenty of goals and excitement to enjoy.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:56 am

karatekid wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 9:42 am
I’m not too bothered about who wins but why is it being played whilst the season is still up and running? I’m sure it was always played the weekend after the season finished.
Is it due to the winter break prolonging the season perhaps?

It was always the last domestic game of the season and always played on the first Saturday in May.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am

BBC versus ITV?
Both are showing the cup final, which is the best and why?

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat May 14, 2022 9:59 am

I used to love Cup Final day as a kid. It was exciting as it was usually the only live domestic game you watch on TV. The build up to the game at the clubs hotels, following the team buses to Wembley and all the punditry was a great watch whilst munching on a quarter of sherbet lemons and a can of Fanta orange.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat May 14, 2022 10:02 am

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am
BBC versus ITV?
Both are showing the cup final, which is the best and why?

Presume Sam Matterface is commentating for the itv. Need I say more?

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat May 14, 2022 10:43 am

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am
BBC versus ITV?
Both are showing the cup final, which is the best and why?

David Coleman v Hugh John's. Cup Final day was very special even if the game, invariably, wasn't. Who remembers the whole game being shown again the following day at Three o'clock in the afternoon?
I can still name team line ups from games played decades ago but I couldn't tell you which teams played in the final last year.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat May 14, 2022 10:53 am

I loved the build-up to the CF, they used to have a "Great Cup Finals of the Past" section i think (years ago) you could phone up the BBC and ask for a particular goal to be shown. Great day in the season.

Now it seems to be a vehicle (on ITV at least) to pack in as many ads for junk food, delivery services and bookies.
The great god money again.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat May 14, 2022 10:57 am

The FA cup final just isn't that special anymore.
2013, Wigan won it and Portsmouth before them in 2008
Aside from Leicester last year, it's generally one of the "big" clubs who win it, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Utd or Liverpool.
Everton and Spurs have both won it once since 1990.

The bigger teams tend to blood their younger players in it until it gets closer to the final and then they take it more seriously.

The early rounds tend to be more interesting, especially if a lower/non league team goes on a bit of a (giant killing) run.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Sat May 14, 2022 10:58 am

Doesn’t help that it’s the same handful of teams every year in the final. Couldn’t care less who wins today.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:12 pm

Used to be massive family occasion, all round at someone's house a Jacob's join, grown ups with a few beers etc almost as revered as birthdays and Christmas. Now it is just another bland game.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:21 pm

As others have said, it use to be a big occasion, regardless of which teams were in the final or who you supported.
It was THE game to end the season, the week after the final league game, with a 3pm kick off

Full day of coverage on tv, breakfast with the teams at their hotel, the coach journey to Wembley.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:24 pm

semis at wembley is another method of dilution.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:27 pm

yTib wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 12:24 pm
semis at wembley is another method of dilution.

Yes far too many fixtures at Wembley nowadays, it used to be a once in a career event to play there for many players, now the elite guys can be appearing there 2 or 3 times a season.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:31 pm

Did the FA Cup become less special or did you just become old, bored and jaded?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:40 pm

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 12:31 pm
Did the FA Cup become less special or did you just become old, bored and jaded?

Maybe a bit of both, but being able to watch a live game on the tv was special then.
You use to go back into school on the Monday and talk about the game and maybe recreate moments from it

Now, there’s a game being shown everyday of the week

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat May 14, 2022 12:48 pm

People who have no interest in watching the FA Cup final moaning about the FA Cup final becoming less special is akin to those people who know longer spend their time in pubs moaning about old pubs closing down.

Times change and we now get wall to wall live sports coverage which means people can pick and choose the events that interests them. If you think its worth going back to the 80's where Grandstand was about the peak of regular sporting entertainment just so one game a year will be more special then I think you take for granted how good we have it compared to back then.

Plenty on here were fully supportive of Dyche resting players for a 5th round FA Cup match to play Crystal Palace away and I bet a fair lot of those fans will be the ones who whinge once a year about cup final day

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:07 pm

More than 'moaning' about Cup Final Day I think it's just a case of being whimsical about those of the past. A live game almost every day of the week will suit some people fine; others view the 'once a year' live match with great fondness. It was definitely an annual occasion where I recall not understanding why anybody would want to do anything else other than be in their house(or a friends) watching the Cup Final. There was a real feeling of emptiness after the game as the realisation sunk in that football was off the menu for the next three and a half months. Times have changed obviously but unless your club is involved in the final there appears to be a more casual attitude to it.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:08 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 12:48 pm
People who have no interest in watching the FA Cup final moaning about the FA Cup final becoming less special is akin to those people who know longer spend their time in pubs moaning about old pubs closing down.

people who have no interest in people who have no interest in watching the FA Cup final moaning about the FA Cup final becoming less special is akin to those people who have no interest in those people who no* longer spend their time in pubs moaning about old pubs closing down.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:17 pm

yTib wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 1:08 pm
people who have no interest in people who have no interest in watching the FA Cup final moaning about the FA Cup final becoming less special is akin to those people who have no interest in those people who no* longer spend their time in pubs moaning about old pubs closing down.

I have an interest in this kind of stupid thinking hence why I posted about it, its one of the entertaining elements of this messageboard in general

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat May 14, 2022 2:30 pm

I didn't even know it was today

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Sat May 14, 2022 2:53 pm

Chelsea v Liverpool in the FA Cup final. Now let me think... Which one can I get behind? Aye, neither of them.

alboclaret · Post by **alboclaret** » Sat May 14, 2022 2:55 pm

The CL Final had now replaced it as the season final.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:00 pm

The playoff finals are more exciting, especially the Championship one, given and the massive prize for the winner.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:03 pm

alboclaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 2:55 pm
The CL Final had now replaced it as the season final.

Yes but even that's generally involving the same few sides now.

alboclaret · Post by **alboclaret** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:45 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 3:03 pm
Yes but even that's generally involving the same few sides now.

That's what I mean

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:50 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 1:17 pm
I have an interest in this kind of stupid thinking hence why I posted about it, its one of the entertaining elements of this messageboard in general

Tbf DA , for someone who was apparently born around 47 yrs of age , I seriously doubt you’d have childhood memories of what a huge occasion FA cup day was .

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat May 14, 2022 3:54 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 3:03 pm
Yes but even that's generally involving the same few sides now.

I heard this stat the other day and could hardly believe it but its true that the Championship play-off final has never once been competed by the same two teams two years running since its conception

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:24 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 3:54 pm
I heard this stat the other day and could hardly believe it but its true that the Championship play-off final has never once been competed by the same two teams two years running since its conception

Pathetic effort. F. Must try harder

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:24 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 3:54 pm
I heard this stat the other day and could hardly believe it but its true that the Championship play-off final has never once been competed by the same two teams two years running since its conception

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:39 pm

And another peeve - why are Chelsea in their change kit?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:42 pm

Why are they booing the national anthem?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:44 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 4:42 pm
Why are they booing the national anthem?

Liverpool fans did it before the League Cup Final too.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:46 pm

Victim FC really are a special breed.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:53 pm

Part of the whole Liverpool/Chelsea rivalry is the notion that all Liverpool fans are working-class socialists and all Chelsea fans are Kensington Tories, so I assume it’s to stoke that more than anything. Or maybe they’re just trying to draw attention to what a crap song it is. Who knows?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:55 pm

How have Liverpool not scored, they're swarming all over Chelsea, but can't find the finishing touch. They may live to regret these misses.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:56 pm

Beagle wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 4:53 pm
Part of the whole Liverpool/Chelsea rivalry is the notion that all Liverpool fans are working-class socialists and all Chelsea fans are Kensington Tories, so I assume it’s to stoke that more than anything. Or maybe they’re just trying to draw attention to what a crap song it is. Who knows?

I agree it's a dirge of a tune, and I'm also a republican, but I would never boo any country's national anthem, let alone our own

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:06 pm

Luverpool often play the long ball to Salah. Such a cultured pass when they do it. Us??? Hoofball.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:08 pm

why kick-off at 4:45pm?
I thought it was to prevent overlap with play-off semi final but they still clash!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:14 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 4:42 pm
Why are they booing the national anthem?

Half of the Liverpool fans are Irish at the game

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:18 pm

Tribesmen wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 5:14 pm
Half of the Liverpool fans are Irish at the game

Isn't Liverpool the capital of Ireland? Booing the anthem shows the lack of intelligence of a portion of football fans.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:21 pm

Looking like Tuchel was born with that baseball cap on. Klopp is similar.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:21 pm

Salah forced off injured, a big blow for Pool.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:33 pm

The f a cup is still a great competition for non-league and lower league teams.
It's only the spoilt entitled types that don't look forward to it unless their manager is going to play the b-team.
There are so many games to pick from to watch nowadays. Sheffield utd v forest was today's highlight. Chelsea v Liverpool (whatever the competition) ranks below eurovision. At least someone I like might win that.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:36 pm

0-0 at the break, but I'm not sure how given the amount of chances for both sides, could be ET and pens again as the LC final was.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:36 pm

Classy Liverpool fans, as usual

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:52 pm

if Liverpool play like this against Madrid they will get spanked

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat May 14, 2022 5:52 pm
if Liverpool play like this against Madrid they will get spanked

The form Madrid are in they may get spanked anyway.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:55 pm

Danny Ings running the line in the FA Cup final

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