Surely if we are close on the boy from Liverpool we can’t be signing Hendry too.
I do think hendry is exactly the type we need however
I think we would need to make a major contribution to anyone taking them.
Maybe it was because he was all set to join Coventry this summer before we stepped in
Comprehensive answer. Thanks. My mistake was thinking that Seraing played elsewhere, Malaysia or somewhere. Lol!CohibaClaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pmI think enough players have shown that if you can excel in Belgian pro league you can make it in the championship (Cullen, Berge, Dennis) some even in the PL like Trossard, Origi, Benteke. Just a few examples but there are many. Some players need settling in, some hit the ground running. Anyway as to Mikautadze, one of the best strikers I have seen the last 2 seasons on Belgian pro league level. He carried that Seraing team on his own.
That’s sarong. Beckham could play in a sarong for Seraing.
As we are paying their wages can we force them to go out on loan?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:46 pmLong and Lowton are rumoured to still be on 20-25k following relegation. For that kind of money I can’t see anyone picking them up.
Why would they? See out this last year on high wages. Then get a final contract somewhere else and a nice little signing on fee for being free transfer.Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:27 pmLowton and Long are in the last year of their contracts. Maybe they would both be willing to sign a 3 year contract on less money elsewhere and play football than just see their contracts out at Burnley before being released?
Need to add JBG to this list.Cant see him getting a look in with Benson and Vithino , can't see him getting a look in. Even Costelloe now ahead of himJakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:27 pmLowton and Long are in the last year of their contracts. Maybe they would both be willing to sign a 3 year contract on less money elsewhere and play football than just see their contracts out at Burnley before being released?
Your such a party pooper..Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:33 pmWhy would they? See out this last year on high wages. Then get a final contract somewhere else and a nice little signing on fee for being free transfer.
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:27 pmLowton and Long are in the last year of their contracts. Maybe they would both be willing to sign a 3 year contract on less money elsewhere and play football than just see their contracts out at Burnley before being released?
I am not so sure-if they have not played first team football for 12 months , they are unlikely to be wanted by any Championship or League 1 side, whether on a free or not, and they will be a year olderNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:33 pmWhy would they? See out this last year on high wages. Then get a final contract somewhere else and a nice little signing on fee for being free transfer.
Agreed, he always volunteers to wash the bibs after training
I just think about it if I was in there situation.
Given that Kompany may be signing another 3 or 4, they might not even have to sit on the bench for their 1 million quidNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:51 pmI just think about it if I was in there situation.
Coming towards the end of my playing career there’s no way I would turn down the best part of million quid for 9 months sitting on the bench.
For the reasons in the post you literally quoted??Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:33 pmWhy would they? See out this last year on high wages. Then get a final contract somewhere else and a nice little signing on fee for being free transfer.
Been OK, hardly excellent.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:43 pmLowton has been excellent for us, I can't see him getting game time though. His goal at Palace was one of the highlights of our stay in the PL
Day & night.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:12 pmBeen OK, hardly excellent.
Trippier was excellent, there is a difference.
Firstly, just to say I think Lowton and Long have been fabulous servants to this club and complete professionals -if they want to sit out this year and take the money, they’d be well within their rights to do so. I also think both could play a part in this season were they to stay.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:51 pmI just think about it if I was in there situation.
Coming towards the end of my playing career there’s no way I would turn down the best part of million quid for 9 months sitting on the bench.
We had 6 consecutive seasons in the PL - there has to be some credit to be given to someone. Lowton deserves his share.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:43 pmWe are way to over hyped when it comes to players and how good they have been. This is the reason the squad got sale, Lowton hasn’t been good enough for 2 years now to be first choice, clubs get rid of players who have been good it’s how you progress
Trippier was supreme which is far beyond excellentboatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:12 pmBeen OK, hardly excellent.
Trippier was excellent, there is a difference.
You could be right but Tbf the links to West Brom have been nothing more than Fan rumours. There’s nothing concrete out there about either of them being offered anything.NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 pmFirstly, just to say I think Lowton and Long have been fabulous servants to this club and complete professionals -if they want to sit out this year and take the money, they’d be well within their rights to do so. I also think both could play a part in this season were they to stay.
I think it depends what they want from their careers now.
Lowton I sense likes and wants to play. Rumours are that WBA are interested. They’re a big club, big following, good stadium, well known manager. If he could get £15k - £20k pw there but secure a 2 year contract, maybe an option for a third, I reckon he’d take it in an instant. They’ll also be right up there having made some experienced signings, so could possibly secure promotion bonus’ and wage increases in that event.
Long I think is going to have more problems finding someone to pay anywhere near what he’s (allegedly) on. That’s assuming there’s no relegation clause making it much lower, etc. But with six PL games last season I think he’s going to stand a much better chance of finding a Championship club this year than he would following a season of few games next year. Also younger at 31 so could still attract a 3/4 year deal. He’s not played much football so it’s now or never for him. I do sense he’d be less likely to take a pay cut to find it than Lowts though, but maybe that’s unfair.
He’s on around 70k a week, less than zero% chanceNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:09 pmWest Ham willing to listen to offers for Benrahma.
Now that would be some signing but would the player be willing to drop down?
I'd say we have a 0% chance of that happening.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:09 pmWest Ham willing to listen to offers for Benrahma.
Now that would be some signing but would the player be willing to drop down?
You can certainly speak for yourself BB but this is about valuing his contribution. "Lowton hasn’t been good enough for 2 years now" is an under-valuation in my opinion.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:00 pmI don't think posters (myself included) are ignoring his contribution
Pretty sure those rumours don't make any sense. Are they suggesting that Kevin Long and Matt Lowton had contracts that didn't include relegation clauses? Or are they suggesting that they were both on £40k a week wages in the Premier League?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:46 pmLong and Lowton are rumoured to still be on 20-25k following relegation. For that kind of money I can’t see anyone picking them up.
And yet when Lowton started we very rarely conceded down his side pitch. Average at best going forward but an excellent defender, which is his prime job.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:43 pmWe are way to over hyped when it comes to players and how good they have been. This is the reason the squad got sale, Lowton hasn’t been good enough for 2 years now to be first choice, clubs get rid of players who have been good it’s how you progress
Would that surprise you?Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:21 pmPretty sure those rumours don't make any sense. Are they suggesting that Kevin Long and Matt Lowton had contracts that didn't include relegation clauses? Or are they suggesting that they were both on £40k a week wages in the Premier League?
Because, as other have eluded to, they might prefer to resolve their next career move whilst they can. They might not be as desirable at the end of the season or be able to to command as higher wage or get as longer contract as they might be offered now. It’s all conjecture on my part obviously but rather than sitting on their backside they might want some long term security and even show some professional pride.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:33 pmWhy would they? See out this last year on high wages. Then get a final contract somewhere else and a nice little signing on fee for being free transfer.
Nobody is saying he doesn’t deserve credit but if he’s now not good enough to play then you move him on, it’s just part of football can’t be over sentimental, vokes was one my favourite strikers over last 10 years but I wouldn’t have him anywhere near squad now just because he did good for us
We still conceded goals from his side of the pitch, but this isn’t about that, I think he has been good for us but my sole point is just because he has been good for us doesn’t mean that should justify him staying around if he doesn’t fit into the new systemTricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:28 pmAnd yet when Lowton started we very rarely conceded down his side pitch. Average at best going forward but an excellent defender, which is his prime job.
I agree we moved Vokes on at the right time. I'm not overly sentimental but nor am I revisionist. "Lowton hasn’t been good enough for 2 years now" is not about the here and now - it's a poor assessment...in my opinion.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:12 pmNobody is saying he doesn’t deserve credit but if he’s now not good enough to play then you move him on, it’s just part of football can’t be over sentimental, vokes was one my favourite strikers over last 10 years but I wouldn’t have him anywhere near squad now just because he did good for us
The latterPaul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:21 pmPretty sure those rumours don't make any sense. Are they suggesting that Kevin Long and Matt Lowton had contracts that didn't include relegation clauses? Or are they suggesting that they were both on £40k a week wages in the Premier League?
Here’s a rumor: