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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:36 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 pm
It looked fairly legit. But I guess on second look it’s not the best. My opinion is any news is better than none, at least it gives a little hope
To be fair anything on Twitter that says Kompany won’t be our next manager will probably look ‘fairly legit’ to you!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by 7decades » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:11 am

VINCENT KOMANY

we've taken the "P" out of him

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:13 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:36 am
To be fair anything on Twitter that says Kompany won’t be our next manager will probably look ‘fairly legit’ to you!
Well that’s strange because this one said he would be our next manager. Try harder next time

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by scouseclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:26 am

This article does make me wonder whether VK is such a good idea anyway. We’re already looking at a major overhaul of personnel, and if we add in such a radical change of playing style, primarily with young players, it going to take time to develop, and next season will almost certainly be one of “transition”. Can we really afford that?

Also, nothing in football does my head in more than watching crap teams trying to pass it around their own penalty area. Not sure I could handle watching Burnley trying to play like that.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:39 am

scouseclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:26 am
This article does make me wonder whether VK is such a good idea anyway. We’re already looking at a major overhaul of personnel, and if we add in such a radical change of playing style, primarily with young players, it going to take time to develop, and next season will almost certainly be one of “transition”. Can we really afford that?

Also, nothing in football does my head in more than watching crap teams trying to pass it around their own penalty area. Not sure I could handle watching Burnley trying to play like that.
It wouldn't be the old burnley players passing it around, it would be new players who the manager believes can play that way.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:40 am

scouseclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:26 am
This article does make me wonder whether VK is such a good idea anyway. We’re already looking at a major overhaul of personnel, and if we add in such a radical change of playing style, primarily with young players, it going to take time to develop, and next season will almost certainly be one of “transition”. Can we really afford that?

Also, nothing in football does my head in more than watching crap teams trying to pass it around their own penalty area. Not sure I could handle watching Burnley trying to play like that.
It didn't take Owen Coyle too long to change the style for the better.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Jamesy » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:17 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:43 am
I’ve been thinking about it and I reckon that it would be more apt if Jamesy, changed his username to Foster.

We are doomed I tell ya, doomed.
Inebriated? :lol:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claretandy » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:01 pm

Shaun Maloney, who has been linked with the assistant managers job, has turned down the managers job at Dundee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61681027

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Shaun Maloney

Post by Bazer1882 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:05 pm

The relegated club have failed to reach an agreement with the former Hibernian boss.

There are rumours he could join up with Vincent Kompany should the Belgian be appointed new Burnley manager.

Full story ⤵️ #BBCFootball

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Re: Shaun Maloney

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:09 pm

You'd have to trawl back a fair bit but this was mentioned a few days ago.
Bit of a mixed response if I recall.

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Re: Shaun Maloney

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:23 pm

Last Friday it got the first mention - I’ll merge this with the main thread.
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Re: Shaun Maloney

Post by Zom Zom » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:38 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:09 pm
You'd have to trawl back a fair bit but this was mentioned a few days ago.
Bit of a mixed response if I recall.
I guess with the way it has been reported, there's still some 'meat on the bones' regarding Kompany taking over.
It's gone on long enough.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:40 pm

Could the Maloney thing be as a result of it being unlikely to get a work permit for his Anderlecht assistant?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Gaia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:41 pm

https://twitter.com/mauricefereira/stat ... 9HSaw&s=19
🚨Sources confirm that Besiktas is in advanced talks with Burnley for Dutch striker Wout Weghorst. One-year loan deal is on the table, but the Turkish club is pushing for an option-to-buy. Weghorst and Besiktas are already in agreement, matter of time for clubs to agree terms! https://t.co/u1jL3LOWnq

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:43 pm

Gaia wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:41 pm
https://twitter.com/mauricefereira/stat ... 9HSaw&s=19
🚨Sources confirm that Besiktas is in advanced talks with Burnley for Dutch striker Wout Weghorst. One-year loan deal is on the table, but the Turkish club is pushing for an option-to-buy. Weghorst and Besiktas are already in agreement, matter of time for clubs to agree terms! https://t.co/u1jL3LOWnq
That’s been discussed a fair bit in the Wout Weghorst thread.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:06 pm

will we reach 100 pages before the new manager is announced?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:10 pm

Is this Malony stuff a bit of a worry? Don’t think he was long at Belgium or Hibs?

Read somewhere some of the other coaches in Kompany’s staff at Anderlecht have a very good pedigree at developing young players though.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:16 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:40 am
It didn't take Owen Coyle too long to change the style for the better.
True! but he wasn't presiding over a huge revamp, which any incoming manager will have to oversee.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Roger1960 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:45 pm

Another week passes with no manager , the fixtures will soon be released , pre season will soon be starting , out of contract players are peeling off one by one ,it’s 2 weeks since thE end of the season and 8 weeks since SD was sacked . This smacks of one thing amateurs out of their depth running a club , indeed any business of this size. To have no manager lined up or in the frame when SD was sacked ok maybe 2 to cover which division we were going to be in , to allow so many players to run their contracts down and now to drag on the VK will he won’t he saga for so long gives me zero faith they have a scooby about what they are doing . We may end up feeling ourselves lucky just to stay in the championship if thIs continues

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:59 pm

Roger1960 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:45 pm
Another week passes with no manager , the fixtures will soon be released , pre season will soon be starting , out of contract players are peeling off one by one ,it’s 2 weeks since thE end of the season and 8 weeks since SD was sacked . This smacks of one thing amateurs out of their depth running a club , indeed any business of this size. To have no manager lined up or in the frame when SD was sacked ok maybe 2 to cover which division we were going to be in , to allow so many players to run their contracts down and now to drag on the VK will he won’t he saga for so long gives me zero faith they have a scooby about what they are doing . We may end up feeling ourselves lucky just to stay in the championship if thIs continues
That’s the spirit.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:03 pm

It’s a fair observation though…

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:08 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:03 pm
It’s a fair observation though…
I'd expect to see a lot more in the media (ie more than nothing at all) if it was going south

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:09 pm

I agree , sadly a fair observation.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:08 pm
I'd expect to see a lot more in the media (ie more than nothing at all) if it was going south
So you expect to be updated by the media , not the club if it was going south , how ironic 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:13 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:12 pm
So you expect to be updated by the media , not the club if it whas going south , how ironic 🤷‍♂️
If it was going badly, yes

Would you expect to be updated by the club rather than people whose job it actually is to find out stuff like this?

Beyond weird some of you

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:17 pm

Can't argue with that opinion I'm afraid, and ALK have a lot of tough decisions to make in the coming weeks, and for the sake of BFC we'd better hope they call them correctly, as the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

I'm willing to give them a chance, and in reality we don't have a choice, but the longer this impasse goes on, the more the doubts will grow as to the future direction of the club.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:21 pm

There isn't anything to suggest that its not Kompany

Doesn't mean he can't change his mind, but until there is something concrete to worry about it, then I refuse to worry about it

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:24 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:21 pm
There isn't anything to suggest that its not Kompany

Doesn't mean he can't change his mind, but until there is something concrete to worry about it, then I refuse to worry about it
At what point do you start worrying though Lancaster? Just over two weeks till pre season starts we have no manager, no captain, 12 fit first teamers, and we are constantly in the press for our poor financial position. I appreciate that people want to give Pace time (I really do), I just don’t understand how people can be so comfortable with the position we are in.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:24 pm
At what point do you start worrying though Lancaster? Just over two weeks till pre season starts we have no manager, no captain, 12 fit first teamers, and we are constantly in the press for our poor financial position. I appreciate that people want to give Pace time (I really do), I just don’t understand how people can be so comfortable with the position we are in.
When I hear some concrete information that changes what was said a week last Thursday

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:27 pm
When I hear some concrete information that changes what was said a week last Thursday
I agree.... Had it fallen through it would be all over the media
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:45 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:24 pm
At what point do you start worrying though Lancaster? Just over two weeks till pre season starts we have no manager, no captain, 12 fit first teamers, and we are constantly in the press for our poor financial position. I appreciate that people want to give Pace time (I really do), I just don’t understand how people can be so comfortable with the position we are in.
Everything is currently pointing to Kompany. Very, very reliable sources have reported he’s in talks including Romano, Schira, etc. The local journalists and BBC all reporting that the delay is work permit. Nobody has changed their position or given any reason to worry just yet.

Then today you have Maloney dropping out of the Dundee race and reports in Germany that he he turned down Borrussia’s offer because he wants to manage Burnley. Pretty good day in all.

Will believe it when I see him holding a scarf but to be honest it’s not like we don’t have options; Jackson did a fair job & I wouldn’t be completely against him preparing the players pre-season.

As for “no captain” that’s assuming you believe recent reports. They’re not necessarily true until confirmed but I’m sure Kompany (or any other manager) will be able to appoint another captain. They come and go at every club.

Not sure where you get your 12 fit players from either, given the club haven’t announced a retained list. But either way I’m sure the club are working on signings. Nearly two months until the season starts.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:46 pm

anyone who thinks the club is genuinely doing nothing is out of their depth

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:50 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:45 pm
Everything is currently pointing to Kompany. Very, very reliable sources have reported he’s in talks including Romano, Schira, etc. The local journalists and BBC all reporting that the delay is work permit. Nobody has changed their position or given any reason to worry just yet.

Then today you have Maloney dropping out of the Dundee race and reports in Germany that he he turned down Borrussia’s offer because he wants to manage Burnley. Pretty good day in all.

Will believe it when I see him holding a scarf but to be honest it’s not like we don’t have options; Jackson did a fair job & I wouldn’t be completely against him preparing the players pre-season.

As for “no captain” that’s assuming you believe recent reports. They’re not necessarily true until confirmed but I’m sure Kompany (or any other manager) will be able to appoint another captain. They come and go at every club.

Not sure where you get your 12 fit players from either, given the club haven’t announced a retained list. But either way I’m sure the club are working on signings. Nearly two months until the season starts.
Yep but as of right now Kompany isn’t in charge.

12 fit players based on who we know is definitely going to be here. Again we have no idea because the club doesn’t communicate.

Yep captains come and go, who can we see taking over from Mee at the moment? Taylor?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:50 pm
Yep but as of right now Kompany isn’t in charge.
so because he's not been officially announced you think the club aren't doing things with him and for him for when he does get his work permit (which he will) and is officially announced ? Ok

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:53 pm
so because he's not been officially announced you think the club aren't doing things with him and for him for when he does get his work permit (which he will) and is officially announced ? Ok
If we are at that position then yes I suspect they are.

But none of us know we are.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:50 pm
Yep but as of right now Kompany isn’t in charge.

12 fit players based on who we know is definitely going to be here. Again we have no idea because the club doesn’t communicate.

Yep captains come and go, who can we see taking over from Mee at the moment? Taylor?
Dyche was sacked in April, we’ve managed without a manager since then, so I’m pretty sure we can for another few weeks & confident the likes of Jacko and Jenkins will be taking care of the pre-season arrangements.

Your 12 is therefore worst case scenario of no players being retained. I think several will be & those that don’t will free up huge wages for signings. To keep mentioning 12 fit players is massive glass half empty stuff.

It depends on who we retain. Taylor’s not a bad shout. Collins is a leader, I think, if we can hold on. Brownhill leads by example. JRod knows the club and is a top bloke if we think he’ll play enough. Hennessy a very experienced international. Or maybe just Mee if he stays.

I would like everything done more quickly but it’s not time to flap.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:03 pm

"Dyche was sacked in April, we’ve managed without a manager since then..."
Aoart from being relegated obviously...

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by joey13 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:59 pm
Dyche was sacked in April, we’ve managed without a manager since then, so I’m pretty sure we can for another few weeks & confident the likes of Jacko and Jenkins will be taking care of the pre-season arrangements.

Your 12 is therefore worst case scenario of no players being retained. I think several will be & those that don’t will free up huge wages for signings. To keep mentioning 12 fit players is massive glass half empty stuff.

It depends on who we retain. Taylor’s not a bad shout. Collins is a leader, I think, if we can hold on. Brownhill leads by example. JRod knows the club and is a top bloke if we think he’ll play enough. Hennessy a very experienced international. Or maybe just Mee if he stays.

I would like everything done more quickly but it’s not time to flap.
We’ve managed without a manager, dear me :roll:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:57 pm
If we are at that position then yes I suspect they are.

But none of us know we are.
I would say we are nailed on 100% in that position

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:59 pm
Dyche was sacked in April, we’ve managed without a manager since then, so I’m pretty sure we can for another few weeks & confident the likes of Jacko and Jenkins will be taking care of the pre-season arrangements.

Your 12 is therefore worst case scenario of no players being retained. I think several will be & those that don’t will free up huge wages for signings. To keep mentioning 12 fit players is massive glass half empty stuff.

It depends on who we retain. Taylor’s not a bad shout. Collins is a leader, I think, if we can hold on. Brownhill leads by example. JRod knows the club and is a top bloke if we think he’ll play enough. Hennessy a very experienced international. Or maybe just Mee if he stays.

I would like everything done more quickly but it’s not time to flap.
I genuinely believe that your just looking for the smallest positives possible. If jacko is in charge for pre season that is not something to be happy about.

Again I was stating our situation as we know it (IE that everyone out of contract will not be retained).

Depends how you view the situation but we are rapidly running out of time to build a squad capable of achieving promotion.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:10 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm
I would say we are nailed on 100% in that position
I appreciate the common theory is that Kompany is just a matter of time but until its done I think its best to work on the details we know for certain.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:10 pm
I appreciate the common theory is that Kompany is just a matter of time but until its done I think its best to work on the details we know for certain.
it's better to just let the club get on with it without everyone having a meltdown in the meantime. People crossing imaginary bridges that don't exist is mind boggling to me
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by rob63 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:18 pm

For the people who are getting nervy about work permits for Kompany & his staff I have just 2 words to say......Craig Bellamy!

Personally, I'm willing to wait a fortnight or so for work permits if it keeps the non-work-permit-needing Bellendamy away from the club! We don't need any more conflict just now.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Culmclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:19 pm

Fill in the missing name: John Benson, Tommy Cavanagh, ………….

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:19 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:10 pm
I appreciate the common theory is that Kompany is just a matter of time but until its done I think its best to work on the details we know for certain.
JFW

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:19 pm

The speedy work done by the owners in finding a new manager in VK (if thats correct), will soon be undone if the appointment does not progress and get confirmed shortly ie pre season, start of new season , OOC's, reinforcements, appointment of coaches, managing outgoings. A huge amount of things need to be sorted very soon. A lack of progress will impact our start to the new season , and will seriously affect additional season ticket sales

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NRC » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:31 pm

can someone check with the receptionist at the Rosehill House Hotel to see if they have a booking? Check the name "Even Bigger Vince"

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:38 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:03 pm
"Dyche was sacked in April, we’ve managed without a manager since then..."
Aoart from being relegated obviously...
True. But whether that was Dyche’s fault or Jacko’s is very much debatable.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:43 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm
We’ve managed without a manager, dear me :roll:
Well our previous managers ppg was 0.8 whereas the interim managers was 1.4, so actually an improvement from where were for most of the year. Players seemed much happier too, anecdotally. Haven’t noticed the club implode anyway.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:06 pm
I genuinely believe that your just looking for the smallest positives possible. If jacko is in charge for pre season that is not something to be happy about.
Not at all. I’m certainly not positive about the current situation, just don’t think it’s time for hyperbole or accentuation of the worst case scenarios.

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