Villa a must win?
-
- Posts: 1280
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:39 pm
- Been Liked: 333 times
- Has Liked: 211 times
Re: Villa a must win?
We need Mike Dean on Sunday, our lucky charm. But no doubt we will get Tierney, Moss, or worse, Taylor.
Re: Villa a must win?
There was an injury that ran from 86 to 89, for a start.Tread Warily wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 5:05 pmWhere did the extra 6 mins come from, at the Leeds match?
-
- Posts: 4075
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:40 pm
- Been Liked: 1508 times
- Has Liked: 581 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Leeds will beat Brighton - didn’t happen. Spurs will batter us - didn’t happen. Brentford will be on the bench and Everton have got this in the bag - didn’t happen.
Too many on here just willing the worst. Brentford will want to finish top 10 and there’s some bad blood between Brentford and Leeds when Leeds were promoted ahead of them a couple of years back. It’s still in our hands regardless - the players are showing some bottle, it’s about time some of our support did.
Too many on here just willing the worst. Brentford will want to finish top 10 and there’s some bad blood between Brentford and Leeds when Leeds were promoted ahead of them a couple of years back. It’s still in our hands regardless - the players are showing some bottle, it’s about time some of our support did.
This user liked this post: KateR
Re: Villa a must win?
Doesn't matter, they scored 2 minutes into it.Tread Warily wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 5:05 pmWhere did the extra 6 mins come from, at the Leeds match?
Re: Villa a must win?
We need to start well at Villa, on the front foot from the whistle. Too many times this season we've started poorly in the first 15-20 minutes of the game. We got out of jail at Watford but Villa wont just roll over if they go up 1-0.
-
- Posts: 30717
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11060 times
- Has Liked: 5663 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Villa a must win?
exactly this but that'll be tough away at Villa
Re: Villa a must win?
We can't afford to go 1-0 down early on, we don't score enough goals to climb that mountain with any regularity. Front foot, out work and out fight them, make it a battle of which team wants it more. At the home game, we were decent first half just another slow start. We had a really poor opening 10-15 minutes against Soton and Wolves too, it's a theme this season.
-
- Posts: 30717
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11060 times
- Has Liked: 5663 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Villa a must win?
this and last season have been woeful for the most part, slow starts and lack of goals ! I'm hoping Gerrard has such a desire to sign Philips from Leeds (they'll need to drop for that to happen) that he picks a bunch of kids !KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:00 amWe can't afford to go 1-0 down early on, we don't score enough goals to climb that mountain with any regularity. Front foot, out work and out fight them, make it a battle of which team wants it more. At the home game, we were decent first half just another slow start. We had a really poor opening 10-15 minutes against Soton and Wolves too, it's a theme this season.
This user liked this post: mybloodisclaret
Re: Villa a must win?
It's now vary simple. We require a maximum of 4 points from the next 2 games, and it won't matter what anyone else does. So Villa is not a must win, its more a must not lose. If Leeds lose at Brentford, that will be enough because of our superior GD.
This user liked this post: tiger76
-
- Posts: 6696
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:13 pm
- Been Liked: 1705 times
- Has Liked: 791 times
Re: Villa a must win?
A win at Villa would put huge pressure on Leeds, knowing they have to win at Brentford to have any chance
Re: Villa a must win?
It’s a must not lose but a win would really put us in a position I can’t see us messing up from.
This user liked this post: tiger76
-
- Posts: 810
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:03 am
- Been Liked: 337 times
- Has Liked: 93 times
- Location: Burnley
Re: Villa a must win?
Still one from three in my opinion. Everton, though favourites to stay up, could go down if there is a twist on the final day. A lot rides on Thursday night’s games, where Everton need something against Palace, and we need something against Villa.
-
- Posts: 7179
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm
- Been Liked: 3606 times
- Has Liked: 1033 times
- Location: Chesterfield
Re: Villa a must win?
One win needed, I think Leeds will draw at Brentford. Get a win and we stay up. We have two bites at the cherry.
-
- Posts: 694
- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:08 am
- Been Liked: 295 times
- Has Liked: 60 times
Re: Villa a must win?
I seriously wish I had sorted a ticket to Villa, will be electric....and tense.
I think we will do it.
I think we will do it.
Re: Villa a must win?
The strange thing is that we could win at Villa but still go down, or we could lose and still stay up. Also if Everton don't win on Thursday they are bang in it.
Villa 0 -1 Burnley
Burnley 0 -1 Newcastle
Brentford 0-1 Leeds
RELEGATED
Villa 1-0 Burnley
Burnley 1-0 Newcastle
Brentford 1-0 Leeds
SURVIVED
Villa 0 -1 Burnley
Burnley 0 -1 Newcastle
Brentford 0-1 Leeds
RELEGATED
Villa 1-0 Burnley
Burnley 1-0 Newcastle
Brentford 1-0 Leeds
SURVIVED
-
- Posts: 4406
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:13 am
- Been Liked: 1259 times
- Has Liked: 1368 times
Re: Villa a must win?
It is going to be a last match shoot out between three teams if Everton don't win on Thursday with two of the teams playing away against good opposition.
The weekend gone has only guaranteed one thing - we are no longer able to stay up without getting a point. That safety blanket has gone
Re: Villa a must win?
Watford won at Villa this season (recent ish) btw. And they are crap.
Re: Villa a must win?
That's not correct if Everton were to only draw one of their remaining games against Palace and Arsenal.
Re: Villa a must win?
good point, we'd stay up on goal difference
-
- Posts: 5378
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1655 times
- Has Liked: 404 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Villa are 15th in the home table and 10th in the away table. They concede more at home than away. Implies they prefer to work on the break a la Spurs. I can see five at the back again.
The interesting thing in the remaining games will be how many ex Clarets as players or manager have a part to play. Ings, Trippier, Wood, Keane, Howe. Not just minor ex Clarets either, some of our biggest names in recent years.
Of the five, I expect Trippier would be heartbroken if we drop, but he is such a pro he’d do it anyway then struggle with his emotions afterwards. Eddie being an Everton fan is another dynamic.
One way or the other, there will be tears in the next seven days.
The interesting thing in the remaining games will be how many ex Clarets as players or manager have a part to play. Ings, Trippier, Wood, Keane, Howe. Not just minor ex Clarets either, some of our biggest names in recent years.
Of the five, I expect Trippier would be heartbroken if we drop, but he is such a pro he’d do it anyway then struggle with his emotions afterwards. Eddie being an Everton fan is another dynamic.
One way or the other, there will be tears in the next seven days.
-
- Posts: 567
- Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:35 pm
- Been Liked: 84 times
- Has Liked: 249 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Quite frankly we will need to win both games.
Re: Villa a must win?
Tierney reffing the game.
Re: Villa a must win?
no we don't
4 points will keep us above Leeds no matter what they do
This user liked this post: KateR
-
- Posts: 7179
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm
- Been Liked: 3606 times
- Has Liked: 1033 times
- Location: Chesterfield
Re: Villa a must win?
How do you work that out? Leeds could beat Brentford 10-0 and we’d still stay up by only taking 4 points.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Villa a must win?
Not a must win, although a win would be great, but definitely a must not lose, as a defeat takes it out of our control, and we'll then be relying on Leeds not winning at Brentford.
Villa can blow hot and cold, at TM they were hot, and crucially clinical when their chances came, in a way we were not.
One other factor to note is we have a decent record at Villa in recent years, and the carrot of victory is huge for us, a win and we're almost over the line.
Villa can blow hot and cold, at TM they were hot, and crucially clinical when their chances came, in a way we were not.
One other factor to note is we have a decent record at Villa in recent years, and the carrot of victory is huge for us, a win and we're almost over the line.
-
- Posts: 3962
- Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1240 times
- Has Liked: 491 times
Re: Villa a must win?
The Villa home game definitely could have turned in our favour had Dwight scored when he should have. We have since been weakened with injuries but that didn’t stop one of our better away performances of the season yesterday. For me it is all about getting the shape of the team right for a different threat to the one caused by Spurs who are a much better team. That said when Spurs played at Villa park they could have been 3 down at half time. We need to hope Ings and co have a poor game tbh but with the grit and determination shown at Spurs I believe we will get at least a point.
-
- Posts: 6696
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:13 pm
- Been Liked: 1705 times
- Has Liked: 791 times
Re: Villa a must win?
For me the grittiness of yesterday has been there for a few weeks now. What scares me and it will be the key factor in whether we survive or not is converting chances.With Rodriguez missing as well as Vydra (and I appreciate neither have scored many this season), you just wonder who will score.Plus Mee & Tarks were always good for a goal. I think its 15 months since Barnes scored and Cornet seems to freeze when he gets close to goal .Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:04 pmThe Villa home game definitely could have turned in our favour had Dwight scored when he should have. We have since been weakened with injuries but that didn’t stop one of our better away performances of the season yesterday. For me it is all about getting the shape of the team right for a different threat to the one caused by Spurs who are a much better team. That said when Spurs played at Villa park they could have been 3 down at half time. We need to hope Ings and co have a poor game tbh but with the grit and determination shown at Spurs I believe we will get at least a point.
-
- Posts: 5378
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1655 times
- Has Liked: 404 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Let’s be honest we are all papping it this week but it makes me feel better seeing what is written on other forums. Leeds are the funniest - constant worrying about Gerrard saving his side for City to help Liverpool, and worried about Howe doing us a favour. Then they lurch into optimism that Taylor and Wood will have Leeds loyalties when it matters. Everton fans seem a bit more relaxed, they know they are nearly there.
I’m a bit more pragmatic - nobody ever does us any favours, we’ll have to do it all by ourselves. As it should be.
I’m a bit more pragmatic - nobody ever does us any favours, we’ll have to do it all by ourselves. As it should be.
-
- Posts: 696
- Joined: Tue May 10, 2022 1:09 pm
- Been Liked: 163 times
- Has Liked: 143 times
Re: Villa a must win?
I'm more hopeful of getting a result after yesterday's performance. Villa fans will want Leeds down so they can get Phillips hope Gerrard feels the same way
-
- Posts: 3962
- Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1240 times
- Has Liked: 491 times
Re: Villa a must win?
The defenders and midfielders have been chipping in here and there and I suspect the same will be needed. For me Collins is more of a threat than either Mee or Tarky on set pieces. A good old fashioned OG will do the trick if that’s what it takes. A clean sheet at Villa is like gold dust.
-
- Posts: 4075
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:40 pm
- Been Liked: 1508 times
- Has Liked: 581 times
Re: Villa a must win?
They’ve certainly got some nerve about Taylor and Wood considering the absolute vitriol that was sent their way by Leeds fans when they left the club.CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:34 pmLet’s be honest we are all papping it this week but it makes me feel better seeing what is written on other forums. Leeds are the funniest - constant worrying about Gerrard saving his side for City to help Liverpool, and worried about Howe doing us a favour. Then they lurch into optimism that Taylor and Wood will have Leeds loyalties when it matters. Everton fans seem a bit more relaxed, they know they are nearly there.
I’m a bit more pragmatic - nobody ever does us any favours, we’ll have to do it all by ourselves. As it should be.
-
- Posts: 1847
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm
- Been Liked: 562 times
- Has Liked: 1412 times
-
- Posts: 23343
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
- Been Liked: 8058 times
- Has Liked: 4714 times
- Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing
Re: Villa a must win?
tbf, if they beat Arsenal 25-0, they deserve to stay up
-
- Posts: 696
- Joined: Tue May 10, 2022 1:09 pm
- Been Liked: 163 times
- Has Liked: 143 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Imagine if they won 25-0 and still went down
Re: Villa a must win?
Bit tricky beating Arsenal as they play Brentford
Re: Villa a must win?
btw,
Here is why there is so much animosity between Brentford and Leeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWe4LyReRw
Here is why there is so much animosity between Brentford and Leeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWe4LyReRw
-
- Posts: 1847
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm
- Been Liked: 562 times
- Has Liked: 1412 times
-
- Posts: 2139
- Joined: Sat May 09, 2020 2:06 pm
- Been Liked: 352 times
- Has Liked: 294 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Hadn't seen that before. Should make for an interesting day on Sunday.Spijed wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:23 pmbtw,
Here is why there is so much animosity between Brentford and Leeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWe4LyReRw
Re: Villa a must win?
Yeah, Ivan Toney tweeted this video last week too with the caption ‘hmmmm’.Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 11:19 amHadn't seen that before. Should make for an interesting day on Sunday.
-
- Posts: 2599
- Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 6:22 pm
- Been Liked: 695 times
- Has Liked: 362 times
Re: Villa a must win?
Anything but a win for both us and Palace on Thursday and I'm gonna be a nervous wreck until Sunday. Must win? Absolutely as far as my health is concerned
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Villa a must win?
Even a Burnley win and an Everton defeat doesn't guarantee our survival, as come Sunday we could lose and Everton and Leeds both win, unlikely yes but by no means impossible, shame about Leeds ragging that late goal, as otherwise we'd know 3 points at Villa would have seen us safe, now whatever happens on Thursday we'll have to endure an agonising afternoon to see what our fate ultimately is.Roosterbooster wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 5:03 pmAnything but a win for both us and Palace on Thursday and I'm gonna be a nervous wreck until Sunday. Must win? Absolutely as far as my health is concerned