Last seasons relegation and Kompany
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Last seasons relegation and Kompany
Initially when we were relegated I thought we may struggle to attract Kompany to the club… however looking at it now, is it possible Kompany would have chosen to manage us in this scenario over coming in as a premier league manager, given the choice?
We all know he’s pretty much on Premier league money as a manager. Relegation gave us the opportunity to rebuild and we are definitely a big hitter financially in the championship. It also gave Kompany an opportunity to leverage his contacts in the Belgium league to bring in players who work in his system… would both the transformation of style and the influx of young creative players have worked for us in the premier league? Kompany has undoubtably put himself on a lot of radars as a top, upcoming manager.
The question is now, if we do get promoted, will Kompany back himself to take us on to the next step and get us back established in the premier league… or will the immediate appeal of an established mid table premier league team with superior finances (and the offers will surely come) prove too much for him? Career wise, as much as we wouldn’t want it to happen, would that make the most sense? He’s clearly a born winner and it would be no surprise if ultimately he sees himself as a potential successor to Pep.
Don’t worry, before anyone says it, I am enjoying it whilst he’s here
We all know he’s pretty much on Premier league money as a manager. Relegation gave us the opportunity to rebuild and we are definitely a big hitter financially in the championship. It also gave Kompany an opportunity to leverage his contacts in the Belgium league to bring in players who work in his system… would both the transformation of style and the influx of young creative players have worked for us in the premier league? Kompany has undoubtably put himself on a lot of radars as a top, upcoming manager.
The question is now, if we do get promoted, will Kompany back himself to take us on to the next step and get us back established in the premier league… or will the immediate appeal of an established mid table premier league team with superior finances (and the offers will surely come) prove too much for him? Career wise, as much as we wouldn’t want it to happen, would that make the most sense? He’s clearly a born winner and it would be no surprise if ultimately he sees himself as a potential successor to Pep.
Don’t worry, before anyone says it, I am enjoying it whilst he’s here
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
He's off to Belgium
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Kompany and his contracted players he signed all come with a 4 year deal. Yes he could go sooner, but he doesn't seem the type of guy to abandon his project at The Turf. Like Pep...he will honour his contract.
He is young, and there will be big clubs calling in the future, but for now he's staying.
He is young, and there will be big clubs calling in the future, but for now he's staying.
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I think a big chunk of his decision making was down to proximity to family home which I heard was in Manchester I think.
We were a club that was looking to undergo change both on the playing front and financially. VK's business knowledge allowed him to understand the remit and his links to young players from Belgium and City meant he already had the makings of financially astute immediate plan that suited both his and the owners plan.
I think the project is a good one and I think he has executed the first parts of it incredibly well, almost seamlessly. I think he will be invested into the challenge of getting us back up and then making us competitive and exciting in the Premiership. It would tick some real boxes on his resumee
As you have alluded to, he will at some point, want to manage City but I don't think it would be wise to do so just yet if Pep were to stand down soon. Could be too much like when Moyes taking over from Fergie. I can see him being here at least for this season and the next hopefully.
We were a club that was looking to undergo change both on the playing front and financially. VK's business knowledge allowed him to understand the remit and his links to young players from Belgium and City meant he already had the makings of financially astute immediate plan that suited both his and the owners plan.
I think the project is a good one and I think he has executed the first parts of it incredibly well, almost seamlessly. I think he will be invested into the challenge of getting us back up and then making us competitive and exciting in the Premiership. It would tick some real boxes on his resumee
As you have alluded to, he will at some point, want to manage City but I don't think it would be wise to do so just yet if Pep were to stand down soon. Could be too much like when Moyes taking over from Fergie. I can see him being here at least for this season and the next hopefully.
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Serious managers don't do national jobs.
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Am I correct in thinking that VK doesn't yet hold the appropriate coaching licence for the Premier League and that he is working on it?
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I read an article with his father where he mentioned that VK being able to recruit his own players was the key factor in choosing us over the Bundesliga. Huge risk on the part of Pace but it certainly looks like a master stroke at this point. Many mid range premier clubs take a very different approach to recruitment which surely makes it more likely he stays with us if we do make it up.
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Now as it has been said before there are times when you get offered a job of your dreams and if you don't take it you may never get that chance again .
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VK will have known this post would be coming available post World Cup before he took this job, no chance he’s a lying snake like that Beale who’s just frauded QPR for Rangers.
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The below is translated from an interview with Pierre Kompany, Vincent's Dad.claretbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:12 pmI read an article with his father where he mentioned that VK being able to recruit his own players was the key factor in choosing us over the Bundesliga. Huge risk on the part of Pace but it certainly looks like a master stroke at this point. Many mid range premier clubs take a very different approach to recruitment which surely makes it more likely he stays with us if we do make it up.
"Vincent is more respected in England than in Belgium?
“Vincent, in England, is considered otherwise. I recently went to see him at his new club where things are going very well. The difference is that in England he is a coach and manager… which he asked Anderlecht and the club did not want. He is responsible for what he does with this function. »"
Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
He was very loyal as a player
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
Easy to be loyal when you are playing at an elite club.
General consensus seems to be that he will see the ‘project’ here lasting a few seasons.
Hope that is the case.
Just if you were plotting a career path for him, objectively you may question whether he’d want to risk a season in the premier league with us if his stock was sky high at the end of this season?
As much as I am sure he is committed to doing the best job he can, like anyone, he will always do what is best for him/his family/his career.
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Perhaps he wouldn't see it as such a big risk.Indecisive wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:59 pmEasy to be loyal when you are playing at an elite club.
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Just if you were plotting a career path for him, objectively you may question whether he’d want to risk a season in the premier league with us if his stock was sky high at the end of this season?
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Pretty sure he mention in one interview that his wife is from the north west of England, and so the stars kind of aligned with the opportunity at Burnley.
Perhaps she was in his ear about coming back to England? If so I can’t see her wanting to leave again so soon?
Perhaps she was in his ear about coming back to England? If so I can’t see her wanting to leave again so soon?
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
There's probably only one job of his dreams.
And it's not the Belgium job.
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
Got our fanbase obsessed with everything our ex-manager does and now they’re trying to link our current manager with another job. I love this board sometimes.dougcollins wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:35 pmThere's probably only one job of his dreams.
And it's not the Belgium job.
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The opposite really, I think he's a good way off taking that job.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:52 pmGot our fanbase obsessed with everything our ex-manager does and now they’re trying to link our current manager with another job. I love this board sometimes.
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I know you’re not suggesting it, a lot of people are though.dougcollins wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:54 pmThe opposite really, I think he's a good way off taking that job.
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His missus is from the North West (of England) and would be a bit naked if she has to move back to Belgium
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
Vincent Kompany has faith in his ability, he wouldn't see PL football next season as a risk, more likely an opportunity.
And TBH if we go up this year and he is backed to replace our loan signings as permanent we could be OK
And TBH if we go up this year and he is backed to replace our loan signings as permanent we could be OK
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Why would she take her clothes off?Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:57 pmHis missus is from the North West (of England) and would be a bit naked if she has to move back to Belgium
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Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:57 pmHis missus is from the North West (of England) and would be a bit naked if she has to move back to Belgium
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I am looking forward to seeing how we get on against Man United in the cup with our new system, obviously a cup game and maybe not a full strength united but will be interesting to see how it could look next season should we go up
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I'm pretty sure that he mentioned in an interview that the location wasn't particularly important to the decision.Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:57 pmHis missus is from the North West (of England) and would be a bit naked if she has to move back to Belgium
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I’d say it will have almost zero reflection on next season.LawsCanalJump wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:40 pmI am looking forward to seeing how we get on against Man United in the cup with our new system, obviously a cup game and maybe not a full strength united but will be interesting to see how it could look next season should we go up
Firstly we’ll probably have half a new team again with improvements and secondly United will have most of their team likely missing.
Will be nice to see us ping it around OT though!
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We have a decent record in recent years at Old Trafford (thanks to Sean Dyche for that), it would be great to get a result against Man U's reserves ...
presuming that's what they will do, of course
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So not the players...just Dycheboatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:05 pmWe have a decent record in recent years at Old Trafford (thanks to Sean Dyche for that), it would be great to get a result against Man U's reserves ...
presuming that's what they will do, of course
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
Just give the man some credit.
And don't try to pick arguments that aren't really worth the effort.
Obviously the players did it on the pitch.
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I have never not given him credit, it was the most amazing journey we had, but to just give him credit for such wins is ridiculousboatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:48 pmJust give the man some credit.
And don't try to pick arguments that aren't really worth the effort.
Obviously the players did it on the pitch.
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Oh, I did that then? OK.Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:53 pmI have never not given him credit, it was the most amazing journey we had, but to just give him credit for such wins is ridiculous
Like I said, just cut out the argumentative stuff, it has no point.
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Weren't the same things being said about "*The previous incumbent" at BFC about every job that came upMilltown1882 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:55 pmI know you’re not suggesting it, a lot of people are though.
*won't say his name as quite a few on here get a bit precious
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Pep won't be standing down for at least two years yet so no worry there. I don't see VK taking any other job in the meantime.
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
We are now a selling club conveyor belt (I don’t see that as a bad thing) and think we’d be in no worse a position had we sold a few of our players over the last 24 months, earlier than this summer.
Most players are on four years
If we’re promoted, I think we’ll sell and upgrade a few of those players and look to cash in after two to three years on the rest.
Two or three players won’t get close to year four, even if we’re doing well.
What’s important is that we’re already scouting our next Zaroury and Benson!
Most players are on four years
If we’re promoted, I think we’ll sell and upgrade a few of those players and look to cash in after two to three years on the rest.
Two or three players won’t get close to year four, even if we’re doing well.
What’s important is that we’re already scouting our next Zaroury and Benson!
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Re: Last seasons relegation and Kompany
That was the point I was making, though it was misconstrued.MancunianClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:07 amPep won't be standing down for at least two years yet so no worry there. I don't see VK taking any other job in the meantime.
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Kompany is a sensible very smart guy, no chance he'll jump ship too soon and leave his stock in the gutter.
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Maybe not, but expectations have grown so everyone expects him to be successful this season by getting promotion to the premier
and thats not just us Burnley fans
and thats not just us Burnley fans
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Yes if he's a failure because he jumped too soon, he'd be back to square one.Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:52 pmIf Kompany left us in the summer to go to Bayern Munich, would his stock go down ?